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But back when I was a kid I wanted to hear Brown Sugar most of all.
Amsterdam 26.5.1995
Amsterdam 27.5.1995
Sydney 18.2.2003
& Stockholm 22.7.2003
There may be a couple more ala '70's that I'm not aware of..........
This site doesn't have JJF on the 18th....... [www.frayed.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-04-24 14:52 by EddieByword.
"Brown Sugar" never really worked live? Wow, never thought I'd hear that. Have you heard any of the performances from '72/'73?
Also one of the Atlantic City '89 shows.
The first two chords of the Muscle Shoals recording are the greatest guitar sound ever recorded.
They had pretty good go at it at Altamont though.
Keith rarely played it like this in the years afterwards.
Maybe he forgot what it was like.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-04-25 00:16 by GravityBoy.
Hope they at least leave Brown Sugar off the next tour's set list and replace it with Out Of Control. Always want to hear JJF.
For me they never nailed the groove of the original, especially in 72', 73', it sounded too fast. Also the lack of Keith's fantastic backing vocals didn't help a lot. The version at Julliard in 2005 was the best they done in ages.
That is true. It is the best played Brown Sugar ever. And no it never really worked that fine live again although I love the 1972 version. 1975 is great too (thanks to Preston actually).
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No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 24, 2011 10:20
Hello everyone, long time lurker first time post.
I've only ever seen the Stones once at the first Stafford Bingley Hall in 1976 (Keith crashed the car on the way home to London after the next nights gig).
The night I saw them they didn't do Brown Sugar or Jumpin Jack Flash. I was so disappointed.
Here is the set list from that night.
DATE: 5/18/76
Venue: New Bingley Hall - Stafford, UK
Setlist:
Honkey Tonk Women
If You Can't Rock Me
Get Off My Cloud
Hand of Fate
Hey Negrita
Ain't Too Proud to Beg
Fool to Cry
Hot Stuff
@#$%&
You Gotta Move
Can't Always Get What You Want
Happy
Tumbling DIce
Nothin From Nothin
Outta Space
Midnoght Rambler
It's Only Rock and Roll
Street Fighting Man
Confimed here [www.frayed.org]
The next night they did BS and JJF right after IORR (as they did on most of the rest of the tour) and they also did SFTD (as an encore?).
Did they ever not play JJF and BS at a large gig from 1970 onwards, it must have been pretty exceptional.
The concert was terrible I'm sad to say, Bingley Hall is a big cow shed (I kid you not), the acoustics were the worst, and it was way too loud, all I heard was distorted overload for most the the songs and I was about midway back. I was a 16 year old kid, the only Stones fan at school, I travelled on my own to the gig from Birmingham (might not seem like much to you but quite an adventure for a working class kid who never went anywhere). I didn't think much about it at the time, it was great just seeing them, but when I reflect back on it and having listened to a lot of stuff on that tour I know they were not great that year (Mick's singing is at an all time low).
I remember Charles Shaar Murray in NME complaining about the volume at one of the earlier gigs. He said something about having the top of his head sliced off by the opening chords of HTW and shouting "TURN It DOWN". I think they were trying to break some indoor decibel record that The Who had set a few weeks earlier.
I wish I'd seen them in 72.
I've only ever seen the Stones once at the first Stafford Bingley Hall in 1976 (Keith crashed the car on the way home to London after the next nights gig).
The night I saw them they didn't do Brown Sugar or Jumpin Jack Flash. I was so disappointed.
Here is the set list from that night.
DATE: 5/18/76
Venue: New Bingley Hall - Stafford, UK
Setlist:
Honkey Tonk Women
If You Can't Rock Me
Get Off My Cloud
Hand of Fate
Hey Negrita
Ain't Too Proud to Beg
Fool to Cry
Hot Stuff
@#$%&
You Gotta Move
Can't Always Get What You Want
Happy
Tumbling DIce
Nothin From Nothin
Outta Space
Midnoght Rambler
It's Only Rock and Roll
Street Fighting Man
Confimed here [www.frayed.org]
The next night they did BS and JJF right after IORR (as they did on most of the rest of the tour) and they also did SFTD (as an encore?).
Did they ever not play JJF and BS at a large gig from 1970 onwards, it must have been pretty exceptional.
The concert was terrible I'm sad to say, Bingley Hall is a big cow shed (I kid you not), the acoustics were the worst, and it was way too loud, all I heard was distorted overload for most the the songs and I was about midway back. I was a 16 year old kid, the only Stones fan at school, I travelled on my own to the gig from Birmingham (might not seem like much to you but quite an adventure for a working class kid who never went anywhere). I didn't think much about it at the time, it was great just seeing them, but when I reflect back on it and having listened to a lot of stuff on that tour I know they were not great that year (Mick's singing is at an all time low).
I remember Charles Shaar Murray in NME complaining about the volume at one of the earlier gigs. He said something about having the top of his head sliced off by the opening chords of HTW and shouting "TURN It DOWN". I think they were trying to break some indoor decibel record that The Who had set a few weeks earlier.
I wish I'd seen them in 72.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
6853
()
Date: April 24, 2011 10:36
great report thanks
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
()
Date: April 24, 2011 10:38
Nice story. Thank you
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Keep On Rolling
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Keep On Rolling
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
midnrambler
()
Date: April 24, 2011 11:02
Zentrgaf lists JJF but not BS. Obviously he is wrong.
760518A 18th May: Stafford, England, New Bingley Hall
(Honky Tonk Women/If You Can’t Rock Me-Get Off Of My Cloud/Hand
Of Fate/Hey Negrita/Ain’t Too Proud To Beg/Fool To Cry/Hot Stuff/Star
Star/You Gotta Move/You Can’t Always Get What You Want/Band
introduction/Happy/Tumbling Dice/Nothing From Nothing/Outa Space/
Midnight Rambler/Jumping Jack Flash/Street Fighting Man)
760518A 18th May: Stafford, England, New Bingley Hall
(Honky Tonk Women/If You Can’t Rock Me-Get Off Of My Cloud/Hand
Of Fate/Hey Negrita/Ain’t Too Proud To Beg/Fool To Cry/Hot Stuff/Star
Star/You Gotta Move/You Can’t Always Get What You Want/Band
introduction/Happy/Tumbling Dice/Nothing From Nothing/Outa Space/
Midnight Rambler/Jumping Jack Flash/Street Fighting Man)
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 24, 2011 12:54
Actually I am 100% certain they didn't do Brown Sugar (my favourite Stones track and the greatest guitar sound known to man) - I couldn't believe it.
They may have done JJF - seriously - it would have been hard to tell with the up-tempo numbers the sound was THAT bad. It was 35 years ago so my memory is slightly dimmed (but not about BS because I remember the disappointment)!
I'm less certain about not doing JJF, before I looked for confirmation on the frayed website I would have said "no Brown Sugar" only, but as someone said the website is probably wrong.
I remember the support band (The Meters?) didn't go down too well.
They may have done JJF - seriously - it would have been hard to tell with the up-tempo numbers the sound was THAT bad. It was 35 years ago so my memory is slightly dimmed (but not about BS because I remember the disappointment)!
I'm less certain about not doing JJF, before I looked for confirmation on the frayed website I would have said "no Brown Sugar" only, but as someone said the website is probably wrong.
I remember the support band (The Meters?) didn't go down too well.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
guitarbastard
()
Date: April 24, 2011 13:20
interesting story. why didnt u go to any other stones shows since then?
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 24, 2011 13:23
Because I discovered the Bible and The Stones were a guilty secret.
But now I have undiscovered the Bible so we're cooking on gas gas gas again.
But now I have undiscovered the Bible so we're cooking on gas gas gas again.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
FreeBird
()
Date: April 24, 2011 13:54
I thought they played Jumpin' Jack Flash at every concert since its release...
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 24, 2011 14:02
When I was looking for the setlist the the frayed website was the first one I read. I think now it's wrong, but there was definitely no Brown Sugar.Quote
FreeBird
I thought they played Jumpin' Jack Flash at every concert since its release...
I agree, they play it too fast and Keith doesn't play it properly - the opening riff anyway - in the same way he never plays JJF opening riff properly either.Quote
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
But back when I was a kid I wanted to hear Brown Sugar most of all.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: April 24, 2011 14:14
There's a few club shows where JJF wasn't played....Quote
FreeBird
I thought they played Jumpin' Jack Flash at every concert since its release...
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
Amsterdam 26.5.1995
Amsterdam 27.5.1995
Sydney 18.2.2003
& Stockholm 22.7.2003
There may be a couple more ala '70's that I'm not aware of..........
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 24, 2011 14:17
I just found a website where I can buy a 2 disc CD of all of this very concert 18th May 1976 (it includes JJF but no BS).
There are sound samples as well!
Sounds nearly as bad as I remember it.
SFTD was an encore at Earls Court.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-04-24 14:38 by GravityBoy.
There are sound samples as well!
Sounds nearly as bad as I remember it.
SFTD was an encore at Earls Court.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-04-24 14:38 by GravityBoy.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 24, 2011 14:37
I wish I could read.
I was at the 17th May 1976 gig (not the 18th). The first of two Stafford New Bingley Hall gigs.
They didn't play Brown Sugar TWO nights running.
I can't find a set list for the 17th though.
Keith crashed his car after the 18th gig.
I was at the 17th May 1976 gig (not the 18th). The first of two Stafford New Bingley Hall gigs.
They didn't play Brown Sugar TWO nights running.
I can't find a set list for the 17th though.
Keith crashed his car after the 18th gig.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: April 24, 2011 14:46
I've got a boot of Stafford with no Brown sugar - although it's a combination of the 17th & 18th, has a blue cover & a picture of Mick on the back holding his hands to his head, - palms facing out.............called Stafford '76..........Quote
GravityBoy
I wish I could read.
I was at the 17th May 1976 gig (not the 18th). The first of two Stafford New Bingley Hall gigs.
They didn't play Brown Sugar TWO nights running.
I can't find a set list for the 17th though.
Keith crashed his car after the 18th gig.
This site doesn't have JJF on the 18th....... [www.frayed.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-04-24 14:52 by EddieByword.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
Tumblin_Dice_07
()
Date: April 24, 2011 17:49
Quote
FreeBird
I thought they played Jumpin' Jack Flash at every concert since its release...
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
"Brown Sugar" never really worked live? Wow, never thought I'd hear that. Have you heard any of the performances from '72/'73?
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: April 24, 2011 18:11
"Have you heard any of the performances from '72/'73?"
Or some from 75 : it was right after Preston's interlude and some nights you could hear Keith played the BS intro with a vengeance!
Or some from 75 : it was right after Preston's interlude and some nights you could hear Keith played the BS intro with a vengeance!
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
franzk
()
Date: April 24, 2011 20:50
Quote
EddieBywordThere's a few club shows where JJF wasn't played....Quote
FreeBird
I thought they played Jumpin' Jack Flash at every concert since its release...
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
Amsterdam 26.5.1995
Amsterdam 27.5.1995
Sydney 18.2.2003
& Stockholm 22.7.2003
There may be a couple more ala '70's that I'm not aware of..........
Also one of the Atlantic City '89 shows.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
FreeBird
()
Date: April 24, 2011 23:43
Certainly. Especially the intro just can't touch the Muscle Shoals recording.Quote
Tumblin_Dice_07
"Brown Sugar" never really worked live? Wow, never thought I'd hear that. Have you heard any of the performances from '72/'73?
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
GravityBoy
()
Date: April 25, 2011 00:15
Quote
FreeBirdCertainly. Especially the intro just can't touch the Muscle Shoals recording.Quote
Tumblin_Dice_07
"Brown Sugar" never really worked live? Wow, never thought I'd hear that. Have you heard any of the performances from '72/'73?
The first two chords of the Muscle Shoals recording are the greatest guitar sound ever recorded.
They had pretty good go at it at Altamont though.
Keith rarely played it like this in the years afterwards.
Maybe he forgot what it was like.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-04-25 00:16 by GravityBoy.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
stonescrow
()
Date: April 25, 2011 02:45
Quote
GravityBoy
Hello everyone, long time lurker first time post.
I've only ever seen the Stones once at the first Stafford Bingley Hall in 1976 (Keith crashed the car on the way home to London after the next nights gig).
The night I saw them they didn't do Brown Sugar or Jumpin Jack Flash. I was so disappointed.
Here is the set list from that night.
DATE: 5/18/76
Venue: New Bingley Hall - Stafford, UK
Setlist:
Honkey Tonk Women
If You Can't Rock Me
Get Off My Cloud
Hand of Fate
Hey Negrita
Ain't Too Proud to Beg
Fool to Cry
Hot Stuff
@#$%&
You Gotta Move
Can't Always Get What You Want
Happy
Tumbling DIce
Nothin From Nothin
Outta Space
Midnoght Rambler
It's Only Rock and Roll
Street Fighting Man
Confimed here [www.frayed.org]
The next night they did BS and JJF right after IORR (as they did on most of the rest of the tour) and they also did SFTD (as an encore?).
Did they ever not play JJF and BS at a large gig from 1970 onwards, it must have been pretty exceptional.
The concert was terrible I'm sad to say, Bingley Hall is a big cow shed (I kid you not), the acoustics were the worst, and it was way too loud, all I heard was distorted overload for most the the songs and I was about midway back. I was a 16 year old kid, the only Stones fan at school, I travelled on my own to the gig from Birmingham (might not seem like much to you but quite an adventure for a working class kid who never went anywhere). I didn't think much about it at the time, it was great just seeing them, but when I reflect back on it and having listened to a lot of stuff on that tour I know they were not great that year (Mick's singing is at an all time low).
I remember Charles Shaar Murray in NME complaining about the volume at one of the earlier gigs. He said something about having the top of his head sliced off by the opening chords of HTW and shouting "TURN It DOWN". I think they were trying to break some indoor decibel record that The Who had set a few weeks earlier.
I wish I'd seen them in 72.
Hope they at least leave Brown Sugar off the next tour's set list and replace it with Out Of Control. Always want to hear JJF.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
stones78
()
Date: April 25, 2011 03:01
Quote
Tumblin_Dice_07Quote
FreeBird
I thought they played Jumpin' Jack Flash at every concert since its release...
Well, anyway, I wouldn't be too disappointed about the lack of Brown Sugar. That's just one of those songs that, to my ears, never really worked live.
"Brown Sugar" never really worked live? Wow, never thought I'd hear that. Have you heard any of the performances from '72/'73?
For me they never nailed the groove of the original, especially in 72', 73', it sounded too fast. Also the lack of Keith's fantastic backing vocals didn't help a lot. The version at Julliard in 2005 was the best they done in ages.
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
melillo
()
Date: April 25, 2011 05:10
Quote
GravityBoy
Hello everyone, long time lurker first time post.
thought i was listening to mike and the mad dog for a second
Re: No Brown Sugar No Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: April 25, 2011 09:33
Quote
GravityBoy
They had pretty good go at it at Altamont though.
Keith rarely played it like this in the years afterwards.
Maybe he forgot what it was like.
That is true. It is the best played Brown Sugar ever. And no it never really worked that fine live again although I love the 1972 version. 1975 is great too (thanks to Preston actually).
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