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His Majesty
If true, they can fuuck right off! ><

Yep, I'll be dis-owning them as a fan. My fandom has been hanging by a thread in the last 4-5 years. I've given Keith the proverbial middle finger many times. Bu if this is true, my bird is flipped right in Mick's face for once.

Do I believe the prices? Well...

In 1994 I paid $60 for 22nd row centre.
In 2005 I paid $350 for 22nd row centre.
In 2010 I will not be paying $1000-$1200 per seat for anyone, anywhere, and I will start encourage anyone I talk to only pirate their stuff illegally to never give them a dime again.

+1

I almost want them to go ahead and charge us $1200 a ticket...see what happens, Mick. Be prepared to be humbled.

They better break out the tarps.

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I was talking to my son-in-law, who now freelances, but at one time worked for a large concert promoter designing stage lighting for big acts. He said the word in the industry is that a tour will happen (I guess no news there) and a promoter has been selected. What I didn't want to hear was that 1) it's just going to be a "run-of-the-mill" Stones tour, and 2) the minimum prices in USA were going to be in the $1,000 - $1,200 range!

Yeah, right.

Presumably they'll be playing living rooms, then.

This same shite happens before every tour. The rumoured prices are in the four-figure range, and then when the shows get announced and you're ONLY paying half of that for nosebleeds, there'll be a collective sigh of relief from people with more money than sense that they'll only be paying $500 to look a video screen.

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Although I am personally disgusted by both the "run of the mill" tag and the outrageous ticket prices, it seems fair that the Rolling Stones charge whatever the market will bear. After all, they built that market more than any other rock band, IMHO.

That being said, for me, this would be the time to call a favor or two to get tickets to this event. I'm not stupid enough to pay $1,200 for a ticket to see these guys doing the same ole run of the mill songs. If they had all the Stone's daughters up there naked doing burlesque I would still have to think about it...peace.

The market WONT bear prices like that. Believe me. And justifying it as 'fair' in a recession is nonsensical.

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They better break out the tarps.

A sea of tarps.

Mick: "Hey howya all doin out theeeerre?"

SILENCE

Geez Gazza that's beer money for you. You will be jet-setting all over the UK with your press pass.

The pile of rumors is right over there. You can place yours with the others.

First, I think someone in the Stones company is floating pricing ideas to see what kind of blowback they get. I'm with Gazza that many will be happy to pay 500 instead of 1000 per ticket. However, not me this time.

Second, I just don't see a regular tour schedule. Maybe the tickets could be 1,000 and up for a special engagement tour wherin they hold residency in major markets and have Wyman and Taylor for the whole show. Maybe and only maybe could this work. It ain't gonna happen in Kansas City, Indianapolis, or even Denver. Flyover country won't pay that much.

But a package deal with a pre-show party, seats in the first 20 rows and a lottery to meet the band backstage for a photo in NYC or Chicago with Buddy Guy and others opening. Well, then maybe I'd go.

Psst, did you get all that Stones, Inc.?

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First, I think someone in the Stones company is floating pricing ideas to see what kind of blowback they get. I'm with Gazza that many will be happy to pay 500 instead of 1000 per ticket. However, not me this time.

Second, I just don't see a regular tour schedule. Maybe the tickets could be 1,000 and up for a special engagement tour wherin they hold residency in major markets and have Wyman and Taylor for the whole show. Maybe and only maybe could this work. It ain't gonna happen in Kansas City, Indianapolis, or even Denver. Flyover country won't pay that much.

But a package deal with a pre-show party, seats in the first 20 rows and a lottery to meet the band backstage for a photo in NYC or Chicago with Buddy Guy and others opening. Well, then maybe I'd go.

Psst, did you get all that Stones, Inc.?

The market will not bear 1200 per ticket in the US. I doubt it will even bear $450. You are talking quarter full venues, not even half empty.

With ticket prices > 1.000 USD the stadiums will be more empty than it already was in 2005-2007. With the bad economy in EU / US, it will not hold that price level - not possible at all.

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I was talking to my son-in-law, who now freelances, but at one time worked for a large concert promoter designing stage lighting for big acts. He said the word in the industry is that a tour will happen (I guess no news there) and a promoter has been selected. What I didn't want to hear was that 1) it's just going to be a "run-of-the-mill" Stones tour, and 2) the minimum prices in USA were going to be in the $1,000 - $1,200 range! Has anyone heard anything like this? He hadn't heard anything about Wyman or Taylor hitting the stage, but he figures if that happens, even if just walk-ons for a few songs, that supports the prices he's hearing about. He also mentioned summer 2012 or Spring 2013 for the tour to happen. Thoughts?

If they tour, I'm sure tix will not be cheap but I doubt they'll be that high. Even the greedy Stones know most people will not be able to afford that.

The Stones ticket drama comes in two parts: 1) the high prices and 2) the scalpers nabbing all the tickets.

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The Stones ticket drama comes in two parts: 1) the high prices and 2) the scalpers nabbing all the tickets.

...and when it doesn't sell, have the scalper subsidize your great seats!

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With ticket prices > 1.000 USD the stadiums will be more empty than it already was in 2005-2007. With the bad economy in EU / US, it will not hold that price level - not possible at all.

Any band thats so removed from reality that they're charging those kind of prices deserves to be playing to two men and a dog.

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With ticket prices > 1.000 USD the stadiums will be more empty than it already was in 2005-2007. With the bad economy in EU / US, it will not hold that price level - not possible at all.

Any band thats so removed from reality that they're charging those kind of prices deserves to be playing to two men and a dog.

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Abso-f$%&ing-lutley. Like I said before. If they do that then I'm putting my ENTIRE Stones collection up for pirates to have a field day. I will be renouncing my fandom of them for good.

[thepowergoats.com]

Even if they play a 3,200 arena at $1500 a seat. It will still sell out. Alot of rich people still around.

I somehow doubt they'll be aiming a 50th anniversary tour at casinos and theatres.

Its not quite going to be the splash they're looking for.

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Even if they play a 3,200 arena at $1500 a seat. It will still sell out. Alot of rich people still around.

Even a 3,597 arena at $1500 a seat will sell out...?

It might happen in about 3 or 4 cities in the US....and thats it.

Looks like a pretty short tour, then.

One week long!

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It might happen in about 3 or 4 cities in the US....and thats it.

Looks like a pretty short tour, then.

One week long!

Like I'd said, they 're pushing 70.

Maybe this makes sense actually. And it would make it easier for us lowly mortals to pass on it.

[thepowergoats.com]

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But a package deal with a pre-show party, seats in the first 20 rows and a lottery to meet the band backstage for a photo in NYC or Chicago with Buddy Guy and others opening. Well, then maybe I'd go.

Psst, did you get all that Stones, Inc.?

Now you're talking. I'd throw in a signed by band Fender Telecaster and a chance for qualified players to get on the Stones stage and add some hungry notes to the sea of affluenza that surrounds the shows. A Willy Wonka wish kinda thing. Whoo Hoo!

Actually a new relatively unknown warm up act for every show , primarily from the area where the show is held would be delightful...nothing at all against Buddy Guy, he is the real deal, one of the few left still playing very well. peace.



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If true, I will only buy the 3D DVD of the Tour and ask people here to sign a petition to get free 3D glasses included in the DVD box.

HMN



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If true, I will only buy the 3D DVD of the Tour and ask people here to sign a petition to get free 3D glasses included in the DVD box.

I think people are still waiting for DVDs from previous tours.

So, if i have this right:
1) a tour will happen (most likely)
2) it's going to be run of the mill
3) ticket prices in the USA 1,000 plus
4) Wyman and Taylor; maybe, maybe not
5) if they do perform, it justifies the prices

Well then:
1) would love to see them live once more - no question
2) would love to see them live once more - regardless of the set (however, it would be nice to see them really give the fans something special)
3) no live act justifies those prices - the last 2 LA shows i picked up floor seats for 175 and 125, respectfully because they were already too expensive then and couldn't sell tickets
4) i really don't care
5) Mick Taylor was just at Pappy n Harriet's, Joshua Tree, CA - how do these two men justify raising face value by more than double?

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First, I think someone in the Stones company is floating pricing ideas to see what kind of blowback they get. I'm with Gazza that many will be happy to pay 500 instead of 1000 per ticket. However, not me this time.

Second, I just don't see a regular tour schedule. Maybe the tickets could be 1,000 and up for a special engagement tour wherin they hold residency in major markets and have Wyman and Taylor for the whole show. Maybe and only maybe could this work. It ain't gonna happen in Kansas City, Indianapolis, or even Denver. Flyover country won't pay that much.

But a package deal with a pre-show party, seats in the first 20 rows and a lottery to meet the band backstage for a photo in NYC or Chicago with Buddy Guy and others opening. Well, then maybe I'd go.

Psst, did you get all that Stones, Inc.?

Yeah I'm sure they'll put together some sort of package deals to try and get the highest dollar. Everybody is doing that kind od stuff these days and Stones inc know marketing as well as anybody.

those prices are ridiculous i mean is this the stones or babs?

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I would love to see the Stones go back to basic even if it was a shorter concert..

You know drop the 3 or 4 back up singers and just keep 1...No big Horn section---Just Keep Bobby Keys.
Have Keith sing more back up.
And have Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman go out on tour with the Stones..

Then we have a new Stones show we can all love!!

Yeah! More than a few of us would like that a lot. Is it probable or even possible? That's another story.

~"Love is Strong"~

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I find that hard to believe, and if they did charge such prices in the UK they would have the embarrassment of half empty venues and they'd also be slaughtered byt he media. If this is the last tour, and I'm fairly certain it will be, then they should do something for the fans and cut the prices. By doing this they would sell out more venues, increase interest and sell more cd;s, tour merchandise and leave everybody buzzing and remembering them for their music. It would be very sad for them to go out exploiting the fans who have stood by them and kept them in the spotlight. @#$%& it, they should be playing for £10 and a whole series of free open air shows - go out with a bang (but please dont play anything from a Bigger Bang!

Best post in the thread.

This was posted in another thread, and explains how prices are set these
days, for all artists. And how very expensive seats upfront are often
accompanied by very cheap prices for the less desirable seats.

(Excerpted from musicweek dot com, discussing the current near-auction method of
setting ticket prices. Actually we have long referred to this as "airline pricing"
and believe it was in more or less full effect for the Bigger Bang tour, utilizing
ticket brokers as part of the system. Many artists and fans for some reason found
this objectionable. So now all they've done is put it all aboveboard and suddenly
all these self-righteous performers have no problem with it. Go figure.)

Live Nation: Artists happy with premium ‘dynamic’ ticket prices

November 4, 2011

By Tim Ingham

Ticketmaster owner Live Nation has claimed that major music artists and their
managers are coming round to the idea of premium ‘Dynamic’ ticket prices after
initial scepticism.

The live music giant announced the concept of Dynamic Pricing in April. The
engine, powered by analytics from Marketshare, allows clients to set and adjust
prices for their live events based on fan demand.

The initiative replaces the concept of the ‘Golden Circle’ – where a select few
of the best seats in the house would be priced at a very high premium.

“Artist acceptance of [Dynamic Pricing] is in my opinion running ahead of
schedule,” Live Nation executive chairman Irving Azoff told investors. “[Artists
and managers] in the old days didn’t even want us to do Golden Circle: ‘Oh,
don’t do $500 for the first five rows.’

“When [that] becomes Dynamic Pricing, we can say to an artist: ‘Hey, your fans
are telling… our computers how to reprice the seats,’ it seems much more
defendable by artists when they have to do an interview about why their ticket
prices are so high.

“They can say: ‘Hey, we set up dynamic prices – we didn’t determine those
prices, the fans did.’”

Azoff said that all current contracts for acts to play Live Nation’s
Amphitheaters next year included a clause detailing Dynamic Pricing. After
LiveNation CEO Michael Rappino told investors that beta tests of the system had
performed “very well” in the sporting arena – but that “selling it to sports
teams is a lot easier [than to music artists], Azoff added:

“I think Michael is being a little more cautious than he has to be. In terms of
adoption rate, at least [with] my front line acts every one of the Ampitheatre
offers contained requests for dynamic pricing and there hasn’t been one that’s
been turned down yet.”

Also this:

"With a famous band such as the Eagles", said Irving Azoff, executive chairman of
Live Nation, "they love the idea that people that never saw us get to see us now
for $25, and that's basically only happening because the front rows are able to
make up for what we lose in the far away seats."

One undeniably good thing is that it makes selling out a venue much more likely.
Even if the people up front are paying a thousand, the people way back may be
only paying an hour's wages.



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I have heard the exact OPPOSITE of this rumour from a friend who is in regular contact with the big promoters here in Oz.

He told me the word is that the Stones will play 6 free shows in different parts of the world as a 'Thank You' for fifty years, and that they are looking for sponsors for the events.

This makes sense as Bill has been with them, but doesn't want to tour, Charlie appears to have little interest in a 2 year mega tour, and we are not sure Keith is up to it. It also means that they are not touring on the back of a new album - it has been confirmed that there will be a documentary and possibly archive/re release to mark the 50th.

I am willing to travel to see as many of the shows, but I doubt they will work in the way RIO did - too much demand, and if it happens, i'm assuming the tickets will be a ballot in the way Live 8 was. (Surely Hyde Park would be a certain venue?)

Where are all the cheerleaders with their "Twelve hundred dollars is perfectly reasonable price to pay for our boys" posts?