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that album and the first UTOPIA album were recommend to me by a couple of friends
Yes it's a concept album. Saw them on tour during this album. The album is a cross between progressive rock and story telling. Hard to describe. It shows Todd as a great inavator.
No he's not. He needs the double album TODD as well.
are you talking about RA, the first Utopia album or both?
i noticed most people who are a musical genius aren't gotten by a majority of the population
avg todd sales - 150,000-200,000 per title
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
Of that list, Prince, Todd, Stevie, and Pete have recorded albums where they played all (or almost all ) of the instruments. (John Fogarty and McCartney did the same trick as well ). Todd and Pete engineered their records as well.
lenny kravitz has a few albums he played everything himself. didn't lou reed and neil young release albums where they did everything?
Doubt it. Although if those of from 70s/80/s titles not very good against the typical.
Any release today would do a couple thou
But certainly more than a few thou
Plus if they are such geniuses they would sell more. Come on. It is a self pepetuating thing that takes on a life of its own.
does todd sing a lot in THE NAZZ or just play guitar?
are any of their albums still worth checking out?
thats just not true. if an artist is doing something thats outside what their fanbase wants to hear its not going to sell even if they are a genius.
Talk about your favorite band.
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OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 16:25
just getting into his music. i have SOMETHING/ANYTHING and definitive rock collection. it can be solo or work with any of the bands he's done
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
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More Hot Rocks
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Date: June 21, 2011 16:30
The RA album by Utopia was pretty good. Different.
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
hbwriter
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Date: June 21, 2011 16:32
a wizard, a true star
hermit of mink hollow
nearly human
--you're all set
hermit of mink hollow
nearly human
--you're all set
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 16:35
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More Hot Rocks
The RA album by Utopia was pretty good. Different.
that album and the first UTOPIA album were recommend to me by a couple of friends
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
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Date: June 21, 2011 16:42
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keefriffhard4lifeQuote
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The RA album by Utopia was pretty good. Different.
that album and the first UTOPIA album were recommend to me by a couple of friends
Yes it's a concept album. Saw them on tour during this album. The album is a cross between progressive rock and story telling. Hard to describe. It shows Todd as a great inavator.
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
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Thricenay
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Date: June 21, 2011 16:47
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hbwriter
a wizard, a true star
hermit of mink hollow
nearly human
--you're all set
No he's not. He needs the double album TODD as well.
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
hbwriter
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Date: June 21, 2011 17:07
true - and initiation - and liars - and runt
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 17:24
is anything he's done in the last 20 years worth getting?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 17:25
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keefriffhard4lifeQuote
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The RA album by Utopia was pretty good. Different.
that album and the first UTOPIA album were recommend to me by a couple of friends
Yes it's a concept album. Saw them on tour during this album. The album is a cross between progressive rock and story telling. Hard to describe. It shows Todd as a great inavator.
are you talking about RA, the first Utopia album or both?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
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Date: June 21, 2011 17:26
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keefriffhard4lifeQuote
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keefriffhard4lifeQuote
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The RA album by Utopia was pretty good. Different.
that album and the first UTOPIA album were recommend to me by a couple of friends
Yes it's a concept album. Saw them on tour during this album. The album is a cross between progressive rock and story telling. Hard to describe. It shows Todd as a great inavator.
Talking about RA. I guess Utopia was into pyramid power at the time.
are you talking about RA, the first Utopia album or both?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
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keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 17:28
cool. i'll check RA out and the first UTOPIA album since i've had 4 different friends tell me how great it is. it looks like most of his 70's stuff is still in print and pretty cheap which lets me know its probably his best stuff since very few post 1981 albums by him are still in print
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
mickscarey
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Date: June 21, 2011 17:40
Never "got" him
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:40
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mickscarey
Never "got" him
i noticed most people who are a musical genius aren't gotten by a majority of the population
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
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hbwriter
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:42
trivia - for the '78 tour, the stones rehearsed at todd's woodstock ny studio - and wyman attended a marriage at todd's house in '81 - i have pix someplace - i interned at utopia video, todd's studio, while in college during that time
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
mickscarey
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:42
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
hbwriter
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:43
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mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
avg todd sales - 150,000-200,000 per title
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
Ross
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:45
In addition to those mentioned above, I would recommend "Faithful" from 1976. Side 1 was all covers of iconic songs from the 60's, note-for-note perfect duplicates of Strawberry Fields, Rain, If 6 was 9, Good Vibrations; etc. That was interesting, but side 2 (last 6 songs) was all new originals that were among his best tracks. It was like getting another side of tracks from Something/Anything!
Ross
Ross
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:47
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mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
loog droog
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:52
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keefriffhard4lifeQuote
mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
Of that list, Prince, Todd, Stevie, and Pete have recorded albums where they played all (or almost all ) of the instruments. (John Fogarty and McCartney did the same trick as well ). Todd and Pete engineered their records as well.
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 21, 2011 21:57
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loog droogQuote
keefriffhard4lifeQuote
mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
Of that list, Prince, Todd, Stevie, and Pete have recorded albums where they played all (or almost all ) of the instruments. (John Fogarty and McCartney did the same trick as well ). Todd and Pete engineered their records as well.
lenny kravitz has a few albums he played everything himself. didn't lou reed and neil young release albums where they did everything?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
KSIE
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Date: June 21, 2011 23:21
IMHO, no. Just about everything he did up through Todd is very very good. Starting with side two of Initiation (the first side is very good) he got into the twenty minute "explorations", later to be further explored by the original version of Utopia. If prog-rock is your thing, you might enjoy this style. But, if you're looking for the 3 minute pop gems of Something/Anything, steer clear. He had a couple of comebacks with Faithful (side 2 only, the covers are note-by-note homages) and Hermit of Mink Hollow. Since then he has (again, in my opinion) never come close to the quality of his 70s stuff. YMMV
His 60s stuff with The Nazz is pretty interesting also.
His 60s stuff with The Nazz is pretty interesting also.
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keefriffhard4life
is anything he's done in the last 20 years worth getting?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
mickscarey
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Date: June 21, 2011 23:58
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hbwriterQuote
mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
avg todd sales - 150,000-200,000 per title
Doubt it. Although if those of from 70s/80/s titles not very good against the typical.
Any release today would do a couple thou
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
mickscarey
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Date: June 21, 2011 23:59
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keefriffhard4lifeQuote
mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
But certainly more than a few thou
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: June 22, 2011 00:00
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mickscareyQuote
keefriffhard4lifeQuote
mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
But certainly more than a few thou
Plus if they are such geniuses they would sell more. Come on. It is a self pepetuating thing that takes on a life of its own.
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 22, 2011 05:08
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KSIE
IMHO, no. Just about everything he did up through Todd is very very good. Starting with side two of Initiation (the first side is very good) he got into the twenty minute "explorations", later to be further explored by the original version of Utopia. If prog-rock is your thing, you might enjoy this style. But, if you're looking for the 3 minute pop gems of Something/Anything, steer clear. He had a couple of comebacks with Faithful (side 2 only, the covers are note-by-note homages) and Hermit of Mink Hollow. Since then he has (again, in my opinion) never come close to the quality of his 70s stuff. YMMV
His 60s stuff with The Nazz is pretty interesting also.Quote
keefriffhard4life
is anything he's done in the last 20 years worth getting?
does todd sing a lot in THE NAZZ or just play guitar?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
hbwriter
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Date: June 22, 2011 05:40
didn't really sing - played and wrote
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Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 22, 2011 06:31
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hbwriter
didn't really sing - played and wrote
are any of their albums still worth checking out?
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
hbwriter
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Date: June 22, 2011 06:31
yeha - both nazz and nazz nazz - goof solid brit sounding pop albums
Re: OT: Recommend me some TODD RUNDGREN?
Posted by:
keefriffhard4life
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Date: June 22, 2011 06:32
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mickscareyQuote
mickscareyQuote
keefriffhard4lifeQuote
mickscarey
If they were geniuses that would sell more than 1,000 copies
some of brian wilson's solo stuff has sold next to nothing in the states. i have a short list of who i would call a musical genius:
prince
todd rundgren
brian wilson
david bowie
lou reed
stevie wonder
ray davies
pete townshend
not all of those i listed have sold huge numbers
But certainly more than a few thou
Plus if they are such geniuses they would sell more. Come on. It is a self pepetuating thing that takes on a life of its own.
thats just not true. if an artist is doing something thats outside what their fanbase wants to hear its not going to sell even if they are a genius.
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