Baby, You're Too Much





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Recording date(s):

1985-01-15 Pathé-Marconi Studios, Boulogne-Billancourt, Paris

Available on the following bootleg(s):


[1488] HAMNGBIRD DISASTER 01:39 SHAVED DISC
[1572] GLIMMER TWIN'S PRIVATE TAPES 01:44 Weeping Goat
[1900] Little Boy Blue & The Blue Boys vs. The Lone Ranger 05:06 No Label
[1137] 1985-04-08 Pathé-Marconi Studios, Boulogne-Billancourt, Paris
[964] Jamming With Stu 05:11 A Vinyl Gang Product
[974] In the Eighties 05:23 Invasion Unlimited
[1072] HIGH TEMPERATURE 05:05 A Vinyl Gang Product
[1075] Stricktry Works - Unknown Dirtiest Works 05:19 SHAVED DISC
[1406] CRUSHED PEARLS 05:14 Mighty Diamonds
[1478] ALTERNATE DIRTY WORK 05:05 No Label
[3417] THE REAL ALTERNATE ALBUM - DIRTY WORK 05:11 Red Tongue Records
[876] 1985-07-16 RPM Studios, New York City, NY
[531] Dirtiest Work 05:10 King Kong Products
[865] Dirty Workout 05:12 A Vinyl Gang Product
[957] CRUSHED PEARL 05:20 A Vinyl Gang Product
[963] Back To Zero 05:12 DOG n CAT Records
[1478] ALTERNATE DIRTY WORK 05:13 No Label
[1478] ALTERNATE DIRTY WORK 05:13 No Label
[1511] MEAN-LEAN-HITS 05:12 DOG n CAT RECORDS
[1532] DIRTY WORK SESSIONS 05:10 Rogue
[1580] STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART 05:23 Melody
[1998] DIRTIEST WORK 05:19 King Kong Products
[2078] DIRTY WORK DEMOS 05:08 Klub Musik
[2251] BACK TO ZERO 05:31 GARAGE RECORDS


Thanks to dbboots.com and NZentgraf for the info

What are your thoughts on this track?

The outtakes from the DW sessions really show that there was much better material that had been jump started, and that lay waiting. Obviously Jagger did not want to spend the time developing songs. Its a pity.
And it had to be Jagger - that's another thing the outtakes show.
I wonder if it was these lengthy sessions of Keith and Woody working with Covay and Womack, where he got into the way he likes to produce his backing vocals. All over his solo stuff with the Winos, and on his B2B, VL, SW, tracks he has this very dominating, busy, wordless style the he likes to employ.

Really agree with Palace. There are great outtakes from DW. Tracks with Covay and Womack, that would have made DW so much better.

and.. yeah, baby is one of the gems, imo.
jeroen

Great track, Keith's best DW outtake IMHO and apparently it was worked on until B2B, unless that was another song under the same title.

What's funny is that Covay sounded a lot like Mick (or the other way round) and what everyone took for Mick on Invitation is in fact Don Covay! Dawned on me a couple of years ago and experts agreed ;-)

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

Baby, You're Too Much (For Me) is a great outtake, but not a great song especially lyric wise.
After working on it for years The Stones realised this and it was put away in the vaults.

There are some better Dirty Work Outtakes but not much:

Strictly Memphis (sounds finished)
Crushed Pearl
What Am I Gonna Do With Your Love
Victor Hugo...
Treat Me Like A Fool
Talk is Cheap...



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Victor Hugo, hehe

Cut Your Throat

Cut Your Throat was in the same mood as Can't Cut The Mustard sung by Ronnie which turned into ... HAD IT WITH YOU. One of the highlights on the Dirty Work album.

There were a lot of angry and negative (working) titles at the time...

FIGHT
DIRTY WORK
WINNING UGLY
Some Of Us Are On Our Knees
Stick It Where It Hurts

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DandelionPowderman
Victor Hugo, hehe

This is a raw embryo song by Keith with great piano by STU.
Charlie joining in halfway the song.

Could have been a classic...!

Edit: To me it is a classic outtake.



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RipThisBone

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DandelionPowderman
Victor Hugo, hehe

This is a raw embryo song by Keith with great piano by STU.
Charlie joining in halfway the song.

Could have been a classic...!

Edit: To me it is a classic outtake.

Love it, too, but I wouldn't call the lyrics finished or more evolved

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DandelionPowderman

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RipThisBone

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DandelionPowderman
Victor Hugo, hehe

This is a raw embryo song by Keith with great piano by STU.
Charlie joining in halfway the song.

Could have been a classic...!

Edit: To me it is a classic outtake.

Love it, too, but I wouldn't call the lyrics finished or more evolved

Agreed, but the lyrics of VICTOR HUGO are more heartfelt and to the point in 1 take than the lyrics and music of Baby You Are Too Much For Me ( Choir joining: yeah yeah) after years and years of new takes...zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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Palace Revolution 2000
The outtakes from the DW sessions really show that there was much better material that had been jump started, and that lay waiting. Obviously Jagger did not want to spend the time developing songs. Its a pity.

What's really pitiful is that without Mick Keef only had song embryos that had next to no appeal (except for us IORR crowd).
In 1985 Keef must have bitterly discovered he needed Mick badly to turn his rough demos into one might call Stones songs.

Keef couldn't reach Mick so he relied on Ronnie and Chuck's skills... the result was the band's worst album ever.

It sounded really good to start with but I gave up after the 97th "too much".

The take on Little Boy Blue... is a different version.

Backing could be trimmed down but always thought of the main vocal as Keith doin' a Don & Phil on his own ...



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