The Methotrexate tour.

"A top concert-business source confirms the reservations over Richards’ condition and suggests that it is more likely that the band will avoid traveling in favor of camping out in major cities for multinight runs in arenas, similar to Prince's recent stands in New York and Los Angeles".

Not trying to be a wise guy, but I remember proposing this idea about a year ago on this forum. Of course I was "gunned down" by some of the regulars here.

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Mathijs
Sure Richards' health will only get better with age...And what will Wyman be in 2013? 77?

Mathijs

Agree with Mathijs! Sure, there *might* be a benefit for extending Keith more time, but the law of diminishing returns probably applies here. Head/Brain injury and arthritis are not Keith's only health issues.

Time is NOT on their side.

Charlie has already had throat cancer, Taylor has been hospitalized, Wood is probably setting records on Sobriety, but he has long odds in front him, longer every day.

Well, more power to them of course. They've proven long distance runners even if they never play another show. Just have to wait to see what happens. But very glad they've seemingly decided to record more music. That's good news.

So it´s out now: Concerning the touring, it´s over. Keith´s (bad) shape
is the reason to postpone a tour instead of using the ´50´ as a chance to
sell tickets when the media attention is the highest. The public will
celebrate their 50th THIS year. But the Stones will say: No, it´s next year?
Haha.

Hmmm, I have always been very optimistic about the possible tour. And now we have an article, that is supposed to sound optimistic and I am not an optimist any more.

The article says that Keith's health is the reason...as other pointed out, that's not likely to improve dramaticaly with age. They write that they are considering residencies in bigger cities, which sounds reasonable, but I seriously doubt that they have just started to talk about it now. I think that the anniversary could be either 2012 or 2013, that doesn't matter, but because of the age of the band members (Wyman!?), there is really no reason to wait and I am sure that all the possibilities of a 2012 tour have benn considered. They are probably not able to do it and if it is so, I doubt they will be the next year. It might help if they scaled the whole thing down, as a lot of us would want so much, but I don't think The Stones are actually capable of it after being a "mega" thing for the last 20 years. I would be happy if I was wrong, but I really can't see a bright future as far as the tour is concerned.

Yeap, it is nice, that Keith mentiones Charlie, that he talks about Bill and all those things, but I just feel that the only reason is that he doesn't want to clearly say "It's over, I can't do it any more". Don't get me wrong, I think it is perfectly alrigth, Keith and The Stones have done more than we could have wished for and they deserve to rest if they choose to, I was just hoping to see them one more time, which I don't believe is gonna happen now.

Anyway, I will see Charlie in two weeks, what more could I ask for?



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duke richardson
So Keith can go ahead and do a new Winos album

Really, what has been to stop him since the last one they did?

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Stoneage
"A top concert-business source confirms the reservations over Richards’ condition and suggests that it is more likely that the band will avoid traveling in favor of camping out in major cities for multinight runs in arenas, similar to Prince's recent stands in New York and Los Angeles".

Not trying to be a wise guy, but I remember proposing this idea about a year ago on this forum. Of course I was "gunned down" by some of the regulars here.

There were a number of us that suggested this, myself included though I may have suggested 5-6 cities between U.S. and Europe. I still think it makes sense. And maybe make a couple of the shows a pay-per-view since obviously not everyone is going to make it to the actual shows.

Now ban these ridiculous 2012 tour threads ans ALL tour threads till at least October

If Keith can´t play this year, he can´t play next year.
Let´s enjoy the 50 with some releases and some parties.
And that will be it.

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The GR
Now ban these ridiculous 2012 tour threads ans ALL tour threads till at least October

But can mickscarey continue with the "done deal"?

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Stoneage
"A top concert-business source confirms the reservations over Richards’ condition and suggests that it is more likely that the band will avoid traveling in favor of camping out in major cities for multinight runs in arenas, similar to Prince's recent stands in New York and Los Angeles".

Not trying to be a wise guy, but I remember proposing this idea about a year ago on this forum. Of course I was "gunned down" by some of the regulars here.

There were a number of us that suggested this, myself included though I may have suggested 5-6 cities between U.S. and Europe. I still think it makes sense. And maybe make a couple of the shows a pay-per-view since obviously not everyone is going to make it to the actual shows.

You guys were right I am sure, but the ones that said Keith can't make were even more right unfortunately.

There is time.... there is plenty of time... time is on our side, yes it is....

shouldn't the subject headline be "Stones tour pushed back to 2013 (maybe)"?

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The GR
Now ban these ridiculous 2012 tour threads ans ALL tour threads till at least October

But can mickscarey continue with the "done deal"?

Hmmm, well okay.

And the beaten horse finally dies.

Will this become the 6th sticky?

Cue stonescrow's "I told you so" thread in 3...2...1....

so the way i read the article is, keith can't pass the insurance physical.?

which makes me wonder. were they really going to go on the road in 2010 but cancelled because they thought the economy was still really bad.

and was there really a tour set for 2011 but they backed out because the promoters started to sue each other.

personally i just don't see multiple nights in major cities. how many people would travel to see the stones in LA, chicago, NY, boston? mick has said 60% of the audience at a stadium show have never seen the band before.

Good,more money I can spend on Springsteen this year.

"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"

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sweetcharmedlife
Good,more money I can spend on Springsteen this year.

I hear ya..I dropped plenty on the Beach Boys shows so giving me a little breather (if the Stones ever really tour) till next year totally works out!

Gazza´s post on RocksOff:


Re: the stones to play again(update: tour now in 2
Reply #303 - Today at 11:12am
yep.

In all seriousness though, its evident that something's happened in literally the
last couple of weeks to change what plans they had.

The Stones office getting Ronnie's passport sorted for some 'extensive
travelling' within the last month proves that they really were planning to tour
later this year.

Whilst I never heard a SINGLE venue even strongly rumoured, everything pointed to
a series of extended runs in a few American cities in the latter part of the
year. Just a few days ago, Mike Love of the Beach Boys even mentioned that the
reason that HIS band were touring in the summer was because he knew the Stones
would be on the road in the fall.

Putting two and two together (and probably getting five), it just strikes me that
the recent live appearances by Keith made someone - be it the band themselves or
a would-be insurer or promoter - think twice about any prolonged touring in the
short run.

Doubt its just that, though. As of now, the Stones don't have a tour promoter
(yet) and there's probably a lot of legal issues to go through before they can
embark on a tour.

80% of unseen footage sounds promising.

I hope they've tracked down Georgio Gomelski's footage of them at the Crawdaddy.
Also, maybe they'll include the Keith Electrocution footage from 65?

Well.. I don't think it's going to happen.

It's March 2012 and they can't get anything together before 2013?

It ain't happening until it's happening (and then only if Mick says it's happening).

I really think it has a lot more to do with money then Keith's health..

To get the Stones the cash they want they need to build up a ton of
excitement...And just turning fifty won't do it..

1. Build up Press in 2012 with movie, etc...A ton of Stones news.

2. They need to record a NEW Some Girls type selling album to build a tour with..They
will need a ton of new younger fans to part with their money.

3. Then have everyone say we better go as Keith won't be around the next time..
Can't miss this tour...Could be the LAST TIME!

All this hype will generate into increase ticket sales.

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vudicus
80% of unseen footage sounds promising.

well, "unseen by whom" is always the question.
it might just mean "not yet used in authorized documentaries" ... but we can hope.

me i'm putting the "unnamed insider" speculation about health issues firmly aside until further notice.
and meanwhile: all kinds of blessings & well-being on all the Rolling Stones

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bad news. they've had many years to "get ready".. why is keith not ready? what has he been doing?

its also possible, never put anything past them, that they are waiting for the US economy in particular to recover further in 2013 so they can make more money.


sad..

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sweetcharmedlife
Good,more money I can spend on Springsteen this year.

I hear ya..I dropped plenty on the Beach Boys shows so giving me a little breather (if the Stones ever really tour) till next year totally works out!

Looking at my concert stash $$, having already purchased Beach Boys & Springsteen tix, now I can hope for some So Cal Pearl Jam shows by the end of the year.

Justin, talk to me before the BB Bowl show. Don't even think about driving to the Bowl, park n ride is the only way to go, and cheap!

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TooTough
Gazza´s post on RocksOff:


Re: the stones to play again(update: tour now in 2
Reply #303 - Today at 11:12am
yep.

In all seriousness though, its evident that something's happened in literally the
last couple of weeks to change what plans they had.

The Stones office getting Ronnie's passport sorted for some 'extensive
travelling' within the last month proves that they really were planning to tour
later this year.

Whilst I never heard a SINGLE venue even strongly rumoured, everything pointed to
a series of extended runs in a few American cities in the latter part of the
year. Just a few days ago, Mike Love of the Beach Boys even mentioned that the
reason that HIS band were touring in the summer was because he knew the Stones
would be on the road in the fall.

Putting two and two together (and probably getting five), it just strikes me that
the recent live appearances by Keith made someone - be it the band themselves or
a would-be insurer or promoter - think twice about any prolonged touring in the
short run.

Doubt its just that, though. As of now, the Stones don't have a tour promoter
(yet) and there's probably a lot of legal issues to go through before they can
embark on a tour.

If Gazza wants to say something, he can come here and say it himself.

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Mathijs
Sure Richards' health will only get better with age...And what will Wyman be in 2013? 77?

Mathijs

Exactly. I will not hold my breath.