So why did Winehouse die? The theory I heard that flies with me is she found out she was pregnant and decided to do a very speedy self detox. She stopped using anything/everything immediately which caused her to have a seizure which stopped her heart (or started it to beat in a very unstable manner). What ever the case the seizure was just too much for her body to handle. Poor girl needed some strong guidance. Where were her Great effing friends.... (as usual, bunch of phoney, fair weather, hanger on-er's - TYPICAL) R.I.P AMY, you never had a chance (and that is what is so sad about this whole thing) CCMind

As someone pointed out yesterday,
the headline "No illegal drugs found" brings up the point...
"Legal Drugs Kill Far More Than Illegal" [www.nytimes.com]

who has survived? we just dies at different ages...

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who has survived? we just dies at different ages...

No one gets out of here alive

If you want to party you gotta look after yourself. Have a good diet and exercise regularly. That's the code of the road.

Yeah, ask Jogging Jagger

from this:

[www.metro.co.uk]
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"Amy’s family will now have to wait until the end of the inquest in October for a formal cause of death."

...let her R.I.P. (we don't even know if she was found in the end of a rope)..

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As someone pointed out yesterday,
the headline "No illegal drugs found" brings up the point...
"Legal Drugs Kill Far More Than Illegal" [www.nytimes.com]

Someone did point that out yesterday didn't they?
[www.iorr.org]

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As someone pointed out yesterday,
the headline "No illegal drugs found" brings up the point...
"Legal Drugs Kill Far More Than Illegal" [www.nytimes.com]

Someone did point that out yesterday didn't they?
[www.iorr.org]

ummm, yeah, that is what I said.

Yeah you guys, but the "Heart Attack/Seizure" idea wasn't mentioned so this is new info. How about giving CCM a break my wonderful IORR Peeps, come on, Shine a Light of Sympathy on your mate..... (where's Rockman BTW? Him be OK? I worry about my peeps you know)

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As someone pointed out yesterday,
the headline "No illegal drugs found" brings up the point...
"Legal Drugs Kill Far More Than Illegal" [www.nytimes.com]

Ain't it the truth MKC! Big Pharm has us all by the gonads! The money is so HUGE that the poor folks of America and elsewhere don't stand a chance. It sickens me, and not just when I'm kicking the latest pain meds! An aweful lot of hopeless junkies thinking they have it together because taking those little pills is so clean easy and hidden. Steven Tyler's book is rife with example of rocks royalty and their families being destroyed by LEGAL drugs. I hope we get a handle on it soon. I just overheard two 11 year old boys talking about how to smoke OxyContin, that was a shock. Better talk to your kids , quick, tell them the truth, whatever that is. peace.

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How about giving CCM a break my wonderful IORR Peeps, come on, Shine a Light of Sympathy on your mate...

I wasnt giving you trouble, you are A-OK by me, not sure what the other person was insinuating, but it makes no diff... keep on keeping on.

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Ain't it the truth MKC! Big Pharm has us all by the gonads!........ Better talk to your kids , quick, tell them the truth, whatever that is. peace.

Thats the facts bro... thats the facts.

It is pathetic how every other commercial on TV is "Just say no to drugs"... while in between those commercials are big pharm ads "Are you a sad bubble?" "Do you have restless legs?" "Problems sleeping?" "Cant get a boner?" buy our drugs...

Then the whole concept of synthetic heroin (oxycontin).... I said from the get go that was a bad idea, how could it not be? ...Now there are plenty of stories where kids start with legal oxycontin... then switch over to cheaper heroin [starbeacon.com] ... is that a prank or seomthing? omg...

Lucky I was raised right after Jimi, Janis and Mama died of heroin ODs(maybe theye did)... so the rule was DONT DO HEROIN (and now.. dont do synthetic heroin). Pretty good rule.



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How about giving CCM a break my wonderful IORR Peeps, come on, Shine a Light of Sympathy on your mate...

I wasnt giving you trouble, you are A-OK by me, not sure what the other person was insinuating, but it makes no diff... keep on keeping on.

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Ain't it the truth MKC! Big Pharm has us all by the gonads!........ Better talk to your kids , quick, tell them the truth, whatever that is. peace.

Thats the facts bro... thats the facts.

It is pathetic how every other commercial on TV is "Just say no to drugs"... while in between those commercials are big pharm ads "Are you a sad bubble?" "Do you have restless legs?" "Problems sleeping?" "Cant get a boner?" buy our drugs...

Then the whole concept of synthetic heroin(oxycontin).... I said from the get go that was a bad idea, how could it not be? ...Now there are plenty of stories where kids start with legal oxycontin... then switch over to cheaper heroin [starbeacon.com] ... is that a prank or seomthing? omg...

Wow man, congrats you found this out after 45 years! I hope it doesn't take another 45 years to find out that you can't live on borrowed money alone, social security isn't a bad thing per se, guns kill people, and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

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and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

Mathijs

First part of your odd reply does not even make sense (which is not unusal) so no reason to quote it... but the other part about "keep within your private home"... how funny is it that you are out here preaching in public, while telling others not to... but I guess that is not unsual either... sigh.

Seems like I hear more preaching from atheist types these days, that there is no God, than I ever have, my entire life, from from religious folks preaching that there is a God.

Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.



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who has survived? we just dies at different ages...

Life is very overrated, no one has ever survived it!
Amy - RIP.

Bo

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and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

Mathijs

First part of your odd reply does not even make sense (which is not unusal) so no reason to quote it... but the other part about "keep within your private home"... how funny is it that you are out here preaching in public, while telling others not to... but I guess that is not unsual either... sigh.

Seems like I hear more preaching from atheist types these days, that there is no God, than I ever have, my entire life, from from religious folks preaching that there is a God.

Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.

There is of course a difference in something totally unimportant as the Stones (in the end, who gives a flying fvck), and preaching about anything supposedly devine, that can get you into trouble anywhere around three quarters of the globe, and is the cause of 90% of the conflicts around the world?

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and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

Mathijs

First part of your odd reply does not even make sense (which is not unusal) so no reason to quote it... but the other part about "keep within your private home"... how funny is it that you are out here preaching in public, while telling others not to... but I guess that is not unsual either... sigh.

Seems like I hear more preaching from atheist types these days, that there is no God, than I ever have, my entire life, from from religious folks preaching that there is a God.

Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.

There is of course a difference in something totally unimportant as the Stones (in the end, who gives a flying fvck), and preaching about anything supposedly devine, that can get you into trouble anywhere around three quarters of the globe, and is the cause of 90% of the conflicts around the world?

Mathijs

Dont say "you" when talking to me, about this, bacause I dont talk religion, it is bad form.

You were the one, who out of the blue, started preaching the atheist gospel. I am not even sure why you decided to chime in on the conversation, except to spread your gospel... which atheist zealots seem to love to do... there so many out here these days, so zealous in their preaching no-God.... I find them as offending a religious zealots preaching God in public.... and then that part about feeling free to say it anywhere... while telling others to not talk religion outside of their homes... it is amusing.



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This is getting interesting.

My first thought was most of us are sitting in our homes as we type. The preaching rule has been sustained.

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and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

Mathijs

First part of your odd reply does not even make sense (which is not unusal) so no reason to quote it... but the other part about "keep within your private home"... how funny is it that you are out here preaching in public, while telling others not to... but I guess that is not unsual either... sigh.

Seems like I hear more preaching from atheist types these days, that there is no God, than I ever have, my entire life, from from religious folks preaching that there is a God.

Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.

There is of course a difference in something totally unimportant as the Stones (in the end, who gives a flying fvck), and preaching about anything supposedly devine, that can get you into trouble anywhere around three quarters of the globe, and is the cause of 90% of the conflicts around the world?

Mathijs

Dont say "you" when talking to me, about this, bacause I dont talk religion, it is bad form.

You were the one, who out of the blue, started preaching the atheist gospel. I am not even sure why you decided to chime in on the conversation, except to spread your gospel... which atheist zealots seem to love to do... there so many out here these days, so zealous in their preaching no-God.... I find them as offending a religious zealots preaching God in public.... and then that part about feeling free to say it anywhere... while telling others to not talk religion outside of their homes... it is amusing.

he he, I was just making a bit of fun. Funny how you get wound up over the god remark, not by the other remarks which I think are quite more important, aren't they.

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and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

Mathijs

First part of your odd reply does not even make sense (which is not unusal) so no reason to quote it... but the other part about "keep within your private home"... how funny is it that you are out here preaching in public, while telling others not to... but I guess that is not unsual either... sigh.

Seems like I hear more preaching from atheist types these days, that there is no God, than I ever have, my entire life, from from religious folks preaching that there is a God.

Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.

There is of course a difference in something totally unimportant as the Stones (in the end, who gives a flying fvck), and preaching about anything supposedly devine, that can get you into trouble anywhere around three quarters of the globe, and is the cause of 90% of the conflicts around the world?

Mathijs

Dont say "you" when talking to me, about this, bacause I dont talk religion, it is bad form.

You were the one, who out of the blue, started preaching the atheist gospel. I am not even sure why you decided to chime in on the conversation, except to spread your gospel... which atheist zealots seem to love to do... there so many out here these days, so zealous in their preaching no-God.... I find them as offending a religious zealots preaching God in public.... and then that part about feeling free to say it anywhere... while telling others to not talk religion outside of their homes... it is amusing.

he he, I was just making a bit of fun. Funny how you get wound up over the god remark, not by the other remarks which I think are quite more important, aren't they.

Mathijs

If you pay attention, I stated the rest of it made no sense, thus it makes no sense to address it. I am not sure why you chimed in anyway, except to do some preaching of your religion

But, how about we let it drop, and spend time on worthy topics, and allow this thread to get back on topic.



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and God doesn't exist (and if you want to believe he does: keep it within your private home).

Mathijs

First part of your odd reply does not even make sense (which is not unusal) so no reason to quote it... but the other part about "keep within your private home"... how funny is it that you are out here preaching in public, while telling others not to... but I guess that is not unsual either... sigh.

Seems like I hear more preaching from atheist types these days, that there is no God, than I ever have, my entire life, from from religious folks preaching that there is a God.

Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.

There is of course a difference in something totally unimportant as the Stones (in the end, who gives a flying fvck), and preaching about anything supposedly devine, that can get you into trouble anywhere around three quarters of the globe, and is the cause of 90% of the conflicts around the world?

Mathijs

Dont say "you" when talking to me, about this, bacause I dont talk religion, it is bad form.

You were the one, who out of the blue, started preaching the atheist gospel. I am not even sure why you decided to chime in on the conversation, except to spread your gospel... which atheist zealots seem to love to do... there so many out here these days, so zealous in their preaching no-God.... I find them as offending a religious zealots preaching God in public.... and then that part about feeling free to say it anywhere... while telling others to not talk religion outside of their homes... it is amusing.

he he, I was just making a bit of fun. Funny how you get wound up over the god remark, not by the other remarks which I think are quite more important, aren't they.

Mathijs

If you pay attention, I stated the rest of it made no sense, thus it makes no sense to address it. I am not sure why you chimed in anyway, except to do some preaching of your religion

I don't have a religion, so I can't really preach can't I.

But let's just let it rest.

Mathijs

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If you want to party you gotta look after yourself. Have a good diet and exercise regularly. That's the code of the road.

Well said SilverDagger! It has been working for me so far. Exercise and low quantity high quality food is super important, especially if you choose to dabble in the more potent mixes of the day. The problem is of course the nature of substances in our lives can hide the imaginary line we can cross over, after which the substance has more control over the brain than the normal and reasonable thought processes which we rely on to survive. After you cross that hidden line, you are forced to "deal with it" the rest of your short life. Hard to embrace something when you can't see it coming. peace.

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[Who would have guessed, "atheist zealots"?... pretty funny

Of course I keep my religous (and political) views to myself. period.

Wise words and relevant observations MKC. I appreciate your tackling this one with good sense. peace.

Just because there wasnt any drugs in her system, doesnt mean that they hadn't caused organ failure, the heart attack you have now, maybe caused by the hamburger you had three years ago.

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Just because there wasnt any drugs in her system, doesnt mean that they hadn't caused organ failure, the heart attack you have now, maybe caused by the hamburger you had three years ago.

thats a stretch lapaz62 although the mexican old lady who serves the shrimp tacos in downtown La Paz does so with such love that all who partake are made healthy. ok better check Amy's hair then, a violent mix of chemical residues would clearly be detected. Who cares? She's gone. She got a chance that many others would take and did her best. It's cesspool out there in the entertainment world still. Everybodys trying to get you high. Check out the song "I Used to Get High for a Livin" by the John Butler Trio. cool stuff but rather lame mix. peace.

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guns kill people, Mathijs

Not intentionally they don't. In fact without collaboration they are quite incapable. People with guns and bad intentions kill people. You are not going to get rid of them and the bad guys will always have them, I prefer to keep an open mind on the subject. The threat of guns causes alot of peace actually. peace.

Mitch Winehouse believes his daughter died of a siezure alone at home. Interview link: [old.news.yahoo.com]

apparently he was interviewed for Anderson Coopers new show premiering next Monday.