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Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: TE ()
Date: July 4, 2011 10:10

Opening night Bigger Bang, Boston...
First row half empty. A couple walks in after a few songs. Cheering, taking photos, leaves after 1 hour...
Had 2nd row and watched the madness.
Would even be better if Fanasylum had access to those seats.

TE
Oslo

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: July 4, 2011 11:01

Another good point "TE". Seems the best seats are reserved for non-fans like businessmen or some kind of VIPs. It can't be about the money, I'm sure a fan would even pay extra for first row seats. And the thing about having a chick on the shoulder or holding up banners for a long time is frustrating too. Someone used the word "narcissus. That was spot on.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: July 4, 2011 13:32

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".


I'm with you on this Tele...pisses me off big time when @#$%& dance and sing in front of me - like their concert experience is more valuable than mine

Yes, amazing how some people see their right to "express themselves" by "dancing" or talking trumps our right to actually enjoy the performance we paid to see. Many great concerts have been ruined (or nearly so) for me by this behavior.

How the hell can you go to a Rolling Stones show and not dance????? That's crazy.

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs upthumbs up......I've always said anyone who can listen to the Stones and not want to dance must be dead from the neck down....When I was D.J.ing,, Brown Sugar was the only song when I played it that virtually everybody would get up and dance to....including at one private do my late but at that time 75 year old mother-in-law......................At Earl's court there was also an O.A.P. dancing with his daughter in the aisle........me and my girl joined them rather than stay standing next to this other guy who insisted in telling the title of every song and more........"Just shut up and dance !!!!!!!!!!"

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: flilflam ()
Date: July 4, 2011 14:02

I don't like it when the fans boo the opening act. I have actually seen this on at least two occasions. Some Stones fans can be snobs towards other artists they perceive as being very uncool.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: john nicholls ()
Date: July 4, 2011 14:06

Don't you just love it when you hear this 'OH I LIKE THIS ONE I THINK IT'S CALLED SATISFACTION'!!!!!!

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: July 4, 2011 15:22

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to be honest i dont like when people get on someones shoulders to watch the show, very rude IMO and i have actually had a couple of run ins with some of them

A good reason to smuggle in a bottle or two. These @#$%& make for good target practice. I've scored a few direct hits in my time.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: July 4, 2011 15:29

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to be honest i dont like when people get on someones shoulders to watch the show, very rude IMO and i have actually had a couple of run ins with some of them

A good reason to smuggle in a bottle or two. These @#$%& make for good target practice. I've scored a few direct hits in my time.

I remember the old Reading Festival in the 70s and 80s used to attract a bunch of crazed pissheads who would urinate in plastic bottles and lob them over their heads. Caused a right stink, that did.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: July 4, 2011 16:15

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".

71Tele..I don't call fans who like to dance snobs that sort of thing does'nt bother me at all..its always good to see the fans do that..yea' smoking smiley

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: July 4, 2011 16:17

I always loved the democarcy in the GA / FOS of most European shows. Hardcore fans are happy to pay 10 extra euro to be in the FOS section. Those who want to squeeze in the first lines are free to squeeze. Those who love dancing are free to dance. Those who love standing and enjoing the show are free to stand and enjoy the show. Those who want a taste of all of the above are free to do it as well.

VIP seated places are normally in the back or side.

Only time I've been to an all seated Stones concert was at the MSG in 2003, and based on that I can say that seeing the stones this way it not my coup of tea!

During the ABB concert I boycotted the rome concert for this very reason.

C

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: July 4, 2011 16:26

....Just an opinion...but if your going to a show...you might be more interested in just having a good time than worrying about who knows what and who...'cause your always going to run into that no matter whether your at a Stones show or the bakery waiting for your everything bagel with scallion cream cheese.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: July 4, 2011 17:39

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How the hell can you go to a Rolling Stones show and not dance????? That's crazy.

If your a dude over 40. Dancing is for the girls. Listening is for the fellas. Only idiots would embarrass themselves by trying to dance.

You must like the sausage fests. Women prefer a man with rhythm. To bad you're rapped up in your tough guy image, are you the only "sicilian" over 40 that can't dance? You're missing out by not be able to dance, get out of the corner and try it some day. You're that guy at the wedding who sits the entire night.


Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: July 4, 2011 17:43

The Rolling Stones are a dance band.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: July 4, 2011 17:44

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".


I'm with you on this Tele...pisses me off big time when @#$%& dance and sing in front of me - like their concert experience is more valuable than mine

Yes, amazing how some people see their right to "express themselves" by "dancing" or talking trumps our right to actually enjoy the performance we paid to see. Many great concerts have been ruined (or nearly so) for me by this behavior.

How the hell can you go to a Rolling Stones show and not dance????? That's crazy.

No, what's crazy is to think that someone's need to dance overrides other people's desire and right to see the show. That's pure narcissism. Unfortunately it is also typical of many concert-goers in this day and age.
You can look at narcissism from both sides, do you have a right to tell someone dancing to stop enjoying themselves? We are talking about The Rolling Stones, not a Pink Floyd concert.


Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: DragonSky ()
Date: July 4, 2011 17:53

How the clueless wait for a warhorse while they play Monkey Man or Out Of Tears etc - something not "well known" (a non-hit) or something new. They sit there and have no idea what's going on. How can that be? That's just wrong. Hits snobs are a drag. Stay home and listen to the best of or the radio then.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: LastStopThisTown ()
Date: July 4, 2011 17:56

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".


I'm with you on this Tele...pisses me off big time when @#$%& dance and sing in front of me - like their concert experience is more valuable than mine

Yes, amazing how some people see their right to "express themselves" by "dancing" or talking trumps our right to actually enjoy the performance we paid to see. Many great concerts have been ruined (or nearly so) for me by this behavior.

Is this for real?? or some kind of ironic comments?? When i go to see the Stones and have paid £150 to see the band i want to sing and dance to every number! Enjoy the moment! If you want to sit and listen in silence and not participate stay at home and pop on a Bigger Bang DVD.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 4, 2011 20:03

Insisting to be driven home after the concert in a black Mercedes S-class by a chauffeur.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: franzk ()
Date: July 4, 2011 22:21

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Opening night Bigger Bang, Boston...
First row half empty. A couple walks in after a few songs. Cheering, taking photos, leaves after 1 hour...
Had 2nd row and watched the madness.
Would even be better if Fanasylum had access to those seats.

TE
Oslo

That's why I'll never understand Americans and their seated stadium shows. All of the stadium shows I've seen in Europe had only general admission, standing tickets on the field. If someone wishes to sit during the show they could buy a ticket in the stands. I can never imagine watching rock and roll show at the seats.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: July 4, 2011 23:07

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Opening night Bigger Bang, Boston...
First row half empty. A couple walks in after a few songs. Cheering, taking photos, leaves after 1 hour...
Had 2nd row and watched the madness.
Would even be better if Fanasylum had access to those seats.

TE
Oslo

That's why I'll never understand Americans and their seated stadium shows. All of the stadium shows I've seen in Europe had only general admission, standing tickets on the field. If someone wishes to sit during the show they could buy a ticket in the stands. I can never imagine watching rock and roll show at the seats.
is the who to blame?

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: July 4, 2011 23:19

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".

71Tele..I don't call fans who like to dance snobs that sort of thing does'nt bother me at all..its always good to see the fans do that..yea' smoking smiley

The people that go along to concerts and "stick their noses up in air" when they see fans dancing and having a good time..well they're the snobs

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: July 4, 2011 23:32

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".

71Tele..I don't call fans who like to dance snobs that sort of thing does'nt bother me at all..its always good to see the fans do that..yea' smoking smiley

The people that go along to concerts and "stick their noses up in air" when they see fans dancing and having a good time..well they're the snobs

Think you are missing the point colonial. I am all for people dancing at a stones gig, I just don't want them dancing directly in front of me, or as Tele said, talking loudly throughout the songs. If you wanna dance move to the edge, to the back to somewhere where the dancing won't interfere with other' viewings. I want to see the band, I want to see what is happening on stage, not some @#$%& bouncing around - the reason they light the stage up is for people top be able to see what is going on, to watch the spectale. Dance by all means, just don't dance on my patch.


Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: bv ()
Date: July 4, 2011 23:36

Sure. It happens at Stones shows!

1. Before the encore loads of VIP's get escorted to their bus and limo services. Easy to see because they are all up front with great tickets, still they do never experience the final bow. They are probably in the hotel bar post party by the time of the final bow.

2. During the JOINT show in Las Vegas 1998, everybody was sitting down during thye entire show, also during Out Of Control. LA VIP's. It felt strange.

3. At the Roseland show in NYC many VIP's walked out after the first song or so, because that was all the time they wanteed to spend on the Stones. Then they could talk about the show next day at the office. Such a waste of great tickets!

These things happen all the time, every show, I just ignore it, but it's a fact that the Stones are like jewelry to some people, expensive but still a waste because it does not cost them anything, they have too much money, and they don't really care about the Stones at all.

Bjornulf

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Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: July 4, 2011 23:51

>>....not some @#$%& bouncing around <<

are you sure? winking smiley


Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 5, 2011 00:35

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".

71Tele..I don't call fans who like to dance snobs that sort of thing does'nt bother me at all..its always good to see the fans do that..yea' smoking smiley

I'm all for dancing if it doesn't mean using up more space than the person is entitled to use and ruining the enjoyment for other people. Unfortunately not all "dancers" see it that way. There's something wrong with you if you don't want them blocking your view or ruining the show for you.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 5, 2011 00:36

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".


I'm with you on this Tele...pisses me off big time when @#$%& dance and sing in front of me - like their concert experience is more valuable than mine

Yes, amazing how some people see their right to "express themselves" by "dancing" or talking trumps our right to actually enjoy the performance we paid to see. Many great concerts have been ruined (or nearly so) for me by this behavior.

How the hell can you go to a Rolling Stones show and not dance????? That's crazy.

No, what's crazy is to think that someone's need to dance overrides other people's desire and right to see the show. That's pure narcissism. Unfortunately it is also typical of many concert-goers in this day and age.
You can look at narcissism from both sides, do you have a right to tell someone dancing to stop enjoying themselves? We are talking about The Rolling Stones, not a Pink Floyd concert.

Yes, you have the right to tell people to please not yell over the music or obstruct your view. I do believe you do have that right.

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: franzk ()
Date: July 5, 2011 00:36

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TE
Opening night Bigger Bang, Boston...
First row half empty. A couple walks in after a few songs. Cheering, taking photos, leaves after 1 hour...
Had 2nd row and watched the madness.
Would even be better if Fanasylum had access to those seats.

TE
Oslo

That's why I'll never understand Americans and their seated stadium shows. All of the stadium shows I've seen in Europe had only general admission, standing tickets on the field. If someone wishes to sit during the show they could buy a ticket in the stands. I can never imagine watching rock and roll show at the seats.
is the who to blame?

In Denmark they didn't put seats in Roskilde after Pearl Jam. I'd rather attribute it to the laziness of some people who prefer comfort so they can eat big macs and drink diet pepsi while watching the show...

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: July 5, 2011 01:49

Again we have a thread here that is turning into the stupid discussion whether to stand or sit down during a Stones show. And again it is turning into an example of the never-ending ever-lasting story about not having any respect or understanding for other people. And again I feel the need to post what I posted several times before. Some people WANT to stand and dance during the whole show, and do so because they feel they are entitled to, because it is a Rock show. Doing this they annoy other people who WANT to sit down during the whole show. They sit down because they feel they are entitled to, because they paid big money for their seats, and they are annoyed by all those people standing in front of them, thus obstructing their view.
I would say make an agreement together. Get up every now and then, and sit down every now and then. That way everybody will be able to enjoy the show. It is just a simple matter of understanding each other. Give a little, take a little.
But of course this only goes for people who are in good health. People who have a choice whether they WANT to stand up or sit down. For myself and my Dear Lady Anne this doesn't work. Some of you know that my Dear Lady Anne has been suffering from MS for many years. She WANTS to stand up and dance during the whole show but her illness simply makes this impossible. She can stand up every now and then, but most of the time during the show she is forced to sit down. And YES, I am one of those annoying guys who very politely asks the people in front of us to sit down every now and then, explaining the situation to them. Thus giving Anne a chance to watch at least half of the show. And YES, I do get aggressive when the people in front of us simply ignore my request. Fortunately this doesn't happen very often.
And again as an example of how some "fans" take what they think is their right to take, I would like to mention again the Bigger Bang show in Rome in 2007. Anne and I had great seats for this show, very close to the stage. And we were able to find our seats. But then a couple of thousands of "fans" decided to take over the field. Not only were they standing in front of everybody, but they were also standing on the chairs to get an even better view, totally ignoring everybody else. All that Anne could see were the backs and bottoms of those people. This was all before the show started. Therefore we decided to leave our seats and try to get to the back of the stadium, out of the crowd. But this was also impossible, because the rows and isles were totally blocked by thousands of people. I could have forced my way out easily, but for Anne this was impossible because already the 1st group of people simply refused to step back a little. So we had no other choice then stay where we were. I got up on my chair every now and then, so I did catch a few glimpses of the show. Anne saw the Stones when they came by on their way to and from the B-stage. That was it for her.
I guess I don't have to explain where I stand in discussions like this.

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 5, 2011 02:27

You have my sympathy there, Hansie. There should have been some officials there to take care of the situation. And you should have gotten your money back due to this. Maybe it's true what they say about Italians and organization?

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 5, 2011 02:31

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I admit I am a snob, if "snob" means that by paying over $100 for a ticket to see my favorite band I am expected to endure idiots who talk through the entire show, or worse, constantly fiddle with their cellphones, or feel the need to obstruct my view by "dancing".


I'm with you on this Tele...pisses me off big time when @#$%& dance and sing in front of me - like their concert experience is more valuable than mine

Yes, amazing how some people see their right to "express themselves" by "dancing" or talking trumps our right to actually enjoy the performance we paid to see. Many great concerts have been ruined (or nearly so) for me by this behavior.

Is this for real?? or some kind of ironic comments?? When i go to see the Stones and have paid £150 to see the band i want to sing and dance to every number! Enjoy the moment! If you want to sit and listen in silence and not participate stay at home and pop on a Bigger Bang DVD.

So, this means that whatever you want to do that qualifies to you as "enjoying the moment" is ok, no matter what form it takes, or how it affects the enjoyment of others? Just want to make sure I am getting this right, because I feel we have really identified the issue here.

Do whatever you want, just don't prevent me from seeing or hearing the show. Doesn't seem too much to ask, or does it?

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 5, 2011 02:33

"I would say make an agreement together. Get up every now and then, and sit down every now and then. That way everybody will be able to enjoy the show. It is just a simple matter of understanding each other. Give a little, take a little."

Fine by me. But for that to work, everyone has to go along. There are times to stand, times to sit. Times to sing along. Times to shut the fvck up. To everything there is a season, turn, turn, turn...

Re: Snobbery at Rolling Stones Concerts
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: July 5, 2011 03:00

It's not snobbery to want to actually SEE the Stones when the price of a front section seat is $500 PLUS! That means, some of us do SIT at certain parts of the show. Now I do dance and jump around but maybe not for all of the show. And I TAKE PICTURES! Yup, I do get pissed when someone jumps in front of me and I ruin a shot but hey, it's a concert not church. Yes 71Tele, like that!!

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