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Stoneage
I think Dino was honest. I don't think he cared much about the Stones or, probably, any other pop or rock group. Remember, he was an old school crooner. And I don't think the Stones had any high regards for crooners either...
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Doxa
Anyway, that was then, now is now. The Stones of late yaers is a Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin of today's world of entertainment. Especially Keith Richards with his manners and speaks - a drink in hand, posing drunk,and badmothing the acts he doesn't grasp - resembles funnily much more Dean Martin of The Hollywood Palace Show" than "old blues man" a'la Muddy Waters. What goes around, comes around, etc....
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Doxa
Anyway, that was then, now is now. The Stones of late yaers is a Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin of today's world of entertainment. Especially Keith Richards with his manners and speaks - a drink in hand, posing drunk,and badmothing the acts he doesn't grasp - resembles funnily much more Dean Martin of The Hollywood Palace Show" than "old blues man" a'la Muddy Waters. What goes around, comes around, etc....
- Doxa
Right you are, Doxa. Ironic, isn't it?
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Anyway, that was then, now is now. The Stones of late yaers is a Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin of today's world of entertainment. Especially Keith Richards with his manners and speaks - a drink in hand, posing drunk,and badmothing the acts he doesn't grasp - resembles funnily much more Dean Martin of The Hollywood Palace Show" than "old blues man" a'la Muddy Waters. What goes around, comes around, etc....
- Doxa
Right you are, Doxa. Ironic, isn't it?
It is. But true as well. I always found a bit hypocratic Keith's romantic analogies to great old blues men into whom he wants to project himself. The fact that he was once inspired of blues music, and made a pop career and a damn big name of himself in show business to an extent out of it, wouldn't make him any real blues player. I find it funny that judging from the base of Sumlin gig he is now an "old blues man" he always wanted to be. Bullocks. He is as far from Muddy Waters or Howlin Wolf today than he was in 1964. I liked Keith's idiosyncratic take on blues in Sumlin gig, but that was great because it was Keith Richards - that is: taking his history, experience as a Rolling Stone, rock and roll legend - doing it, sounding so vulnerable, skills reduced, broken, down to earth, heartful, a man way past his prime. But it wasn't anything spectacular in any terms of blues. He is a "real blues man" only in his talks and the fantasy of some Rolling Stones fans. Playing a few blues tunes - and seemingly having lost your skills - doesn't make you a blues man, nor playing few reggae songs and smoking damn many joints with the rastamen, a reggae man, no matter how much you admire "authenticity". But outside the music, as far as his public role as a celebrate goes - as his actual place in the show business - is actually very close to people like Dean Martin than ever to people like Muddy Waters. In this way I appraciate much more Mick Jagger for never trying to pretend being something he obviously is not.
- Doxa
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Stoneage
That would have been something though, tf: A Dino and Mick duet! Imagine that. I wonder if they would have choosed "That´s Amore" or "Satisfaction"?
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Doxa
Anyway, that was then, now is now. The Stones of late yaers is a Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin of today's world of entertainment. Especially Keith Richards with his manners and speaks - a drink in hand, posing drunk,and badmothing the acts he doesn't grasp - resembles funnily much more Dean Martin of The Hollywood Palace Show" than "old blues man" a'la Muddy Waters. What goes around, comes around, etc....
- Doxa
Right you are, Doxa. Ironic, isn't it?
It is. But true as well. I always found a bit hypocratic Keith's romantic analogies to great old blues men into whom he wants to project himself. The fact that he was once inspired of blues music, and made a pop career and a damn big name of himself in show business to an extent out of it, wouldn't make him any real blues player. I find it funny that judging from the base of Sumlin gig he is now an "old blues man" he always wanted to be. Bullocks. He is as far from Muddy Waters or Howlin Wolf today than he was in 1964. I liked Keith's idiosyncratic take on blues in Sumlin gig, but that was great because it was Keith Richards - that is: taking his history, experience as a Rolling Stone, rock and roll legend - doing it, sounding so vulnerable, skills reduced, broken, down to earth, heartful, a man way past his prime. But it wasn't anything spectacular in any terms of blues. He is a "real blues man" only in his talks and the fantasy of some Rolling Stones fans. Playing a few blues tunes - and seemingly having lost your skills - doesn't make you a blues man, nor playing few reggae songs and smoking damn many joints with the rastamen, a reggae man, no matter how much you admire "authenticity". But outside the music, as far as his public role as a celebrate goes - as his actual place in the show business - is actually very close to people like Dean Martin than ever to people like Muddy Waters. In this way I appraciate much more Mick Jagger for never trying to pretend being something he obviously is not.
- Doxa
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Doxa
Anyway, that was then, now is now. The Stones of late yaers is a Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin of today's world of entertainment. Especially Keith Richards with his manners and speaks - a drink in hand, posing drunk,and badmothing the acts he doesn't grasp - resembles funnily much more Dean Martin of The Hollywood Palace Show" than "old blues man" a'la Muddy Waters. What goes around, comes around, etc....
- Doxa
Right you are, Doxa. Ironic, isn't it?
It is. But true as well. I always found a bit hypocratic Keith's romantic analogies to great old blues men into whom he wants to project himself. The fact that he was once inspired of blues music, and made a pop career and a damn big name of himself in show business to an extent out of it, wouldn't make him any real blues player. I find it funny that judging from the base of Sumlin gig he is now an "old blues man" he always wanted to be. Bullocks. He is as far from Muddy Waters or Howlin Wolf today than he was in 1964. I liked Keith's idiosyncratic take on blues in Sumlin gig, but that was great because it was Keith Richards - that is: taking his history, experience as a Rolling Stone, rock and roll legend - doing it, sounding so vulnerable, skills reduced, broken, down to earth, heartful, a man way past his prime. But it wasn't anything spectacular in any terms of blues. He is a "real blues man" only in his talks and the fantasy of some Rolling Stones fans. Playing a few blues tunes - and seemingly having lost your skills - doesn't make you a blues man, nor playing few reggae songs and smoking damn many joints with the rastamen, a reggae man, no matter how much you admire "authenticity". But outside the music, as far as his public role as a celebrate goes - as his actual place in the show business - is actually very close to people like Dean Martin than ever to people like Muddy Waters. In this way I appraciate much more Mick Jagger for never trying to pretend being something he obviously is not.
- Doxa
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mitchflorida1
During the show, Dino even spread the rumor that the Stones had challenged the Beatles to a hair-pulling contest. I don't know if it was true, but that was what Dean Martin claimed.