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The whole damn thing made me feel old.

There was one particular moment that made me feel ancient. Early in the show, LL Cool J said something like, "And there's my 'Round The Way Girl', Taylor Swift!" LL was referencing his own song, "Round The Way Girl". a hit in 1990, when I was already in my 30s. From the expression on her face, it was clear that Taylor Swift, born in 1989, had absolutely no idea what he was talking about.

I agree with you mickschix, Mars's peformance was immaculate but boring. I have seen him before. I don't think it's wrong to call him a James Brown (or Prince...) epigon. Skilful but boring.

How boring was Springsteen?!

Yeah that chorus of 'done deal' seemed to go on for about three years!

Wish I could remember - I'm still in shock to learn that God didn't give us the remote control... Sicilian - I was joking - I respect all religions - if you only knew...

Geez guys - lighten up! Or just light up - whatever works.

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Why does Lady Gaga feel the need to dress in the most outrageous costumes? She looks like a sardine caught in a fishing net.

I find it exhausting just to look at her. All I can think of is the hours and hours she must spend in front of the mirror before each and every public appearance, making sure she looks nothing like she's ever looked in any previous public appearance. Then there's the hours and hours she must spend every day coming up with all these new looks. Who comes up with all these crazy costume ideas? Does she design them all herself? Or does she have a wardrobe department working 'round the clock?



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I thought Adelle blew everyone out of the water.

Marroon Five doing little surfer girl was suprsingly good. Foster the people's wouldn't it be nice sucked.

Forget Minaj, I'm offended that you would praise Maroon 5 but slag Foster.
Foster did a brilliant job of re-creating one of the greatest, most complex recorded song in the history of music.
As a musican, I've been trying to learn this song all my life.
The lead singer has a thin voice, but he captured the melody. Its not an easy song to sing, even in the car. And if you're going to do a Beach Boys tribute, you better get the harmonies right. Maroon seemed strained, and it was an easy-choice song and nothing stood out. Levine may have a technically better voice than Foster, but that means nothing. Levine was emoting too much and very pitchy.
Foster/People nailed it.
From the timpani player to the great looping bass line to all those little whimsical touches: Brian created this song piece by piece in a recording studio over a period or time. These guys managed to capture the essence, the feel of this masterpiece in all its melodic, childlike, orchestral magnificance! It's like a tapestry, chaotic mosaic of everything going on in Brian's head and yet it makes sense.
I think you have to realize how amazing the production of Brian's song is to fully appreciate that Foster tried to pay homage to every singe note, drum beat, vocal part....
To nitpick about the guy's vocal skills is an injustice to what they were able to accomplish live with a live band.

Are there any other Beach Boys purists here who can support here?

[justjared.buzznet.com]



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Wish I could remember - I'm still in shock to learn that God didn't give us the remote control... Sicilian - I was joking - I respect all religions - if you only knew...

Geez guys - lighten up! Or just light up - whatever works.

No offense in good conversation.

But please when someone is offended allow that person to indulge in it. Feel free to join in and melt a little.

For the record, I am more offended by the fact that the network allowed that into the show knowing clearly that Catholics would be highly offended starting with the "Pope" figure escorting her in. I could care less about her, but that little act has its place in her BET videos.

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How boring was Springsteen?!

To answer your question, not boring at all!

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I thought Adelle blew everyone out of the water.

Marroon Five doing little surfer girl was suprsingly good. Foster the people's wouldn't it be nice sucked.

Forget Minaj, I'm offended that you would praise Maroon 5 but slag Foster.
Foster did a brilliant job of re-creating one of the greatest, most complex recorded song in the history of music.
As a musican, I've been trying to learn this song all my life.
The lead singer has a thin voice, but he captured the melody. Its not an easy song to sing, even in the car. And if you're going to do a Beach Boys tribute, you better get the harmonies right. Maroon seemed strained, and it was an easy-choice song and nothing stood out. Levine may have a technically better voice than Foster, but that means nothing. Levine was emoting too much and very pitchy.
Foster/People nailed it.
From the timpani player to the great looping bass line to all those little whimsical touches: Brian created this song piece by piece in a recording studio over a period or time. These guys managed to capture the essence, the feel of this masterpiece in all its melodic, childlike, orchestral magnificance! It's like a tapestry, chaotic mosaic of everything going on in Brian's head and yet it makes sense.
I think you have to realize how amazing the production of Brian's song is to fully appreciate that Foster tried to pay homage to every singe note, drum beat, vocal part....
To nitpick about the guy's vocal skills is an injustice to what they were able to accomplish live with a live band.

Are there any other Beach Boys purists here who can support here?

[justjared.buzznet.com]

I'm here with ya stupidguy2! I thought they did an exceptional job with the song. The lead singer has gone on record as being a huge Brian fan (which helps with the brownie points, of course) but like you said, he really did a fine job capturing the lead vocal. The intonation, inflection and most of all, the accuracy of hitting that melody correctly was all there. He seemed to have a lost some steam by the end of it but nevertheless, they kept the fun and joyful feel to the song. I have yet to know for sure but it seems that Brian's band were really the ones we could hear who played the music. Sure Foster The People were all up there plugged in and playing, but I suspect they were mixed lower right under Brian's band. I think that is what accounted for the very full and large sound. I thought the entire performance (including the B was mixed awful. I bet it sounded better in the Staples Center.

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I agree with you mickschix, Mars's peformance was immaculate but boring. I have seen him before. I don't think it's wrong to call him a James Brown (or Prince...) epigon. Skilful but boring.

That I disagree with. I remember a young Mick Jagger at the TAMI show pulling some James Brown moves himself. Most every entertainer gets their cues from someone in the past, including the Stones.

Give the guy credit, he had some nice choreographed moves with his band mates and a fantastic little stage show. The clothes and hair looked good too.

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I thought Adelle blew everyone out of the water.

Marroon Five doing little surfer girl was suprsingly good. Foster the people's wouldn't it be nice sucked.

Forget Minaj, I'm offended that you would praise Maroon 5 but slag Foster.
Foster did a brilliant job of re-creating one of the greatest, most complex recorded song in the history of music.
As a musican, I've been trying to learn this song all my life.
The lead singer has a thin voice, but he captured the melody. Its not an easy song to sing, even in the car. And if you're going to do a Beach Boys tribute, you better get the harmonies right. Maroon seemed strained, and it was an easy-choice song and nothing stood out. Levine may have a technically better voice than Foster, but that means nothing. Levine was emoting too much and very pitchy.
Foster/People nailed it.
From the timpani player to the great looping bass line to all those little whimsical touches: Brian created this song piece by piece in a recording studio over a period or time. These guys managed to capture the essence, the feel of this masterpiece in all its melodic, childlike, orchestral magnificance! It's like a tapestry, chaotic mosaic of everything going on in Brian's head and yet it makes sense.
I think you have to realize how amazing the production of Brian's song is to fully appreciate that Foster tried to pay homage to every singe note, drum beat, vocal part....
To nitpick about the guy's vocal skills is an injustice to what they were able to accomplish live with a live band.

Are there any other Beach Boys purists here who can support here?

[justjared.buzznet.com]

I'm here with ya stupidguy2! I thought they did an exceptional job with the song. The lead singer has gone on record as being a huge Brian fan (which helps with the brownie points, of course) but like you said, he really did a fine job capturing the lead vocal. The intonation, inflection and most of all, the accuracy of hitting that melody correctly was all there. He seemed to have a lost some steam by the end of it but nevertheless, they kept the fun and joyful feel to the song. I have yet to know for sure but it seems that Brian's band were really the ones we could hear who played the music. Sure Foster The People were all up there plugged in and playing, but I suspect they were mixed lower right under Brian's band. I think that is what accounted for the very full and large sound. I thought the entire performance (including the B was mixed awful. I bet it sounded better in the Staples Center.

I like Foster the people's Hit song, its good pop music. I can appreciate that Wouldn't it be nice is a difficult song. Their version of it just didn't work for me. I don' think his voice really suited it, something wasn't authentic about it to me. It was forced. That's just the impression it left on me.



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I thought Bruce was great. The song works and they worked it well.

I just hope that it doesn't become a campaign song later this year . . . or four years from now.

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I thought Adelle blew everyone out of the water.

Marroon Five doing little surfer girl was suprsingly good. Foster the people's wouldn't it be nice sucked.

Forget Minaj, I'm offended that you would praise Maroon 5 but slag Foster.
Foster did a brilliant job of re-creating one of the greatest, most complex recorded song in the history of music.
As a musican, I've been trying to learn this song all my life.
The lead singer has a thin voice, but he captured the melody. Its not an easy song to sing, even in the car. And if you're going to do a Beach Boys tribute, you better get the harmonies right. Maroon seemed strained, and it was an easy-choice song and nothing stood out. Levine may have a technically better voice than Foster, but that means nothing. Levine was emoting too much and very pitchy.
Foster/People nailed it.
From the timpani player to the great looping bass line to all those little whimsical touches: Brian created this song piece by piece in a recording studio over a period or time. These guys managed to capture the essence, the feel of this masterpiece in all its melodic, childlike, orchestral magnificance! It's like a tapestry, chaotic mosaic of everything going on in Brian's head and yet it makes sense.
I think you have to realize how amazing the production of Brian's song is to fully appreciate that Foster tried to pay homage to every singe note, drum beat, vocal part....
To nitpick about the guy's vocal skills is an injustice to what they were able to accomplish live with a live band.

Are there any other Beach Boys purists here who can support here?

[justjared.buzznet.com]

I'm here with ya stupidguy2! I thought they did an exceptional job with the song. The lead singer has gone on record as being a huge Brian fan (which helps with the brownie points, of course) but like you said, he really did a fine job capturing the lead vocal. The intonation, inflection and most of all, the accuracy of hitting that melody correctly was all there. He seemed to have a lost some steam by the end of it but nevertheless, they kept the fun and joyful feel to the song. I have yet to know for sure but it seems that Brian's band were really the ones we could hear who played the music. Sure Foster The People were all up there plugged in and playing, but I suspect they were mixed lower right under Brian's band. I think that is what accounted for the very full and large sound. I thought the entire performance (including the B was mixed awful. I bet it sounded better in the Staples Center.

Was that Brian's band behind the Foster guys? I wondered about that and figured it had to be some 'Beach Boys' up there....nevertheless, you're right - Foster kept the spirit of the song intact. And I've seen that blond guy before - the guy on timpani, is he part of Brian's band?

Yes indeed, Brian's entire band was back there holding it down (and yeah that's Nelson Bragg on percussion). Only two members of Mike Love's group were incorporated into the group: John Cowsill on drums and Scott Totteen on guitar. Can't wait for the tour..

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Yes indeed, Brian's entire band was back there holding it down (and yeah that's Nelson Bragg on percussion). Only two members of Mike Love's group were incorporated into the group: John Cowsill on drums and Scott Totteen on guitar. Can't wait for the tour..

That's where that big sound came from - I wondered about that, just didn't know that was Brian's official band. I thought it might have been some studio musicians.
Either way, they did an excellent job - incredible.



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fat soozie is still in springsteens band ugh.

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Yes indeed, Brian's entire band was back there holding it down (and yeah that's Nelson Bragg on percussion). Only two members of Mike Love's group were incorporated into the group: John Cowsill on drums and Scott Totteen on guitar. Can't wait for the tour..

That's where that big sound came from - I wondered about that, just didn't know that was Brian's official band. I thought it might have been some studio musicians.
Either way, they did an excellent job - incredible.

Here's the best quality video of the performances. In looking at the video there are many instances where you hear John hitting the drums while the Foster drummer is doing something else. But anyway...good job by all!

[929nin.com]

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Yes indeed, Brian's entire band was back there holding it down (and yeah that's Nelson Bragg on percussion). Only two members of Mike Love's group were incorporated into the group: John Cowsill on drums and Scott Totteen on guitar. Can't wait for the tour..

That's where that big sound came from - I wondered about that, just didn't know that was Brian's official band. I thought it might have been some studio musicians.
Either way, they did an excellent job - incredible.

Here's the best quality video of the performances. In looking at the video there are many instances where you hear John hitting the drums while the Foster drummer is doing something else. But anyway...good job by all!

[929nin.com]

Thanks!

What a great band! I knew there had to be some seriously studious musicians back there nailing all those parts down. Brilliant....I wonder how long they've had to work to perfect this song. I love Foster the People - very inventive and melodic -but damn, if they had managed to pull this off all on their own, they could have gotten a Grammy for that alone.
There is something to be said for studio/session musicians - they probably have the discipline most "artists"/musicians lack.



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What a great band! I knew there had to be some seriously studious musicians back there nailing all those parts down. Brilliant....I wonder how long they've had to work to perfect this song. I love Foster the People - very inventive and melodic -but damn, if they had managed to pull this off all on their own, they could have gotten a Grammy for that alone.
There is something to be said for studio/session musicians - they probably have the discipline most "artists"/musicians lack.

Brian's had essentially the same band since 1999 (save for a few changes here and there over the years). They're an incredible group of musicians who are really committed to performing his music and they know the songs well...their sound never ceases to amaze me every time I've seen them, and I'm glad they'll be on the tour.

I have done my best to not like him, and I aint no dang Beatles fan.... but just watching Glastonbury 2004... and having seen him kicking butt and having fun and playing a lot of great music in recent years... McCartney seem hell bent on winning me over... and I must admit he is doing it... He is like the Terminator he does not stop.... and again last night on the Shammys.... he kicked ass... he makes no excuses, he just does it.... Good for him... NO.... GREAT FOR HIM.

Stoneage, very well put, " immaculate but boring"...great line! And Max, Paul McCartney has an insidious way of sneaking into your heart...that's if he hasn't been there all along.I have friends who feel as you do. I have loved Paul since I was ten so it's not a new thing for me but hey, better late than never!

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I didn't see the Grammys (yet) so I don't know whether I would have been offended but I do find it annoying that Christianity is about the only religion it's OK to mock.

It's the best one to mock due to its arrogance, especially when Catholic priests are involved. A lot of fish people use it as an excuse for their behaviour.

I think I like her performance,

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But still, my point is that there is a place for artist who stray from the accepted norm - her act is part-hip-hop and part performance art.....
Not my thing, and you don't have to like it, but I get irritated at some of the 'moral outrage'.

Well I definitely agree with you on the 'moral outrage'...that, is a joke.

How is it possible to be a Stones fan, and have moral outrage? Maybe they need to see a clip of c*cksucker blues?

Yeah, one of the greatest examples of this on this board a while back:
Someone deriding Gaga for using gimmicks in her live shows, to which another poster (Gazza?),
(paraphrasing)
'Yeah, because using a giant inflatable cock as a prop is completely artistic.'

I vaguely remember posting something along those lines myself a long way back!

Is it just me or does Taylor Swift sing about the same topic for every song? Some guy breaking her heart. Can't she write a song about a toaster or something?

Weeeeeellll my ole toaster burnt my toast again today....
maaaaakes me want to throw that thaaaaaang awaaaaay...
but if if my toaster leave... ima juta axsken pleaaaseeee...
oh oh ohoh toaster of miiiiinnneeee... you used a maked the toast so fine......
but nowwwwwwww ..you burn iteeeeevrrry daaaaaayyyyy..... oh toaster why oh whyyyooooo

Now THAT's a hit, Max!!

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Is it just me or does Taylor Swift sing about the same topic for every song? Some guy breaking her heart. Can't she write a song about a toaster or something?

LOL. Yeah, but she looks pretty good while singing 'em.

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