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Gazza
It's a sad state of affairs that with the world being in the state its in at the moment that we're actually pondering whether a band who earned an average gross of $4 million in ticket sales alone per show on their last tour can be bothered working for 2 hours at a time if they don't make more than that...

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Send It To me
Stones tickets are inelastic - it's like health care, education, and food. They are a necessity. Gouged!

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Gazza

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Send It To me
Stones tickets are inelastic - it's like health care, education, and food. They are a necessity. Gouged!

Only if you're totally desperate !

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Rip This
put out a decent record...hire Rick Rubin for Christ sake (the new RHCP album is amazing!).....the only producer as big as they are......who can really get something out of them by directly challenging them....and they'll break any and every concert record known to man....recent article on Rick Rubin and what he's done...the article is titled:


THE AGE OF RICK RUBIN: He Made Half The Records You've Ever Bought And Billions For The Music Industry



[www.businessinsider.com]

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bv
His smokescreen reason was Charlie... gives him some time...

It will probably take me hours to figure out the message in this statement.

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bv
His smokescreen reason was Charlie... gives him some time...

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Long John Stoner
I believe him. They're done. They haven't written or recorded together for 6-7 years now. The last live show was over four years ago. Jagger turns 69 halfway through 2012, Richards 69 at the end of 2012, Watts will be 71 halfway through, Wood will be 65 halfway through, Wyman, if he were to participate, would be 76 in late 2012. Come on, already. They're mining the past for product to sell. What have any of them done lately to even remotely suggest even a few shows just to commemorate the 50th, much less a tour, is going to happen?

Let the group known as the Rolling Stones go gently into the good night. It's what most of them seem to want to do.

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nocomment
This question was asked on a related thread, and got zero replies.

1) Is there an offer from Cohl or LiveNation or both or someone else on the table?

2) If not, that is, if Mick is telling the truth, is it more a general economic
thing or specifically a "too risky" thing in terms of the health of some
of the members? remember, bono's back boo-boo has cost that tour almost all of
its profits, according to some reports.

3) assuming again that Mick truths when he says he doesnt know what will happen,
considering that the stones, if they want, have already gone out with a
considerable Bang, does it make any sense at all, from THEIR perspective, not
yours, to now instead go out with a whimper?

we know we are sometime fcukwits, but we are really trying to understand what
the fcuk is going on.

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DragonSky
You mean to tell me his cards aren't on the table? They usually are aren't they?

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Max'sKansasCity

c'mon Max, you too. Spill or speculate.

Just saying
He may have said there are no cards on the table,
he didnt say anything about up his sleeve...

I sure dont know any inside scoop, except from what some supposed "insiders" have tried to post on this board... and usually these newer people are BLASTED THE FK outta here, made fun of, etc etc.... when they were just offering tips... I didnt judge them, or make fun of them, I just read what they said

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Gazza

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Gazza
In a word - no.

think at some point, you mentioned that some specifics might be forthcoming
shortly. do you have further info now, even if you can't share it?

I dont recall saying THAT, to be honest!

My understanding is that the band have agreed to tour in 2012. However, I'd be a liar if I claimed to know any details beyond that.

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melillo
of course something has been offered and of course something is on the table it would be more absurd if that wasnt the case

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bv
His smokescreen reason was Charlie... gives him some time...

It will probably take me hours to figure out the message in this statement.

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nocomment
This question was asked on a related thread, and got zero replies.

1) Is there an offer from Cohl or LiveNation or both or someone else on the table?

2) If not, that is, if Mick is telling the truth, is it more a general economic
thing or specifically a "too risky" thing in terms of the health of some
of the members? remember, bono's back boo-boo has cost that tour almost all of
its profits, according to some reports.

3) assuming again that Mick truths when he says he doesnt know what will happen,
considering that the stones, if they want, have already gone out with a
considerable Bang, does it make any sense at all, from THEIR perspective, not
yours, to now instead go out with a whimper?

we know we are sometime fcukwits, but we are really trying to understand what
the fcuk is going on.

The answer is:

Live Nation sued its former chairman, Michael Cohl, in November last year for the sum of $5.35 million (£3.3 million), saying that Mr Cohl breached the terms of an agreement he signed when he left the company, detailing how the pair would compete for bids in the future. Mr Cohl has now hit back at the promoters, saying they in fact broke the terms of the deal first, by hindering his attempts to claim the rights to a possible Rolling Stones "50th"year celebration tour.
Under the terms of the deal, Mr Cohl was said to be required to pay $9.85 million in instalments to Live Nation, which would allow him to keep working with the Stones,However, Live Nation claimed this sum was not paid. The lawsuit also reveals Mick Jagger and Keith Richards know about the disagreement and have no desire to be associated with it.

Stones are no longer working with Cohl nor with Live Nation. They are free...and floating in the air.

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melillo
I bet the book and the todger comment were all part of the master plan

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TeddyB1018
For those of you worried about Keith, the band hasn't toured without a safety net in 30 years.

No kidding. This band stopped "needing" Keith in a musical sense years ago. For the "next tour" (believe it when I see it), he could still take the stage with a stringless prop guitar, ala Elvis in the 50's, and we'd all get our dose of luvable ole Keef. Actually, that wouldn't be too much different than last tour.

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Sam Spade
I'd say wait til late Spring 2012 before Mick goes all in.
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aprilfool
Do you really want to go to a new tour, Mick talks of risks about money and profit but I'm talking about the ability of the band playing well. I HOPE there will be no new tour. Open the vaults. All the good years are behind them. When it's time to stop with "elegance", don't go to a catastrophic ending.

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drbryant
Mick could just be taking the position publicly because he is in negotiations with promoters. It would be the right thing to do.

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mickscarey
Done deal

Correct - the vaults are open. Glad you were finally right about something.

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Gazza
I personally dont think a long tour is likely either. Certainly not of the length we've been used to.

More for reasons of age than the economy.

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Long John Stoner
I believe him. They're done. They haven't written or recorded together for 6-7 years now. The last live show was over four years ago. Jagger turns 69 halfway through 2012, Richards 69 at the end of 2012, Watts will be 71 halfway through, Wood will be 65 halfway through, Wyman, if he were to participate, would be 76 in late 2012. Come on, already. They're mining the past for product to sell. What have any of them done lately to even remotely suggest even a few shows just to commemorate the 50th, much less a tour, is going to happen?

Let the group known as the Rolling Stones go gently into the good night. It's what most of them seem to want to do.

Keith and Ronnie clearly want to keep going. Charlie clearly won't be the one who ruins it for everyone else. We're just waiting for Mick...

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aprilfool
Do you really want to go to a new tour, Mick talks of risks about money and profit but I'm talking about the ability of the band playing well. I HOPE there will be no new tour. Open the vaults. All the good years are behind them. When it's time to stop with "elegance", don't go to a catastrophic ending.

+1

I don't want to see Keith embarrass himself. Something tells me that watching them live now would be... uncomfortable as hell.

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andrea66
I don't think they will do a great classical stones tour, but they will do like 10-20 concerts for sure...

They can do 50 shows in a 4 month stretch. 25 in North America and 25 in Europe. They could all be back home in time for Christmas 2012.

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