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tomk
Brian did that for Little Red Rooster.
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Brian did that for Little Red Rooster.
No!
Brian used open G tuning for LRR both live and for the studio version.
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tomk
Studio, yes. Regarding live, what proof do you have that it's not just him dropping his high E to D? Not that I don't believe you, I would just like some more proof of it.
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tomk
Brian did that for Little Red Rooster.
No!
Brian used open G tuning for LRR both live and for the studio version.
Studio, yes. Regarding live, what proof do you have that it's not just him dropping his high E to D? Not that I don't believe you, I would just like some more proof of it.
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tomk
Studio, yes. Regarding live, what proof do you have that it's not just him dropping his high E to D? Not that I don't believe you, I would just like some more proof of it.
Brian always changed guitars to play Little Red Rooster, which strongly suggests a different tuning. See here...
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tomk
All I'm suggesting is that he just dropped his high E to D for gigs like this for LRR and not tuning his whole guitar to open G.
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Swedgen72
All Taylor's slide playing is in standard tuning. 100% correct as I asked him when he came out here a few years ago and he told me.
Love in Vain from Ya-Ya's, and Stop Breaking Down from Exile is Taylor doing slide in open G. Hyde Park No Expectations as well, and I think he does open G slide on Moonlight Mile.
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tomk
All I'm suggesting is that he just dropped his high E to D for gigs like this for LRR and not tuning his whole guitar to open G.
I get that, but he didn't. Brian had a 2nd guitar tuned to open G and switched to it when they did LRR.
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tomk
I get your point. It's just as easy to play LRR with the drop D as it is in open G
Easier, really--only for tuning purposes in those maddening tours and TV shows.
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tomk
I get your point. It's just as easy to play LRR with the drop D as it is in open G
Easier, really--only for tuning purposes in those maddening tours and TV shows.
Nothing maddening about changing guitars for one song or so, which he is shown doing at lots of gigs and tv shows.
The footage confirms he used open G, the audio confirms he used open G. He used open G for LRR.
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tomk
So we'll disagree. No use getting our kickers in a twist...over the tuning of 2 guitar strings...eh?!
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All Taylor's slide playing is in standard tuning. 100% correct as I asked him when he came out here a few years ago and he told me.
Love in Vain from Ya-Ya's, and Stop Breaking Down from Exile is Taylor doing slide in open G. Hyde Park No Expectations as well, and I think he does open G slide on Moonlight Mile.
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Love in vain from Ya-Ya is in standard tuning 100000000%. When I got the album in 1970 I was just starting playing guitar, and I just had one gool - to play Love In Vain like Taylor. I prac. for month and month. Today I play Vain 100% as Taylor did on Ya-Ya, but the Hyde Park version can be played both in standard and open G.The same goes for Stop Breaking Down. In reality its all a matter of taste.
I allways play JJF in standard tuning, and Honky Tonk both in standard and open G ( off cause not at the same time LOL). I never played Expectations or Moonlight, (dont like them) so I cant say much about that, but Expectations sounds to me like standard tuning - or maybe another open tuning .I think Taylor played in lots of open tunings - you can tune your guitar as you like. I,ve bought a book years ago about open tunings - really funny stuff!
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LRR is easily played like tomk says. I mean, from dropping both E's to Open G it is just the A string left. And I can not judge from that clip. Brian is very much favoring the high strings. That little lick without slide he keeps fitting in between, rides much on the G-B-D setup of the higher strings, so..
Is there any quote where Brian or Keith have said that Brain kept an Open G guitar ?
Changing guitar doesn't really mean all that. Could be for various reasons.
I obviously can't say this for a fact, but from the sound of that Mark III guitar before it doesn't sound like it lends itself to slide on Blues.
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Love in vain from Ya-Ya is in standard tuning 100000000%.
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Love in vain from Ya-Ya is in standard tuning 100000000%.
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No, I'm really sorry but the solo of LIV from Ya-Ya's (and in fact the entire '69 tour) is open G. Taylor used Keith's Bigsby Burst, which Keith also used for HTW. This Burst was only five strings, and open G.
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i remember you saying you used to have a whole series of shots of that solo , if you found them , now is the time to post the evidence ! or a close up of keith playing the guitar
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LRR is easily played like tomk says. I mean, from dropping both E's to Open G it is just the A string left. And I can not judge from that clip. Brian is very much favoring the high strings. That little lick without slide he keeps fitting in between, rides much on the G-B-D setup of the higher strings, so..
Is there any quote where Brian or Keith have said that Brain kept an Open G guitar ?
Changing guitar doesn't really mean all that. Could be for various reasons.
I obviously can't say this for a fact, but from the sound of that Mark III guitar before it doesn't sound like it lends itself to slide on Blues.
You are looking for things that just aren't there.
Brian plays the 5th string and it sounds just like it should on a guitar tuned to open G, ie it is tuned down to G, same with the 1st high string, it is tuned to D. In other words he has his guitar tuned to open G. Same thing on every Brian era version of LRR available.
He used open E for live versions of I Wanna Be Your Man, Mona in 1963/64, open G for live versions of Little Red Rooster in 1965, open A for live No Expectations at Rock and Roll Circus in 1968.
There are no recordings available featuring Brian playing guitar using anything other than full standard tuning or full open tuning.
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I really wasn't looking for anything. Just stating my opinion.
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I really wasn't looking for anything. Just stating my opinion.
There's nothing to support tomk's suggestion that Brian only tuned down one string. The Sullivan clip proves he didn't. What Brian plays, how and where he plays certain notes can only be done with open G.
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Love in vain from Ya-Ya is in standard tuning 100000000%. <hedegaard>
No, I'm really sorry but the solo of LIV from Ya-Ya's (and in fact the entire '69 tour) is open G. Taylor used Keith's Bigsby Burst, which Keith also used for HTW. This Burst was only five strings, and open G. <Mathijs>
What a boring discussion "right or wrong" concerning such a rudimentary subject.
Any player telling me he can do the Taylor gyyo! Love in vain slide solo in standard tuning -which is possible if you want to- I would say: "congrats, how did you manage to do that"...
More educational and interesting from a guitarist's point of view.
Kindergarten.
Mr. Amsterdamned from the kindergarden: if this discussion is boring you, you might as well stay out of it - right?
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tomk
The Sullivan clip seems to be gone from YouTube (at least on my end), so I'll have to look at my DVDs. Which part is Brian using the fifth string? The main riff?If I remember correctly, he's got a small slide. Hey, look, I'm not trying to start an argument. I have better things to do. You seem to be the Brian Jones guy around here. I'm just asking. Funny, the Sullivan clip was there yesterday.
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The Sullivan clip seems to be gone from YouTube (at least on my end), so I'll have to look at my DVDs. Which part is Brian using the fifth string? The main riff?If I remember correctly, he's got a small slide. Hey, look, I'm not trying to start an argument. I have better things to do. You seem to be the Brian Jones guy around here. I'm just asking. Funny, the Sullivan clip was there yesterday.
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tomk
The Sullivan clip seems to be gone from YouTube (at least on my end), so I'll have to look at my DVDs. Which part is Brian using the fifth string? The main riff?If I remember correctly, he's got a small slide. Hey, look, I'm not trying to start an argument. I have better things to do. You seem to be the Brian Jones guy around here. I'm just asking. Funny, the Sullivan clip was there yesterday.
The clip is still there, but you need to watch it on YouTube (not here):
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The Sullivan clip seems to be gone from YouTube (at least on my end), so I'll have to look at my DVDs. Which part is Brian using the fifth string? The main riff?If I remember correctly, he's got a small slide. Hey, look, I'm not trying to start an argument. I have better things to do. You seem to be the Brian Jones guy around here. I'm just asking. Funny, the Sullivan clip was there yesterday.
The clip is still there, but you need to watch it on YouTube (not here):
I found it again on You Tube. Thanks. I searched and searched this afternoon.