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I happen to like Love You Live: it has a good sound, albeit sloppy, and is akin to the Stones meeting The Faces.

In truth it was the Stones meeting the Faces, with Ronnie joining.

When you consider the last live album Ronnie played on, i.e. Coast to Coast Overtures and Beginners, it is top quality.Coast to Coast is awful.

What has happened, I think, is that everyone thinks the previously released live album is top drawer, i.e. Ya Yas, and that Love You Live has a tough act to follow. I am sorry, but it's a different band in that Mick Taylor has gone, and Ronnie has arrived. It's probably the best live album, Stripped aside, of the Wood era.

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I happen to like Love You Live: it has a good sound, albeit sloppy, and is akin to the Stones meeting The Faces.

In truth it was the Stones meeting the Faces, with Ronnie joining.

When you consider the last live album Ronnie played on, i.e. Coast to Coast Overtures and Beginners, it is top quality.Coast to Coast is awful.

What has happened, I think, is that everyone thinks the previously released live album is top drawer, i.e. Ya Yas, and that Love You Live has a tough act to follow. I am sorry, but it's a different band in that Mick Taylor has gone, and Ronnie has arrived. It's probably the best live album, Stripped aside, of the Wood era.

Yes, I also happen to like Love You Live and I remember reading many glowing reviews of it when it came out. At first, I was thrilled to have a brand new live album from the Stones, as I considered that the stage is where they really put out the magic. At the same time, I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something as stellar as Ya Yas. But I realized that this was a different line up, a different era and I embraced the raw semi-sloppy rambunctiousness of it all. In recent times, I sometimes think they Stones may have shot themselves in the foot by doctoring up Ya Yas to such a state of perfection. I was ten when I first heard it and didn't learn till much later that they polished it up with so many overdubs, etc. But a few things had raised my suspicions. When a local TV station first aired Gimme Shelter, I noticed right away that the sound was a lot less polished and wait....where was the glorious Keith-harmonized chorus to Jumping Jack Flash that sounded so similar to the studio version? Same with the much rougher chorus to Honky Tonk Women? I suspect a lot of people may have based their expectations of how the Stones sounded live on Ya Yas. I know more than a few people who went to Stones concerts in that era and complained that they didn't sound as great as they did on Ya Yas. Maybe they shouldn't have polished Ya Yas quite so much. Love You Live is probably a more realistic presentation of the Stones live sound at that time, although I know overdubs were done on LYL as well. Still, I think they did a good job retaining the feel and the rawness that defined a Stones show in '75 - '76. Yes, Mick's vocals are annoying to some as he was into shouting and slurring at the time, but that's where he was at and nevertheless, he and the band still rock. The energy and the vibe are well captured and a lot of my personal playlists feature many LYL songs, like If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Around and Around, Sympathy, etc. And although YCAGWYW is perhaps the sloppiest version they could have released, I've always loved Woody's long solo on that one. All in all, it's rock and roll...and I like it! Yes I do!

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I happen to like Love You Live: it has a good sound, albeit sloppy, and is akin to the Stones meeting The Faces.

In truth it was the Stones meeting the Faces, with Ronnie joining.

When you consider the last live album Ronnie played on, i.e. Coast to Coast Overtures and Beginners, it is top quality.Coast to Coast is awful.

What has happened, I think, is that everyone thinks the previously released live album is top drawer, i.e. Ya Yas, and that Love You Live has a tough act to follow. I am sorry, but it's a different band in that Mick Taylor has gone, and Ronnie has arrived. It's probably the best live album, Stripped aside, of the Wood era.

Yes, I also happen to like Love You Live and I remember reading many glowing reviews of it when it came out. At first, I was thrilled to have a brand new live album from the Stones, as I considered that the stage is where they really put out the magic. At the same time, I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something as stellar as Ya Yas. But I realized that this was a different line up, a different era and I embraced the raw semi-sloppy rambunctiousness of it all. In recent times, I sometimes think they Stones may have shot themselves in the foot by doctoring up Ya Yas to such a state of perfection. I was ten when I first heard it and didn't learn till much later that they polished it up with so many overdubs, etc. But a few things had raised my suspicions. When a local TV station first aired Gimme Shelter, I noticed right away that the sound was a lot less polished and wait....where was the glorious Keith-harmonized chorus to Jumping Jack Flash that sounded so similar to the studio version? Same with the much rougher chorus to Honky Tonk Women? I suspect a lot of people may have based their expectations of how the Stones sounded live on Ya Yas. I know more than a few people who went to Stones concerts in that era and complained that they didn't sound as great as they did on Ya Yas. Maybe they shouldn't have polished Ya Yas quite so much. Love You Live is probably a more realistic presentation of the Stones live sound at that time, although I know overdubs were done on LYL as well. Still, I think they did a good job retaining the feel and the rawness that defined a Stones show in '75 - '76. Yes, Mick's vocals are annoying to some as he was into shouting and slurring at the time, but that's where he was at and nevertheless, he and the band still rock. The energy and the vibe are well captured and a lot of my personal playlists feature many LYL songs, like If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Around and Around, Sympathy, etc. And although YCAGWYW is perhaps the sloppiest version they could have released, I've always loved Woody's long solo on that one. All in all, it's rock and roll...and I like it! Yes I do!

I agree with all points also like the solo in ycagwyw

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Yes, I also happen to like Love You Live and I remember reading many glowing reviews of it when it came out. At first, I was thrilled to have a brand new live album from the Stones, as I considered that the stage is where they really put out the magic. At the same time, I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something as stellar as Ya Yas. But I realized that this was a different line up, a different era and I embraced the raw semi-sloppy rambunctiousness of it all. In recent times, I sometimes think they Stones may have shot themselves in the foot by doctoring up Ya Yas to such a state of perfection. I was ten when I first heard it and didn't learn till much later that they polished it up with so many overdubs, etc. But a few things had raised my suspicions. When a local TV station first aired Gimme Shelter, I noticed right away that the sound was a lot less polished and wait....where was the glorious Keith-harmonized chorus to Jumping Jack Flash that sounded so similar to the studio version? Same with the much rougher chorus to Honky Tonk Women? I suspect a lot of people may have based their expectations of how the Stones sounded live on Ya Yas. I know more than a few people who went to Stones concerts in that era and complained that they didn't sound as great as they did on Ya Yas. Maybe they shouldn't have polished Ya Yas quite so much. Love You Live is probably a more realistic presentation of the Stones live sound at that time, although I know overdubs were done on LYL as well. Still, I think they did a good job retaining the feel and the rawness that defined a Stones show in '75 - '76. Yes, Mick's vocals are annoying to some as he was into shouting and slurring at the time, but that's where he was at and nevertheless, he and the band still rock. The energy and the vibe are well captured and a lot of my personal playlists feature many LYL songs, like If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Around and Around, Sympathy, etc. And although YCAGWYW is perhaps the sloppiest version they could have released, I've always loved Woody's long solo on that one. All in all, it's rock and roll...and I like it! Yes I do!

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Yes, I also happen to like Love You Live and I remember reading many glowing reviews of it when it came out. At first, I was thrilled to have a brand new live album from the Stones, as I considered that the stage is where they really put out the magic. At the same time, I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something as stellar as Ya Yas. But I realized that this was a different line up, a different era and I embraced the raw semi-sloppy rambunctiousness of it all. In recent times, I sometimes think they Stones may have shot themselves in the foot by doctoring up Ya Yas to such a state of perfection. I was ten when I first heard it and didn't learn till much later that they polished it up with so many overdubs, etc. But a few things had raised my suspicions. When a local TV station first aired Gimme Shelter, I noticed right away that the sound was a lot less polished and wait....where was the glorious Keith-harmonized chorus to Jumping Jack Flash that sounded so similar to the studio version? Same with the much rougher chorus to Honky Tonk Women? I suspect a lot of people may have based their expectations of how the Stones sounded live on Ya Yas. I know more than a few people who went to Stones concerts in that era and complained that they didn't sound as great as they did on Ya Yas. Maybe they shouldn't have polished Ya Yas quite so much. Love You Live is probably a more realistic presentation of the Stones live sound at that time, although I know overdubs were done on LYL as well. Still, I think they did a good job retaining the feel and the rawness that defined a Stones show in '75 - '76. Yes, Mick's vocals are annoying to some as he was into shouting and slurring at the time, but that's where he was at and nevertheless, he and the band still rock. The energy and the vibe are well captured and a lot of my personal playlists feature many LYL songs, like If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Around and Around, Sympathy, etc. And although YCAGWYW is perhaps the sloppiest version they could have released, I've always loved Woody's long solo on that one. All in all, it's rock and roll...and I like it! Yes I do!

Well, let's crank this topic up yet again. As one who values the musicianship that's evident in Ya-Ya's I get a little uncomfortable when the "YaYa's is overdubbed to death" discussion gets casually tossed around. There are NO instrumental overdubs on YaYa's with the possible exception of a minor one in Carol. Some people have gone to great lengths identify the source materials and do painstaking comparisons. Now vocal overdubs...that's an entirely different story, as 6 of the 10 songs contain them. (And as you note, the vocals on JJF and HW are studio creations, no question. However, songs like Midnight Rambler and Love in Vain contain no overdubs whatsoever, vocal or instrumental.) Chrism42 has done the work on this, so don't take my word for it:

Ya-Ya's sources and overdubs (scroll to bottom for summary)

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I like the vocals on Love You Live, and I like the instrumentation.

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Yes, I also happen to like Love You Live and I remember reading many glowing reviews of it when it came out. At first, I was thrilled to have a brand new live album from the Stones, as I considered that the stage is where they really put out the magic. At the same time, I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something as stellar as Ya Yas. But I realized that this was a different line up, a different era and I embraced the raw semi-sloppy rambunctiousness of it all. In recent times, I sometimes think they Stones may have shot themselves in the foot by doctoring up Ya Yas to such a state of perfection. I was ten when I first heard it and didn't learn till much later that they polished it up with so many overdubs, etc. But a few things had raised my suspicions. When a local TV station first aired Gimme Shelter, I noticed right away that the sound was a lot less polished and wait....where was the glorious Keith-harmonized chorus to Jumping Jack Flash that sounded so similar to the studio version? Same with the much rougher chorus to Honky Tonk Women? I suspect a lot of people may have based their expectations of how the Stones sounded live on Ya Yas. I know more than a few people who went to Stones concerts in that era and complained that they didn't sound as great as they did on Ya Yas. Maybe they shouldn't have polished Ya Yas quite so much. Love You Live is probably a more realistic presentation of the Stones live sound at that time, although I know overdubs were done on LYL as well. Still, I think they did a good job retaining the feel and the rawness that defined a Stones show in '75 - '76. Yes, Mick's vocals are annoying to some as he was into shouting and slurring at the time, but that's where he was at and nevertheless, he and the band still rock. The energy and the vibe are well captured and a lot of my personal playlists feature many LYL songs, like If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Around and Around, Sympathy, etc. And although YCAGWYW is perhaps the sloppiest version they could have released, I've always loved Woody's long solo on that one. All in all, it's rock and roll...and I like it! Yes I do!

Well, let's crank this topic up yet again. As one who values the musicianship that's evident in Ya-Ya's I get a little uncomfortable when the "YaYa's is overdubbed to death" discussion gets casually tossed around. There are NO instrumental overdubs on YaYa's with the possible exception of a minor one in Carol. Some people have gone to great lengths identify the source materials and do painstaking comparisons. Now vocal overdubs...that's an entirely different story, as 6 of the 10 songs contain them. (And as you note, the vocals on JJF and HW are studio creations, no question. However, songs like Midnight Rambler and Love in Vain contain no overdubs whatsoever, vocal or instrumental.) Chrism42 has done the work on this, so don't take my word for it:

Ya-Ya's sources and overdubs (scroll to bottom for summary)

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Yes, I also happen to like Love You Live and I remember reading many glowing reviews of it when it came out. At first, I was thrilled to have a brand new live album from the Stones, as I considered that the stage is where they really put out the magic. At the same time, I was a bit let down as I was hoping for something as stellar as Ya Yas. But I realized that this was a different line up, a different era and I embraced the raw semi-sloppy rambunctiousness of it all. In recent times, I sometimes think they Stones may have shot themselves in the foot by doctoring up Ya Yas to such a state of perfection. I was ten when I first heard it and didn't learn till much later that they polished it up with so many overdubs, etc. But a few things had raised my suspicions. When a local TV station first aired Gimme Shelter, I noticed right away that the sound was a lot less polished and wait....where was the glorious Keith-harmonized chorus to Jumping Jack Flash that sounded so similar to the studio version? Same with the much rougher chorus to Honky Tonk Women? I suspect a lot of people may have based their expectations of how the Stones sounded live on Ya Yas. I know more than a few people who went to Stones concerts in that era and complained that they didn't sound as great as they did on Ya Yas. Maybe they shouldn't have polished Ya Yas quite so much. Love You Live is probably a more realistic presentation of the Stones live sound at that time, although I know overdubs were done on LYL as well. Still, I think they did a good job retaining the feel and the rawness that defined a Stones show in '75 - '76. Yes, Mick's vocals are annoying to some as he was into shouting and slurring at the time, but that's where he was at and nevertheless, he and the band still rock. The energy and the vibe are well captured and a lot of my personal playlists feature many LYL songs, like If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Around and Around, Sympathy, etc. And although YCAGWYW is perhaps the sloppiest version they could have released, I've always loved Woody's long solo on that one. All in all, it's rock and roll...and I like it! Yes I do!

Well, let's crank this topic up yet again. As one who values the musicianship that's evident in Ya-Ya's I get a little uncomfortable when the "YaYa's is overdubbed to death" discussion gets casually tossed around. There are NO instrumental overdubs on YaYa's with the possible exception of a minor one in Carol. Some people have gone to great lengths identify the source materials and do painstaking comparisons. Now vocal overdubs...that's an entirely different story, as 6 of the 10 songs contain them. (And as you note, the vocals on JJF and HW are studio creations, no question. However, songs like Midnight Rambler and Love in Vain contain no overdubs whatsoever, vocal or instrumental.) Chrism42 has done the work on this, so don't take my word for it:

Ya-Ya's sources and overdubs (scroll to bottom for summary)

I still don't understand why Mick sang the JJF overdub 'well it's alllllllllllll-riiiiiiiiiiight' instead of 'well it's alright, yeah it's alright' like he sang it live. That was a thousand times better.