Reckon this version goes good!
*disclaimer : no keith

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excellent version, showing off dave stewart at his most keithy

the version played on mick's australian tour is also excellent

the lyrics are about how because the mass audience's values were changing
from musical passion to money and success that mick and the stones were
being forced to do likewise

You used to be my party doll
But now you want to live in clover
You used to be my number one
But now those salad days are over

Times change but fascination stays
Love wins but the passion just fades
I'll drink to the dancing days
I'll drink to your crazy ways



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Love the harmonica work..then both acknowledge that it went down well ! Ha

so, really, when you think about it, mick is kinda setting out
his entire business plan for the "vegas" years in this lovely
bittersweet little tune

bittersweet indeed....so sad that the Stones didn't get to record this little gem themselves...

gentle stab back for Keefs -- You Don't Move Me .....



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gentle stab back for Keefs -- You Don't Move Me .....

that's a generally held opinion but it doesnt really make sense.
it wasnt keith who didnt wanna rock out totally anymore, it wasnt
keith who wanted to live in clover (money/financial security), it
was the larger audience

yeah the cult of bill german was on keith's side ("mick is just an
egotistical greedy control freak"), but mick had his eye on the overall
picture, what michael jackson and financial trends were doing to the market,
so mick knew the stones had to adapt long before the rest of us had a clue

enter michael cohl stage right...



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Hey yeah man if that's what ya believe then ride with it...

To me it's always felt like a sling at Keith for settling into
a slightly more domesticated way of life ....

Heck with a slight twist you could say its aimed at Jerry Hall ...



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yeah the cult of bill german was on keith's side ("mick is just an
egotistical greedy control freak"), but mick had his eye on the overall
picture, what michael jackson and financial trends were doing to the market,
so mick knew the stones had to adapt long before the rest of us had a clue

enter michael cohl stage right...

Personally, I love the song a lot and it was cut a year before Keith had "You Don't Move Me." That said, interpretations are just that and everyone gets what they want from a work of art. However, I'll take exception to "the cult of Bill German" charge.

Bill was a big fan of "Just Another Night" in his review of SHE'S THE BOSS he said Jeff Beck's guitar work would write it's own page in rock history. He also thought that Mick's first solo album played to all of his strengths. Where did that change? When Mick toured solo and 3/4 of the songs were Stones songs. How vicious were his attacks on Mick? He suggested if he were going to do old Stones songs, Mick should just tour with the Stones. Not exactly vile.

The reality is if you look at Bill's book, UNDER THEIR THUMB, while he was closest to Ronnie and Keith, Jane Rose found his relatively free hand to report as he liked to be more of an irritation than anything else. Now Bill German aside, I agree with revvy that Mick got there first in recognizing their days of turning out hit singles were rapidly ending and a different model and approach to touring was needed to stay on top.

That said, crediting Mick with Michael Cohl isn't correct. Bill Graham handled Mick's solo tour while Cohl handled Keith's tour. Cohl was a friend and a "brother"" who proved himself at the El Mocambo and during Keith's bust. His re-entry into their world came via Keith and the first Winos tour.

All these seemingly unrelated incidents appear to have been fortuitous. When I last posted here, there was criticism against those of us who suggested things were anything but coincidental in their life-changing trajectories. The truth is likely that it is foolish to believe a Mick-Keith dichotomy exists. They project it and use it well. They're also aligned closely.

Look what happens to people who choose sides thinking they're winning over one by a show of loyalty. They end up cast aside. Success is charting a safe course between them both. They love to hate one another and hate to love one another. They're inseparable Twins. They're more alike than their public images suggest.

it was cut a year before Keith had "You Don't Move Me."

Whhhhoooeee Bill it was too … always thought it was after … my mistake



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at Voodoo Philly I was thrown together by happenstance with a bunch of
Bill German's crew. Bill German came over to where we were (ten rows ahead
of him, in the tenth row) to shoot the shit before the show started.
The viciousness with which they attacked Jagger staggered me. Literally
ten times worse than how German has spoken publically about Mick, which
i was already less than pleased about

And I wasnt crediting Mick with Cohl. I was crediting the times, and that
Mick was hip to what was needed. Cohl just was in the right place at the
right time and went for it. Gaining Keith's trust was obviously very
important.

And the notion that there wasnt hugely bad feelings between mick and keith
during the 80s, that it was all a strategy, nonsense. it BECAME a strategy
(to a certain extent), once theyd gotten past the worst of it, and they
realized how much the public loved the feud, but it was very real for quite
a few years, and German made it very clear, to me anyway, that he thought
jagger was a total @#$%& and, quite literally, the cause of 100% of the
Stones problems

having kept my mouth shut during all this, i was invited to a gathering
of the germans in a local hotel, but it was my fourth Voodoo show
(too many for me) and i just wanted to go home. but i should have went
to the party, just for history reasons.

all that said, nice to see you again, mr. Dijon, i've missed you



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Interesting as always, revvy. I've never had the pleasure of meeting Mr. German face-to-face. He was kind enough to write me a couple of encouraging notes when I was a high school kid subscribing to his publications. They meant a lot to me at the time and still do. I made contact with him again years later. We've exchanged emails. I like him a great deal and think he's a genuinely good guy who had an amazing experience for a number of years. He documented an interesting period from a perspective no one else could. I'm loyal to a point. It's a flaw with me.