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"I find it quite amusing that there are people in the world who spend a lot of their time trying to decode something that is, at the end of the day, completely undecodable. I mean, even I’ve forgotten the code!”
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wonderboy
Never heard that Beast of Burden story before.
Always read it was about getting clean and not being a burden to Mick anymore.
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Palace Revolution 2000
I do believe the world has become WAY too PC; and yes it is Keith telling the story, BUT - I don't dig it when women are called 'bitch', just as a noun.
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wonderboy
Never heard that Beast of Burden story before.
Always read it was about getting clean and not being a burden to Mick anymore.
This is another example of Keith acting like he's black. It's very cringe-worthy.Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
I do believe the world has become WAY too PC; and yes it is Keith telling the story, BUT - I don't dig it when women are called 'bitch', just as a noun.
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Bliss
He's left out a couple of relevant details about Gimme Shelter, which he stated elsewhere.
- The intro to GS was inspired by the intro to The Twilight Zone.
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- They had originally booked Bonnie Raitt as the female vocalist, but she was ill so they called Merry Clayton as a replacement.
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Bliss
He's left out a couple of relevant details about Gimme Shelter, which he stated elsewhere.
- The intro to GS was inspired by the intro to The Twilight Zone.
Twilight Zone
- They had originally booked Bonnie Raitt as the female vocalist, but she was ill so they called Merry Clayton as a replacement.
IIRC, he also once stated that it is just a variation on the intro to Under My Thumb.
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What a great photo...he really looks fantastic...
I think that was more down to some really blatant Photoshopping. They smoothed his features out to such a degree that he looked like a mannequin. Not sure you can pin that on Leibowitz.Quote
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keefriff99
What a great photo...he really looks fantastic...
... with B&W analog/film. Digital tends to give a "plastic" look to people. The Annie Leibowitz shoot for Vuitton was particularly appaling in that respect.
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Bliss
He's left out a couple of relevant details about Gimme Shelter, which he stated elsewhere.
- The intro to GS was inspired by the intro to The Twilight Zone.
Twilight Zone
- They had originally booked Bonnie Raitt as the female vocalist, but she was ill so they called Merry Clayton as a replacement.
IIRC, he also once stated that it is just a variation on the intro to Under My Thumb.
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wonderboy
Never heard that Beast of Burden story before.
Always read it was about getting clean and not being a burden to Mick anymore.
He was on heroin when they recorded Some Girls.
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wonderboy
Never heard that Beast of Burden story before.
Always read it was about getting clean and not being a burden to Mick anymore.
Never read that before.
In fact with lyrics like the following, that thought never even crossed my mind:
"All I want is for you to make love to me"
"So let's go home and draw the curtains"
"Come on baby make sweet love to me"
"Such a pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Come on baby please, please, please"
Seems Keith is correct when saying "Some of the theories surrounding it are very intriguing, but they’re about as divorced from reality as can be".
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wonderboy
Never heard that Beast of Burden story before.
Always read it was about getting clean and not being a burden to Mick anymore.
Never read that before.
In fact with lyrics like the following, that thought never even crossed my mind:
"All I want is for you to make love to me"
"So let's go home and draw the curtains"
"Come on baby make sweet love to me"
"Such a pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Come on baby please, please, please"
Seems Keith is correct when saying "Some of the theories surrounding it are very intriguing, but they’re about as divorced from reality as can be".
Well, it's Keith himself that floated that theory.
From timeisonourside.com:
'Actually, if anything, I was trying to say sorry to Mick for passing on the weight of running this band. We were at the stage where we were getting bigger. The whole music business was getting bigger, and I was basically trying to say to Mick: You don't have to do it on your own... No(, he didn't listen). He very rarely does. That's why I love him.... At the time Mick was getting used to running the band. Charlie was just the drummer. I was just the other guitar player. I was trying to say, OK, I'm back, so let's share a bit more of this power, share the weight, brother.'
I kinda believe that version of the story, with Keith coming up with the title and some phrases and then Mick turning it into a song about a bitch, as Keith would say.
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wonderboy
Never heard that Beast of Burden story before.
Always read it was about getting clean and not being a burden to Mick anymore.
He was on heroin when they recorded Some Girls.
Yes, but he had started the process of getting clean. He'd gotten some treatment but then relapsed. (Again, just based on the memory of what I've read.) Before they make me run is also on that album.
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Deltics
SWEET BLACK ANGEL
“This one started as an island-lilt sort of thing when we were in Jamaica"
When was this?