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Lots of people, fans and non-fans think that Ronnie is an average guitarist, especially compared to Mr Taylor Mick.
It may be true for some songs, studio and live stuff.

But for some others, I consider that Ronnie has shown very interesting technical abilities, especially on live material

at the moment, I'm listening to the L.A show, july 11th, 1975 and you should listen to numbers like That's Life and Outta Space and you will hear a quite unusual and excellent Ronnie.

Do you have other examples where Ron shows some interesting technical abilities ?

It's not wizardry, but more than technical enough to shut up people who says he is average

Ronnie Wood is One Of The BEST guitar player. He is awsome on B&B SG ER TY UC etc. His best tours are 1975/1976, 1978, 1981/82 IMO



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Ronnie is an AMAZING guitar player- fluid, creative, melodic, sympathetic and responsive. He adds so much colour and a beautiful natural feel to The Stones sound.
And the there is the Faces. Wow.
Possibly the most underrated guitarist in the history of rock n roll.

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Ronnie is an AMAZING guitar player- fluid, creative, melodic, sympathetic and responsive. He adds so much colour and a beautiful natural feel to The Stones sound.

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Talking Technical abilities of Ron Wood as a rough rock-guitarist he is a 10/10 in my world...together with Keith of course...

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I don't think he's average at all. I think he has his own style, most apparent in his work with Rod/Faces and on stuff like Hey Negrita, and much of the Some Girls album. I don't think criticisms of Wood here have really been about his technical prowess.

and an xcellent mime as evidenced here- his sound with the Faces was much dirtier and crunchier- understandable in the Faces one guitar context....


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Ronnie is a lot like Steve Cropper- a songwriter, soulful, with a lot of humor in his playing, a great accompanist, and when he wants, a very creative soloist. Very capable as a producer in the studio.

He may not be the greatest singer but he does all right.

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Ronnie is a lot like Steve Cropper- a songwriter, soulful, with a lot of humor in his playing, a great accompanist, and when he wants, a very creative soloist. Very capable as a producer in the studio.

He may not be the greatest singer but he does all right.

a ridiculous delusional statement, with the stones his imput on record is a minor role, his input live is to replicate the majority of guitar parts already done (and carry Keith fairly often). he aint fit to wipe Cropper's boots - cropper is an innovator, co-wrote some outstanding material and had a key role in one of the greatest house bands ever. Ronnie mainly comes into his own when playing live and covering Keith's ass

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Ronnie is a lot like Steve Cropper- a songwriter, soulful, with a lot of humor in his playing, a great accompanist, and when he wants, a very creative soloist. Very capable as a producer in the studio.

He may not be the greatest singer but he does all right.

a ridiculous delusional statement, with the stones his imput on record is a minor role, his input live is to replicate the majority of guitar parts already done (and carry Keith fairly often). he aint fit to wipe Cropper's boots - cropper is an innovator, co-wrote some outstanding material and had a key role in one of the greatest house bands ever. Ronnie mainly comes into his own when playing live and covering Keith's ass

Actually not, since Steve has a very minimalistic playing style, and rarely goes for lengthy fluid "story-telling" solos.

If you listen to the Jimmy Reed blues shows Ronnie did with Taylor, you'll find that the comparison is valid.

The guitar work he did with the Faces was very innovative. His solo albums have some very nice guitar work, as well as some very clever lyrics! With the Stones there are some songs he's done some great work on, but for the most part I think he's been under utilized... and I've never understood why!



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agree with you OCarol.

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Ronnie is a lot like Steve Cropper- a songwriter, soulful, with a lot of humor in his playing, a great accompanist, and when he wants, a very creative soloist. Very capable as a producer in the studio.

He may not be the greatest singer but he does all right.

a ridiculous delusional statement, with the stones his imput on record is a minor role, his input live is to replicate the majority of guitar parts already done (and carry Keith fairly often). he aint fit to wipe Cropper's boots - cropper is an innovator, co-wrote some outstanding material and had a key role in one of the greatest house bands ever. Ronnie mainly comes into his own when playing live and covering Keith's ass

Actually not, since Steve has a very minimalistic playing style, and rarely goes for lengthy fluid "story-telling" solos.

If you listen to the Jimmy Reed blues shows Ronnie did with Taylor, you'll find that the comparison is valid.

hmmm- I see captainchaos is a Steve Cropper fan, as I am.

Thank You, DP- you're a pro and I respect your input.

to the captain- cropper is an innovator, co-wrote some outstanding material and had a key role in one of the greatest house bands ever

if you don't see that this could apply equally to Ronnie Wood, except Ronnie hasn't played in a 'house band', like the Stax players) ...then we agree to disagree but no, I'm not delusional.

Listen to Heartbreaker on LA Friday 75 ... of course it is about 40 years ago, but it is Ronnie ...

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Ronnie is a lot like Steve Cropper- a songwriter, soulful, with a lot of humor in his playing, a great accompanist, and when he wants, a very creative soloist. Very capable as a producer in the studio.

He may not be the greatest singer but he does all right.

a ridiculous delusional statement, with the stones his imput on record is a minor role, his input live is to replicate the majority of guitar parts already done (and carry Keith fairly often). he aint fit to wipe Cropper's boots - cropper is an innovator, co-wrote some outstanding material and had a key role in one of the greatest house bands ever. Ronnie mainly comes into his own when playing live and covering Keith's ass

Actually not, since Steve has a very minimalistic playing style, and rarely goes for lengthy fluid "story-telling" solos.

If you listen to the Jimmy Reed blues shows Ronnie did with Taylor, you'll find that the comparison is valid.

hmmm- I see captainchaos is a Steve Cropper fan, as I am.

Thank You, DP- you're a pro and I respect your input.

to the captain- cropper is an innovator, co-wrote some outstanding material and had a key role in one of the greatest house bands ever

if you don't see that this could apply equally to Ronnie Wood, except Ronnie hasn't played in a 'house band', like the Stax players) ...then we agree to disagree but no, I'm not delusional.

to imitate, is not to innovate - the sheer volume of top notch songs he's co-wrote when compared to Ronnie Wood is a massive mismatch. The stylistic leanings in the natural playing also shows a missmatch, the idea of carrying lead whilst playing rytham as the sole guitarist and comparing to ronnie, well..
The technique, flair, restraint and execution Cropper has shown with the MG's and also on other material - Ronnie has no match for this. sure he can immitate players wooo. To be creative and have that creative thought executed as cropper did is no way the same as imitating someone by playin covers. whats better, the original concept and execution or just the replication.

Ronnie is a good player, not a creative player and does his job of holding the stones together on stage. when asked to be creative, instinctive he gets shown up by better players (ie Taylor) anyhow thats a dif discussion..

Ronnie's good and plays well but he aint by anyway a Steve Cropper.

I'll agree that Steve Cropper has written or co-written a long list of great songs. No argument that he's one of the best. As a guitarist I think Ronnie Wood's playing, as immediately identifiable as Cropper's, hold up solo, with the Faces, and with the Rolling Stones, as a sideman or a leader.

Listen to Rod Stewart's early work. Ron IS the guitar and is as essential as Rod's voice. Maybe he doesn't totally get to flex his muscles with the Stones in the studio, but he usually does live and he's just an all around great guitarist.

He is a good player, but something happened to him when he joined the Stones. I don't know if it was by design or not to show up Keith, but there was no longer even remotely a separation between lead and rhythm guitars. The Stones lost tons of fans as they moved away from the hard rock sound during the Taylor years to the ancient weaving crap that they claim to play since.

He has sausages for fingers.

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He has sausages for fingers.

That would be Keef???

He had some good chops and raunch from the beginning. He could have been playing with the Stones in 1965.

He was brilliant at the Atlantic City show a few years ago

I suspect many here don't know what Ronnie did on the Rod Stewart/Faces-albums.

That is not imitating. Please name other players with a similar style.

He's good in the context of the Stones. He's a clichéd rock guitar player (as far as technical ability). I've transcribed many of his solos - and it's 99% pentatonic rock scale patterns - and NOT very rhythmically dynamic---rather sloppy if I say so myself---particularly his live stuff. But, he also happens to be in one of the biggest rock bands the world has known. Not many guys can do that. But if he were just some joe schmoe playing weekends - he'd be pretty average and he would find most guys/gals could play circles around him.

I would agree with some of the previous remarks - his playing with the Faces was much better.

Everybody has been a Joe Schmoe. You're talking about solos. What he did in the Faces was unique. His best solos were probably with the Stones on the 75/76-tours.

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Everybody has been a Joe Schmoe. You're talking about solos. What he did in the Faces was unique. His best solos were probably with the Stones on the 75/76-tours.

Ah, now you've done it. I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence.

Indispensible with Rod though.

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Everybody has been a Joe Schmoe. You're talking about solos. What he did in the Faces was unique. His best solos were probably with the Stones on the 75/76-tours.

Ah, now you've done it. I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence.

Indispensible with Rod though.

I didn't say his best guitar playing. I said his best solos

He didn't play a lot of extended solos in the Faces or with Rod.



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Everybody has been a Joe Schmoe. You're talking about solos. What he did in the Faces was unique. His best solos were probably with the Stones on the 75/76-tours.

Ah, now you've done it. I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence.

Indispensible with Rod though.

I didn't say his best guitar playing. I said his best solos

He didn't play a lot of extended solos in the Faces or with Rod.

True that.