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Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: April 11, 2017 17:10

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He and the band minus Bill used coke already in the 60s. Of course you can use coke when youre an heroin addict. Keith took that to new levels after he quit heroin.
I'm sure they used coke and speed to deal with the grind of near nonstop touring, but after Keith got off smack, he replaced it with industrial quantities of alcohol and cocaine.

Nonstop touring?
Not if you look at the schedules of BB King and Dylan as a comparison, for example.
After Spring 1967, the band have always enjoyed long lay offs between tours....add to that the high end accomodation and tour support at your beck and call.
Not exactly a grind!
Any musician will tell you it's hard to get "up" for every show, particularly on back-to-back nights with touring, partying, lack of sleep.

King and Dylan play, they don't exactly perform. .

Well, have to disagree with you on a couple of levels, particularly as B.B. passed away a couple of years ago.
Well they didn't perform one large stages with the degree of athleticism that Mick and (sometimes) Keith display...how about that?

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: April 12, 2017 05:34

"...talkin' heroin with the president, it's a problem sir but..."
as long as we're on page 9 or so about smack...
we know bits about Keith, Charlie, Jimmy Miller, Mick Taylor; one supposes not Bill, but wut about that other guy? not meaning Ron; all i've heard about there is smoking coke and tons of alchol but he is keith jr...

....well i dunno how much of this is ghost written or sensationalized; and I do not know Jerry at all, tho I'd trust a Texan to tell it straight generally speaking; all i know is just some interviews and appearances over the years that the public has been privvy to...so no insider w info enough fatual info to say what's embellished or may be pretty straight true here...nor really the personal authority to say it does sound like her,,,,but it kinda does to me...
...and it IS the Daily Mail, that bastion of integrous journalism...but i think they are mostly excerpting from her book, which i have not read....
but anyway, for your inspection and/or amusement:
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'I got Mick Jagger to quit heroin... but I could never get him to give up GIRLS': Jerry Hall reveals....'
[www.dailymail.co.uk]
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gosh i qualifed that ten ways from sunday not wanting to be unfair or add to the rumor mill; but i'd think it would be like @#$%& crazy to think at some point or another, thru one means or another, maybe just the smoke as Jerry is inferring, but Mick ain't no angel...i'm guessing it's not the kind of thing you do ONCE if u like it...i'm afraid of it myself...always have been; lost some friends early on...

...this piece actually almost hurt in a weird way; reading her take on his sexual proclivities as more of an out of control 'conditon' needing counseling rather than the care-free fun-lovin' heavily and intentionally publicicized sexy bucaneer Mick likes to project, and we like to project our own stuff on...i mean their whole image from the tongue to the hard on on sf cover and etc..."love is the drug' and all that...well the man did write "Cocksmucker Blues," charming lyrics there.
so maybe this is 'how did MICK Kick Heroin?'



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Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 12, 2017 10:14

ronnie smoked heroin (yes he said so himself) and the story is that they were all on smack in the mid 70s. Mick sure looked and sounded like it in 75-77.

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 12, 2017 10:16

Mick gavs it up because he is Mick Jagger. He changes.

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: wonderboy ()
Date: April 12, 2017 15:39

I think Keith resents that Mick did drugs without the bad publicity and the arrests.
Also think Keith believes Mick's 'addiction' to women was worse than his drug activities (he wouldn't say addiction, probably.)

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Date: April 12, 2017 15:42

Mick did get the publicity and was indeed arrested because of drugs..

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: wonderboy ()
Date: April 12, 2017 15:45

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Mick did get the publicity and was indeed arrested because of drugs..

Not saying that resentment makes sense.
Mick didn't get hounded quite so much, though. Keith was always being blackmailed. I don't know. Keith sometimes gets me to feel sorry for him, then I have to remember he brought most of it on himself.

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: April 12, 2017 16:35

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I think Keith resents that Mick did drugs without the bad publicity and the arrests.
Also think Keith believes Mick's 'addiction' to women was worse than his drug activities (he wouldn't say addiction, probably.)

Keith does not come across as a resentful type.

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Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: April 12, 2017 16:58

Ugh, I can't believe I'm going to type this, but my loyalty to my favorite singer I cannot help.
Here's my honest opinion
Sex addition is very ugly (no experience!) but for a man, it's not having love affairs. Love affairs are different than sex addiction.
And Jerry Hall herself has said: beautiful intelligent woman constantly present themselves
Traveling the world, probably most famous person in the world
there is no sorid nasty back alley w/ strangers addicted to porn proceed to trying to get more more more rooms full of people depths into helll
No, he is not addicted. My opinion.

Re: How Did Keith Kick Heroin?
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: April 12, 2017 23:02

Paul McCartney has had the same pressures as Mick and Keith...maybe he has just handled it better. Of course he (and Linda) certainly had a liking for weed....and was busted ?3 times. Not far off Keith's 'harassment' then?

As for Mick and his ladies. Again Macca must have had the same temptations....perhaps he was just 'more in love' with Linda than Mick ever was with his various partners. Or Mick just isn't the type to be faithful to one person. Not sure I would define that as an addiction, however.

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