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I my bad memory serves me right, there is nothing about it. I remember checking it when I heard about the claim.
- Doxa
maybe it's another book in that case, but Bill's account of it has been published.
obviously it was a traumatic experience
Yeah, I also remember reading somewhere Bill's account, too.
- Doxa
Yes ,I can .
Actually , it was mentionned on a thread of mine concerning Jagger at the Strawberry Hill Jamaica For The Recording Of The "Don't Look Back "Video
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I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
That's classic.
I work with a guy that's constantly saying that.
We all want to ram a sock down his throat.
Keith disputed it in "Life". "Never happened."
That's quite a tale to make up! Why would anyone make up something like this? To put Bill in a bad light?
Greetings from the Jersey Shore.
Its also a non-hat. And a non-shoe for that matter too.
Still - glad I don't waste the money on "Old Gods..."
I heard about that one -- Anita was in a Jamaican jail when this allegedly happened, correct? I have never heard this didn't happen, though.
Greetings from the Jersey Shore.
You can't really take either version at face value. None of these books are academic research with verifiable sources. They're interesting for sure but whether they are "The Truth", I doubt.
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Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Spodlumt
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Date: January 28, 2012 08:19
Reading about the "Goat's Head Soup" sessions in Jamiaca, the author claimed that Bill Wyman hid under his bed while an assailant raped Astrid in their hotel. WTF?
Why didn't Wyman sue him for that kind of BS?
Why didn't Wyman sue him for that kind of BS?
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: January 28, 2012 08:44
OGAD is a mean-spirited regurgitated non-book -
but i reckon you need to check out Bill's account of that incidentin Rolling With the Stones
edit: sorry, don't mean to mislead anyone - apparently it's not in Rolling With ... but it's in print somewhere
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-28 23:07 by with sssoul.
but i reckon you need to check out Bill's account of that incident
edit: sorry, don't mean to mislead anyone - apparently it's not in Rolling With ... but it's in print somewhere
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-28 23:07 by with sssoul.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: January 28, 2012 11:38
Yeah Stephen Davis has been writing sh!t for quite some time now.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
CousinC
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Date: January 28, 2012 17:29
This has not been new and unfortunately seems to be true.
It's been in the Appleford book before and A. Johns(engineer) told about it.
It's been in the Appleford book before and A. Johns(engineer) told about it.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
flacnvinyl
()
Date: January 28, 2012 17:38
Wait... what? This happened? Can someone point to a thread where this has already been covered?
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: January 28, 2012 17:43
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with sssoul
OGAD is a mean-spirited regurgitated non-book -
but i reckon you need to check out Bill's account of that incident in Rolling With the Stones
I my bad memory serves me right, there is nothing about it. I remember checking it when I heard about the claim.
- Doxa
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: January 28, 2012 18:03
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Doxa
If my bad memory serves me right, there is nothing about it. I remember checking it when I heard about the claim.
maybe it's another book in that case, but Bill's account of it has been published.
obviously it was a traumatic experience
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: January 28, 2012 18:39
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with sssoulQuote
Doxa
If my bad memory serves me right, there is nothing about it. I remember checking it when I heard about the claim.
maybe it's another book in that case, but Bill's account of it has been published.
obviously it was a traumatic experience
Yeah, I also remember reading somewhere Bill's account, too.
- Doxa
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: January 28, 2012 19:08
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flacnvinyl
Wait... what? This happened? Can someone point to a thread where this has already been covered?
Yes ,I can .
Actually , it was mentionned on a thread of mine concerning Jagger at the Strawberry Hill Jamaica For The Recording Of The "Don't Look Back "Video
[www.iorr.org]
Quote
gwen
From Rolling Stones: Rip This Joint: The Stories Behind Every Song by Steve Appleford ( [www.amazon.com] ):Quote
…one night about six weeks into the recording, a man with a knife broke into Bill Wyman’s hotel room. The intruder demanded money and ordered Wyman underneath the bed. He then raped Wyman’s longtime girlfriend, Astrid Lundstrom. Minutes later, Johns [Engineer Andy Johns] heard a knock on his door. It was Astrid. “Oh Andy, you’ll never guess,” she told Johns. “I’ve just been raped!”
The engineer immediately grabbed some heavy object to use as a weapon and ran outside and down the road, cutting his feet on broken glass. But the rapist had escaped across the lawn in another direction. “Bill, obviously, was totally freaked because he’d had to lie under the bed while all of this went on,” says Johns. “If he had done anything the guy would have cut his @#$%& head off. He really didn’t have any @#$%& choice. It was a tough thing. It was another Rolling Stones thing. Shit like that was always going on.”
Bill and Astrid moved into another hotel, and the sessions continued.
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
()
Date: January 28, 2012 19:27
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flacnvinyl
Wait... what?
That's classic.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Edith Grove
()
Date: January 28, 2012 19:35
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WeLoveToPlayTheBluesQuote
flacnvinyl
Wait... what?
That's classic.
I work with a guy that's constantly saying that.
We all want to ram a sock down his throat.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Tumblin_Dice_07
()
Date: January 28, 2012 20:06
I've read about that in several different books. I've never heard of it being disputed. I don't think Wyman was actually "hiding" under the bed though. He was apparently forced there at knife point.....or machete point. Whatever.
I understand that Davis' book does have alot of factual errors. And yes it is mean spirited. He seemed to have a desire to tear the Stones mythology down. The overall tone of the book, and some really bad factual mistakes (mistakes that most folks on this board could recognise) are what turned me off to the book.
I understand that Davis' book does have alot of factual errors. And yes it is mean spirited. He seemed to have a desire to tear the Stones mythology down. The overall tone of the book, and some really bad factual mistakes (mistakes that most folks on this board could recognise) are what turned me off to the book.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
memphiscats
()
Date: January 28, 2012 20:23
Thanks for the info - I had a sample of this book and I didn't like the tone so I didn't buy it - glad my suspicions are confirmed.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
TheDailyBuzzherd
()
Date: January 28, 2012 22:14
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Tumblin_Dice_07
I've never heard of it being disputed.
Keith disputed it in "Life". "Never happened."
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
misterfrias
()
Date: January 28, 2012 22:28
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TheDailyBuzzherdQuote
Tumblin_Dice_07
I've never heard of it being disputed.
Keith disputed it in "Life". "Never happened."
That's quite a tale to make up! Why would anyone make up something like this? To put Bill in a bad light?
Greetings from the Jersey Shore.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
ryanpow
()
Date: January 28, 2012 22:56
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with sssoul
OGAD is a mean-spirited regurgitated non-book -
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Its also a non-hat. And a non-shoe for that matter too.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
memphiscats
()
Date: January 29, 2012 01:45
If I'm not mistaken, I think Keith disputed that Anita was raped - I don't recall anything about Bill Wyman & Astrid...mmm...maybe I missed it.Quote
misterfriasQuote
TheDailyBuzzherdQuote
Tumblin_Dice_07
I've never heard of it being disputed.
Keith disputed it in "Life". "Never happened."
That's quite a tale to make up! Why would anyone make up something like this? To put Bill in a bad light?
Still - glad I don't waste the money on "Old Gods..."
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
misterfrias
()
Date: January 29, 2012 01:58
Quote
memphiscats
If I'm not mistaken, I think Keith disputed that Anita was raped - I don't recall anything about Bill Wyman & Astrid...mmm...maybe I missed it.
Still - glad I don't waste the money on "Old Gods..."
I heard about that one -- Anita was in a Jamaican jail when this allegedly happened, correct? I have never heard this didn't happen, though.
Greetings from the Jersey Shore.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
memphiscats
()
Date: January 29, 2012 04:04
Hey...yeah according to Keith's book, the whole thing about Anita being raped was a fabrication...who knows the real truth? On the other hand, Victor Bockris's book on Keith Richards, goes into detail about Anita's supposed rape in a Jamaican jail while Keith was hanging out in the UK due to visa issues etc...I kind of believe Keith's version but who knows...Quote
misterfriasQuote
memphiscats
If I'm not mistaken, I think Keith disputed that Anita was raped - I don't recall anything about Bill Wyman & Astrid...mmm...maybe I missed it.
Still - glad I don't waste the money on "Old Gods..."
I heard about that one -- Anita was in a Jamaican jail when this allegedly happened, correct? I have never heard this didn't happen, though.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Title5Take1
()
Date: January 29, 2012 09:05
Bizarre title for a book, if nothing else. What Stones fan wants to buy a book that practically announces in its title that it was written to trash the Stones?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-30 03:23 by Title5Take1.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-30 03:23 by Title5Take1.
Re: Old Gods Almost Dead outrageous claim
Posted by:
Father Ted
()
Date: January 29, 2012 12:07
Quote
memphiscatsHey...yeah according to Keith's book, the whole thing about Anita being raped was a fabrication...who knows the real truth? On the other hand, Victor Bockris's book on Keith Richards, goes into detail about Anita's supposed rape in a Jamaican jail while Keith was hanging out in the UK due to visa issues etc...I kind of believe Keith's version but who knows...Quote
misterfriasQuote
memphiscats
If I'm not mistaken, I think Keith disputed that Anita was raped - I don't recall anything about Bill Wyman & Astrid...mmm...maybe I missed it.
Still - glad I don't waste the money on "Old Gods..."
I heard about that one -- Anita was in a Jamaican jail when this allegedly happened, correct? I have never heard this didn't happen, though.
You can't really take either version at face value. None of these books are academic research with verifiable sources. They're interesting for sure but whether they are "The Truth", I doubt.
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