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Do you mean version 4? "Unmixed" would mean...it's not mixed ie it's a rough mix for homework. Playback. Or possibly some things were not in the mix.
http://www.basement-news.de/Buch2/Rec.html
LOL, it's something for higher educated people only. Sorry that you can't read it...
At least he can read standard numbers, but please don't ask him to substract or multiply...
I have no issue, it's other people. Go XIV yerself!
Wrong. ABKCO didn't flood the market with compilations. Decca in England did. That's a different manner. Those compilations like Stoneage, Milestones etc. where only released in EU. America (and ABKCO's territory back in the seventies) only released Hot Rocks, More Hot Rocks & Metamorphosis.
Nice n raw and fresh, but Taylor once again is using a song as an excuse to solo far too much.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 15:20 by His Majesty.
Your lack of taste amazes me.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
hulloder
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Date: January 9, 2012 00:30
You're right
Brown Sugar 5 (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly
audible
sounds better
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-09 00:32 by hulloder.
Brown Sugar 5 (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly
audible
sounds better
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-09 00:32 by hulloder.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
FreeBird
()
Date: January 9, 2012 02:21
What's the deal about version IV being "unmixed" on certain bootlegs? Surely it has to be mixed somehow, given that it's a multitrack recording...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-09 02:23 by FreeBird.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-09 02:23 by FreeBird.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
()
Date: January 9, 2012 03:06
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FreeBird
What's the deal about version IV being "unmixed" on certain bootlegs? Surely it has to be mixed somehow, given that it's a multitrack recording...
Do you mean version 4? "Unmixed" would mean...it's not mixed ie it's a rough mix for homework. Playback. Or possibly some things were not in the mix.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
donvis
()
Date: January 9, 2012 04:24
The previous Weissbuch mentioned Version IV dialogue end mono mix. I know it exists but don't see it listed in this new edition.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
hulloder
()
Date: January 9, 2012 10:09
Thanks midnrambler for pictures 
Where i can buy the hoffmann's book?
Where i can buy the hoffmann's book?
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: January 9, 2012 11:19
Quote
hulloder
Thanks midnrambler for pictures
Where i can buy the hoffmann's book?
http://www.basement-news.de/Buch2/Rec.html
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
muenke
()
Date: January 9, 2012 12:18
There is another not yet discussed version without saxophone-overdubs and completely different lead licks by mick taylor (they sound like overdubs). i have it on some bootleg but don´t know the name right now ... pretty nice one!
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
midnrambler
()
Date: January 9, 2012 13:19
Quote
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Sure. It should say:
- Brown Sugar 5 (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly
audible
Not sure why the Roman Numeral crap is necessary.
LOL, it's something for higher educated people only. Sorry that you can't read it...
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
()
Date: January 9, 2012 13:29
Quote
midnramblerQuote
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Sure. It should say:
- Brown Sugar 5 (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly
audible
Not sure why the Roman Numeral crap is necessary.
LOL, it's something for higher educated people only. Sorry that you can't read it...
At least he can read standard numbers, but please don't ask him to substract or multiply...
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Britney
()
Date: January 9, 2012 16:01
Brown Sugar as found on A Shot Of Salvation and disc four of the Black Box - Special Millenium edition are very similiar but the mix appears to be slightly different as the percussion during the guitarsolo (castanets?) is much more audible on A Shot Of Salvation.
Same goes for 'version IV' as found on the Black Box - Millenium editon (disc 3) and Time Trip 2. Both are very similar to the Sticky Fingers version but they are lacking the echo effect in the intro. The percussion during the guitarsolo is more audible on the Black Box. And, as the Weisbuch states, there is also the mono single mix of Brown Sugar.
www.rsundercover.eu
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Same goes for 'version IV' as found on the Black Box - Millenium editon (disc 3) and Time Trip 2. Both are very similar to the Sticky Fingers version but they are lacking the echo effect in the intro. The percussion during the guitarsolo is more audible on the Black Box. And, as the Weisbuch states, there is also the mono single mix of Brown Sugar.
www.rsundercover.eu
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-01-09 16:36 by Britney.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
()
Date: January 9, 2012 16:39
Quote
Erik_SnowQuote
midnramblerQuote
WeLoveToPlayTheBlues
Sure. It should say:
- Brown Sugar 5 (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, with Bobby Keys on sax, MT hardly
audible
Not sure why the Roman Numeral crap is necessary.
LOL, it's something for higher educated people only. Sorry that you can't read it...
At least he can read standard numbers, but please don't ask him to substract or multiply...
I have no issue, it's other people. Go XIV yerself!
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
NeddieFlanders
()
Date: January 9, 2012 18:27
>This is definitively true! Zentgraf's entries are unfortunately not always accurate. E. g. he does not list a You Can't Always Get... I >at all. It sarts with II.
670209A 9th - 24th February: London, Olympic Sound Studios. Producer:
Andrew Oldham or The Rolling Stones. Sound engineer: Glyn Johns.
- You Can’t Always Get What You Want I (MJ/KR) -22nd February, unverified
very early instrumental version
670209A 9th - 24th February: London, Olympic Sound Studios. Producer:
Andrew Oldham or The Rolling Stones. Sound engineer: Glyn Johns.
- You Can’t Always Get What You Want I (MJ/KR) -22nd February, unverified
very early instrumental version
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
straycat58
()
Date: February 4, 2012 13:20
The version of MJ playing Brown sugar to Ike and Tina in the backstage of MSG on the Nov. 28 should be added to this list as Brown sugar pre-I.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Blueranger
()
Date: February 4, 2012 13:48
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scottkeefQuote
WeLoveToPlayTheBluesQuote
scottkeef
Abkco re-released so much Stones material in so many different compilations The Stones even started puting the disclaimer on their new releases like "This is a new recording, beware of re-packaging" Remember that??
It's been pointed out that the Stones should've done that with their own compilations! They turned into what they railed against.
Dont really get that since other than the 'Hits" pkgs they havent done that...but maybe they were just mad because this was in the 70s and they were still producing an album a year and Abkco was flooding the market with repackaged albums...
Wrong. ABKCO didn't flood the market with compilations. Decca in England did. That's a different manner. Those compilations like Stoneage, Milestones etc. where only released in EU. America (and ABKCO's territory back in the seventies) only released Hot Rocks, More Hot Rocks & Metamorphosis.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
scottkeef
()
Date: February 4, 2012 16:33
If Abkco owned the material then Decca obviously had to have their cooperation to release all those repackages, I assume....
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
straycat58
()
Date: February 5, 2012 11:44
Comparing the April 24, 1970 versions included in Sotheby's Reel and in Time Trip 2, the only difference that I note between version V and VI are the percussions: castanets during the sax solo and maracas at the end of the solo.
Guitar parts sound identical.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 11:45 by straycat58.
Guitar parts sound identical.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 11:45 by straycat58.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: February 5, 2012 12:52
Ampeg version Essen 1970, the best in my book.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
charliesgood
()
Date: February 5, 2012 14:30
I just got the SHM SACD of sticky fingers and Brown sugar intro sounds a little different it starts way low than the guitar kicks in any idea what version is used .Thanks
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 14:31 by charliesgood.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 14:31 by charliesgood.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: February 5, 2012 14:39
Quote
Amsterdamned
Ampeg version Essen 1970, the best in my book.
Nice n raw and fresh, but Taylor once again is using a song as an excuse to solo far too much.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-05 15:20 by His Majesty.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: February 5, 2012 17:54
Quote
His MajestyQuote
Amsterdamned
Ampeg version Essen 1970, the best in my book.
Nice n raw and fresh, but Taylor once again is using a song as an excuse to solo far too much.
Your lack of taste amazes me.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: February 5, 2012 19:47
Quote
Amsterdamned
Your lack of taste amazes me.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: February 5, 2012 19:57
Quote
His MajestyQuote
Amsterdamned
Your lack of taste amazes me.
Re: BROWN SUGAR - ALL VERSIONS
Posted by:
FreeBird
()
Date: February 7, 2012 03:14
It's the same version as always. Maybe the absence of compression is fooling you?Quote
charliesgood
I just got the SHM SACD of sticky fingers and Brown sugar intro sounds a little different it starts way low than the guitar kicks in any idea what version is used .Thanks
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