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"Perhaps best debut album of 1964?"
Manfred Mann`s debut, "The Five Faces of Mann"; - more polished, better musicians.
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The Cars first album is loaded with songs that were played on the radio...
That's a good one. Even when it was brand new, it sounded like a greatest hits album.
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memphiscats
Excitable Boy - Warren Zevon (I realize he released an album in 1969 but this was his first release on a major label.)
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mitchflorida1
I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.
Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.
I respectfully beg to disagree that "The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do." If that's true, why would anyone ever make more than one? Maybe it needs to feel like everything's been said and done at the time of its release - a perfect statement of everything the band is at that time - but something that they will never ever be able to improve on? Definitely not.
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mitchflorida1
I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.
Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.
I respectfully beg to disagree that "The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do." If that's true, why would anyone ever make more than one? Maybe it needs to feel like everything's been said and done at the time of its release - a perfect statement of everything the band is at that time - but something that they will never ever be able to improve on? Definitely not.
Okay, how about this. A truly great first album is an album that is in and of itself a masterpiece, and with hindsight can also be seen as pointing the way towards even greater things to come. Led Zeppelin I, for example.
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mitchflorida1
I think the best debut albums were by the Doors and Boston.
Boston's debut album "said" everything they had to say. That's true to a lesser degree with Hendrix and the Doors. It's really not true at all with the Stones.
I respectfully beg to disagree that "The mark of a truly great first album is that it's as good or better than anything else the artist would ever go on to do." If that's true, why would anyone ever make more than one? Maybe it needs to feel like everything's been said and done at the time of its release - a perfect statement of everything the band is at that time - but something that they will never ever be able to improve on? Definitely not.
Okay, how about this. A truly great first album is an album that is in and of itself a masterpiece, and with hindsight can also be seen as pointing the way towards even greater things to come. Led Zeppelin I, for example.
That's a great definition, tatters: although there are a surprisinly large number of bands that never did surpass their debut album, or even their debut single! Or maybe it's not such a surprise: like books, many people have one good one in them, but more than one is harder, and more than one that isn't just more of the same is harder still. The mark of a truly great band is that they can and do improve on their first efforts, whether those were masterpieces or not.