It's also on this Warner Bros DVD:



"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Think about it.

Cockney barrow-boy sings black blues in black voice about how nice black slaves taste to a black American sitting next to him whilst cockney barrow-boy is looking at his black wife.

I think Ike was thinking... WTF?

It really is a strange world.

Quote
GravityBoy
OK one for the gear heads.

It's a Fender Telecaster Thinline Mick is playing.

What is the amp?

________
Edited: I'm guessing Fender Princeton :-)
Nice warm tube shimmer to it.

Fender Champ (Silverface)?

Although I had seen it before it's cool to see it again. It's great to witness Mick's original work on BS's. First time I saw it I was surprised to see how much of that song came from Jagger. Keith probably came up with the intro which is also very important and is a classic stones' riff.
Rock and Roll,
Mops

Quote
xke38
Fender Champ (Silverface)?

Does a Champ have a red light on the right side of the control panel?

I'm gassing for one of these now.

I've got a Fender Mustang II that is supposed to emulate both these amps (The Champ emulation is pretty good on clean). But you can't beat the real thing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-04 09:59 by GravityBoy.

Quote
GravityBoy

Quote
xke38
Fender Champ (Silverface)?

Does a Champ have a red light on the right side of the control panel?

I'm gassing for one of these now.

I've got a Fender Mustang II that is supposed to emulate both these amps (The Champ emulation is pretty good on clean). But you can't beat the real thing.

Yes it does.

Fender Silverface Champ

So it does.

I think it's probably a Champ between Ike's legs (you know what I mean).

What is funny in that clip that Tina seems to exactly know what the expression "Brown Sugar" means; she seems genuily surprised in hearing that from Mick's mouth. That seems to be the only thing that makes the difference in Mick's performance..

- Doxa



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-04 15:36 by Doxa.

What's the blues he plays at the end?

Quote
GravityBoy
So it does.

I think it's probably a Champ between Ike's legs (you know what I mean).

lol!

Quote
GravityBoy
I don't think Ike was entirely pleased.

I don't see that at all. Ike was no fool: the minute Jagger sings that chorus line anyone in the room musta known it was a major hit. I bet I ke asked him what the deal with the song was.
One thing I do wonder is - Jagger says he wrote the whole song in Australia, in a rush; where words kept coming. Makes me think he had the lyrics sort of together. Yet - he does not sit there next to Ike and Tina and go on about 'slave ships' and cotton fields'; 'scarred old slavers' . Just gives him the good parts.

Quote
GravityBoy
Think about it.

Cockney barrow-boy sings black blues in black voice about how nice black slaves taste to a black American sitting next to him whilst cockney barrow-boy is looking at his black wife.

I think Ike was thinking... WTF?

Wasn't it one of the Ikettes - Claudia Lennear - who inspired Mick
to write that song? Think I read it somewhere back then.

Sad that in the 60´s homemade movie recording technology was so incipient so to speak.

We nowadays have tons of video recording of Bieber´s breakfast, Bieber´s bowels movement, Bieber´s doing the shopping, Bieber´s somersaults, Bieber´s in the hairdresser´s...but we have so scarce number of the 60&70 stones movie recordings....

Quote
Phil Good

Wasn't it one of the Ikettes - Claudia Lennear - who inspired Mick
to write that song? Think I read it somewhere back then.

You see her briefly in the footage, there's also some photos in which it appears Mick and Claudia exchange phone numbers or something.

Quote
His Majesty

Quote
Phil Good

Wasn't it one of the Ikettes - Claudia Lennear - who inspired Mick
to write that song? Think I read it somewhere back then.

You see her briefly in the footage, there's also some photos in which it appears Mick and Claudia exchange phone numbers or something.

In the footage of the Gimme Shelter movie or Ya-Ya DVD?
And where to find these photos?

Quote
Phil Good

Quote
His Majesty

Quote
Phil Good

Wasn't it one of the Ikettes - Claudia Lennear - who inspired Mick
to write that song? Think I read it somewhere back then.

You see her briefly in the footage, there's also some photos in which it appears Mick and Claudia exchange phone numbers or something.

In the footage of the Gimme Shelter movie or Ya-Ya DVD?
And where to find these photos?

In the clip posted here. Yah see her rear view behind Tina for a short bit in the clip.

Can't recall where the photos are, but I do recall ROCKMAN and I noting the apparent exchange when the photos were posted here.

I can't remember saw this one before ...I like it

__________________________

Got it. Thanks Majesty.
I really liked Claudia.
Saw her a couple of times with Ike and Tina and
with Joe Cocker's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen".

Quote
Phil Good
Got it. Thanks Majesty.
I really liked Claudia.
Saw her a couple of times with Ike and Tina and
with Joe Cocker's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen".

Yeah, she is super ace!

Quote
Phil Good
Got it. Thanks Majesty.
I really liked Claudia.
Saw her a couple of times with Ike and Tina and
with Joe Cocker's "Mad Dogs and Englishmen".

Couple of pics of her with Mick here...

[www.tumblr.com]

Great track in there as well.

oh, did you see "What's love got to do with it". Damn,Ike could do more coke than "Rockman", and then beat Annie Mae to a pulp

mick had better guitar chops than you would think at this point in his career

The verses are different from the studio Brown Sugar.

I would say that Mick kept trying to improve the verses.

Looks like he had the just about midnight part and the Brown Sugar chorus part first and filler verses.

It sounds like an old Blues song the way Mick is doing it.
The timing is different and not the Stones swing.

There are no sus4 chords in Micks main riff (F, D, Bb, C, chords) but I think Mick is playing some sus4's in other parts.

sus4 chords are Keiths thing.

Mick said he wrote it in outback Australia.

July 13-September 10, 1969: Mick Jagger films his part for the film Ned Kelly in Australia, where he composes
Brown Sugar and also hurts his hand during shooting.



Mick Jagger: "Brown Sugar"
I wrote Brown Sugar in Australia in the middle of a field. They were really odd circumstances. I was doing this movie, Ned Kelly, and my hand had got really damaged in this action sequence. So stupid. I was trying to rehabilitate my hand and I had this new kind of electric guitar, and I was playing in the middle of the outback and wrote this tune.

God knows what I'm on about on that song. It's such a mishmash. All the nasty subjects in one go... I never would write that song now. I would probably censor myself. I'd think, Oh God, I can't. I've got to stop. I can't just write raw like that.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 06:01 by howled.

Quote
Koen
What's the blues he plays at the end?

Little Queen of Spades

Quote
howled
God knows what I'm on about on that song. It's such a mishmash. All the nasty subjects in one go... I never would write that song now. I would probably censor myself. I'd think, Oh God, I can't. I've got to stop. I can't just write raw like that.

Does anyone else see the problem for the last 3 decades?

Brown Sugar followed by Little Queen of Spades: The little bugger is openly flirting with Tina in front of Ike...

Where I can find the complete audio part of this jam ?
So Brown suger + Little queen od spade

Quote
His Majesty

Quote
Phil Good

Quote
His Majesty

Quote
Phil Good

Wasn't it one of the Ikettes - Claudia Lennear - who inspired Mick
to write that song? Think I read it somewhere back then.

You see her briefly in the footage, there's also some photos in which it appears Mick and Claudia exchange phone numbers or something.

In the footage of the Gimme Shelter movie or Ya-Ya DVD?
And where to find these photos?

In the clip posted here. Yah see her rear view behind Tina for a short bit in the clip.

Can't recall where the photos are, but I do recall ROCKMAN and I noting the apparent exchange when the photos were posted here.

she is also in this video: