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drbryant
That tells a story - $206 average price per ticket in San Diego vs $131 average in Columbus.
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That tells a story - $206 average price per ticket in San Diego vs $131 average in Columbus.
how so? you'd expect a much larger venue to have more cheap seats, and thus a lower average. they filled 18,000 more seats in columbus, presumably most of them at the cheapest price. that'll skew the average.
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drbryant
That tells a story - $206 average price per ticket in San Diego vs $131 average in Columbus.
how so? you'd expect a much larger venue to have more cheap seats, and thus a lower average. they filled 18,000 more seats in columbus, presumably most of them at the cheapest price. that'll skew the average.
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treaclefingers
So if there was any lingering doubt, it should now be cleared up.
It's not about whether it was 'sold out', but rather whether revenue was 'maximized'. They can easily sell out any venue with $80 tickets, but they would lose an awful lot of potential revenue to scalpers, who would in turn adjust the price of the ticket to what the market will bear.
I'm not defending the prices...just an observation. "SOLD OUT" means nothing.
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treaclefingers
So if there was any lingering doubt, it should now be cleared up.
It's not about whether it was 'sold out', but rather whether revenue was 'maximized'. They can easily sell out any venue with $80 tickets, but they would lose an awful lot of potential revenue to scalpers, who would in turn adjust the price of the ticket to what the market will bear.
I'm not defending the prices...just an observation. "SOLD OUT" means nothing.
An average price of $131 strikes me as being reasonable. Yeah they sell the good seats at inflated prices so scalpels don't get all the premium, but there are also a lot of cheaper seats to go around. I assume that was the case at Columbus.
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Naturalust
What strikes me as funny is how they list the ticket prices when obviously the primary sellers are getting WAY more for all the tickets up front and other places too if the demand is high.
Love to see a show where all the seats were sold for $395, $175, $69.50, $29.50, at least from the primary sellers.
The whole profit maximizing thing it not necessarily a good thing for the consumers and if they can advertise that they can implement strict anti-scalper measures for the friggin' LD tickets they can surely do it for the rest of the seats.
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mnewman505
Sellout my ass....I was at Columbus, hell most of our entire section was lucky dips originally priced much higher, plus there was tons of room to move around and entire rows were not sold so people naturally spread out. Yes, did it look full in pictures and videos you saw?..sure...but that doesn't tell the whole story.
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Sellout my ass....I was at Columbus, hell most of our entire section was lucky dips originally priced much higher, plus there was tons of room to move around and entire rows were not sold so people naturally spread out. Yes, did it look full in pictures and videos you saw?..sure...but that doesn't tell the whole story.
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laertisflash
And if the floor wasn't seated in 1997, I suppose the capacity was a bit bigger then.
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Naturalust
Yeah of course it probably goes down like that. But releasing huge blocks of tickets to the secondary sellers before the public has a chance at them still doesn't sit right with me. And preventing an individual from scalping a LD ticket while allowing some corporation to scalp thousands of them doesn't either.
I would much prefer to see them just price the tickets at whatever level they need to in order to make a profit on the show. Instigate the strict anti-scalper measures on all of them and keep it simple, fair honest and transparent. If the tickets weren't selling they could always lower the prices....it's pretty obvious no one is going to lose money on a Stones concert...this has become about greedy people trying to milk the maximum amount of money from the fans.
True box office disasters aren't ever going to happen with Stones concerts and if they did it should probably be the Stones themselves taking part of the blow, imo.
btw: Do those Billboard numbers reflect the income from all the seats marked way up by the primary sellers? I get the feeling that, just like the movie business, there is a lot of cash that finds its way to greedy pockets though creative accounting.
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2120Wolf
Correct Selling Out a Venue does not matter...What matters is the Stones have Sold Out. I used to think that they have earned the right but 2 Albums in 18 years is a joke. In 2013 tickets were available at most arenas up until show time, the $650.00 side of stage were dropped to $175.00 in Oakland - San Jose - Vegas & Chicago...Oh and lets not forget abouth Merch-Sales averaging $40.00 per person...tag on another $2,000.000.00 per 50,000...That is correct selling out a venue does not matter.
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2120Wolf
Correct Selling Out a Venue does not matter...What matters is the Stones have Sold Out. I used to think that they have earned the right but 2 Albums in 18 years is a joke. In 2013 tickets were available at most arenas up until show time, the $650.00 side of stage were dropped to $175.00 in Oakland - San Jose - Vegas & Chicago...Oh and lets not forget abouth Merch-Sales averaging $40.00 per person...tag on another $2,000.000.00 per 50,000...That is correct selling out a venue does not matter.
strong point. it used to be that just 2 albums in 18 months was average.
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Correct Selling Out a Venue does not matter...What matters is the Stones have Sold Out. I used to think that they have earned the right but 2 Albums in 18 years is a joke. In 2013 tickets were available at most arenas up until show time, the $650.00 side of stage were dropped to $175.00 in Oakland - San Jose - Vegas & Chicago...Oh and lets not forget abouth Merch-Sales averaging $40.00 per person...tag on another $2,000.000.00 per 50,000...That is correct selling out a venue does not matter.
strong point. it used to be that just 2 albums in 18 months was average.
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drbryant
Tried until 10:00 a.m. show day, but couldn't find a single decent floor seat for less than $1000. Ended up staying in Denver and bought a ticket to see U2, which was priced below face - $200 and just 8th row off floor in the premium "side sections". Powerful show, but to be honest, I probably would have rather been in nosebleeds for the Stones in Arlington. Oh well.
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drbryant
Tried until 10:00 a.m. show day, but couldn't find a single decent floor seat for less than $1000. Ended up staying in Denver and bought a ticket to see U2, which was priced below face - $200 and just 8th row off floor in the premium "side sections". Powerful show, but to be honest, I probably would have rather been in nosebleeds for the Stones in Arlington. Oh well.
Interesting to hear. They are probably the second best live rock band touring at the arena/stadium level. They were stones caliber back in 91 but I guess they too have declined. Say what you will about this stones tour, and lord knows I do, but I have no doubt that their epitaph will say that the way they were able to continue to play extremely well live into their 70s (and hopefully 80s!) remains one of their lasting legacies.