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NoCode0680
I've personally never heard all that much similarity between "Anybody Seen My Baby?" and "Constant Craving". I mean, there's some, and it was probably a good idea to give k.d. Lang and Ben Mink credit, and I can kind of hear it, but if it weren't for the fact that I have been told that they had to give them credit due to similarities, I don't think I would have picked up on it myself.

Writing music is a difficult thing, and it's tough to block out all the songs you've heard and not accidentally let them influence you, even if just subconsciously. I personally "wrote" a song that later turned out to be "Merchandise" by Fugazi. And I don't even remember hearing that song prior to the day I bought the CD and was shocked to hear a song almost identical to the one I wrote. But I must have heard it at a party or something, or at some point in the past and forgotten about it, then later "came up with it" one day on my guitar.

i've been teaching guitar for long enough , and whenever somebody has three chords the next time i see them waddayou know they "wrote " a song. happens every time !

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GravityBoy
"Starfuucker" and just about any Chuck B.... er... T Bone Walker song.

I never understood the big deal.

There is only so much you can do with 12 notes.

Everyone rips off everyone.

Most of it goes back to Irish tunes anyway.

and a lot of them have identical second parts as well !

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NeddieFlanders
>Chuck Berry could sue everyone.

But he shouldn't (like he did with The Beatles/John Lennon for lifting some words from You Can't Catch Me for Come Together). Chuck Berry himself nicked much more, e.g. from a 1945 song (Wynonie Harris' Around The Clock) for Reelin' And Rockin'.





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He got the showmanship and the double stops from T-Bone. He lifted many licks, even songs, from Carl Hogan.

There's nothing new under the sun.........everybody coping something from the past and make it them own !!! (

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How about the following:

1. Trouble No More - Muddy Waters: Someday Baby - Bob Dylan
2. Handy Dandy - Bob Dylan: Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
3. On A Monday - Leadbelly: I Got Stripes - Johnny Cash
4. Mystery Train/Tiger Man - Elvis Presley (1969) - The Big Light - Elvis Costello
5. Crescent City Blues: Gordon Jenkins - Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
6. Willie O'Wensbury - Sweeney's Men - Farewell Farewell - Fairport Convention
7. Bolero - Ravel : White Rabbit - Great Society & Jefferson Airplane
8. Parcibel's Canon - All Together Now: The Farm
9. Peggy Day - Bob Dylan: I Got A Woman - Elvis Presley 1956 - check out the ending
10. School Days - Chuck Berry: No Particular Place to Go - Chuck Berry
11. Sweet Lil Sixteen - Chuck Berry: Surfin' USA - The Beach Boys
12. Promised Land - Johnnie Allen - Paddy Rollin' Stone - Shane MacGowan & Popes
13. Pass The Tu Seng Peng - Frankie Paul : Pass The Dutchie - Musical Youth
14. O Carolina - The Foulkes Brothers : O Carolina - Shaggy
15. Help Me - Sonny Boy Williamson - Green Onions - Booker T & The Mgs
16. Ripple - The Grateful Dead - Any Dream Will Do - Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice
17. So What - Miles Davis - Cold Sweat - James Brown

I should add that Shaggy borrowed liberally from the Foulkes Brothers O Carolina without acknowledging them.

I would also add Rollin & Tumblin by Muddy Waters, followed by Bob Dylan's version on Modern Times.

I think Mess Around by Ray Charles has the same riff as Cow Cow Boogie by Cowcow Davenport. Ray also used the Mess Around riff, much later, in 1959 for What'd I Say.
Jessie Hill used What'd I Say for Oo Poo Pa Doo.

What else: Some Kind of Wonderful by the Soul Brothers Six was used by Rod Stewart for An Old Raincoat Won't Ever Let You Down, and also used, subsequently, for Three Button Hand Me Down by The Faces on First Step. Rod also covered Street Fighting Man on Old Raincoat, but also worked in a quote from We Love You.

Jack Clement also wrote Guess Things Happen That Way based on When The Red Red Robin goes Bob-Bob-Bobbing Along. Johnny Cash admitted as much on VH1 Storytellers. Cash also rearranged Chris Cornell's Rusty Case to sound like Ghost Riders In The Sky.

Rusty Cage I mean.

Monkey See, Monkey Do.

What Goes Around... Comes Around.

Chuck Berry got his famous intro riffs from Louis Jordan in 1946.
The riffs probably existed before this as well.









The Eagles got Hotel California from Jethro Tull





Satisfaction riff is based on Nowhere To Run





Last Time is based on Hmmmm! This May Be The Last Time





Tumbling Dice seems to have it's verse influenced by Grand Funk from 1969.





Shake Your Hips and then ZZ Top's La Grange are based on John Lee Hooker and ZZ Top's La Grange might be more based on Shake Your Hips.
The Honky Tonk Women riff is a John Lee Hooker based riff.





Deep Purple









Led Zep






Loads more riffs and other things being ripped or altered and turned around a bit by other people exist in the past and it continues now.

Some are just blatant rips and some are subtle twists rips.

Lady Madonna is a Fat's Domino inspired song but McCartney doesn't rip one of Fat's songs but just uses the Fat's Domino style for Lady Madonna and maybe turns some Fat's Domino things around a bit.



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Lady Madonna is based on a Humphrey Lyttleton tune called Bad Penny Blues

this is obviously not a big deal in the world of Hip Hop and Rap where every song sounds the same but with different lyrics....my favorites is 'Mobb Deep'....

2 1 2 0

Howled, good call on "We Used to Know" and "Hotel California". When I first started playing one of the earliest groups I did a show with was a cover band. We did the Jethro Tull cut, and later on the Eagles thing. That is when I noticed how similar they were but in all the years I have never heard anyone else mention it.

There are so many... let me think about that

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Rocknroll1969
Every Chuck Berry song sounds the same.

And yet, they all sound different.

Killing Joke - "Eighties" ...Nirvana's " Come As You Are
Boston - "More Than a Feeling" ...Nirvana´s "Smells Like Teen Spirit"

Leadbelly's Where Did You Sleep, Last Night.

Nirvana's In The Pines

Papa Was A Rollin' Stone/ Out oF Control

Los Lobos - The Mess We're In (1987)

vs

Bruce Springsteen - Real World (1992)


Bruce does a lengthy intro with the backing vocalists wailing away but then goes straight to the Lobos' melody on both the verses and the chorus.

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tomcasagranda
Leadbelly's Where Did You Sleep, Last Night.

Nirvana's In The Pines

Nirvana gave all the credit to Leadbelly - so it´s not plagiarism, it´s a cover version.

Child in time by Deep Purple was based on the song Bombay calling by It's a Beautiful Day from their first album.

Albert Hammond sang two songs on the same tune, his hit It never rains in California, and Moonlight lady.

And my mother, who did not speak or understand English, stated that Simon and Garfunkel based their song American tune on the old German church hymn O Haupt voll Blut und Wunden (which is public domain, of course).



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Los Lobos has said that Paul Simon ripped some things off them btw

[www.jambase.com]

To memphiscats,

I have always noticed a similarity between "Bitch" and "Get Ready" - particularly the Rare Earth live version.

Aerosmith's "Sweet Emotion" and the Stone's "We Love You"
Aerosmith's "Walk This Way" and the ending of the Stone's "Monkey Man"

The Stones sorta ripped off the Four Tops Same Old Song
















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MarshaH
The Stones sorta ripped off the Four Tops Same Old Song

"Same Old Song" was "(Sugar Pie Honey Bunch) I Can't Help Myself" re-written. The title even alludes to this.

"No Anchovies, Please"

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Jelly Face Joe
To memphiscats,

I have always noticed a similarity between "Bitch" and "Get Ready" - particularly the Rare Earth live version.

Cheers, Jelly Face Joe- love your name

While we're talking about The Last Time over in the Track Talk, here's the version that caused all the trouble with Bittersweet Symphony:

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Green Lady
While we're talking about The Last Time over in the Track Talk, here's the version that caused all the trouble with Bittersweet Symphony:

Thanks, Green Lady - I never heard this before - it's uncanny.

The only original things on Bittersweet Symphonyare the lyrics and the skipping string motif.

In saying that, I think it is an amazing song.

When ears go wrong.

I noticed on Bowie's Rebel Rebel wiki page that "Queenage Baby" was supposed to sound like "Rebel Rebel", so I check it out and there is no riff, different chords (12 bar blues) and different melody.

Yeah Right, sounds just like "Rebel Rebel".

It's just an old Boogie.

But I expect some non musicians to come along and say it does sound similar or "Queenage Baby" is a better song, so whatever.





[www.punkglobe.com]

"The next song, which was accompanied by baby carriages on stage, is a song that many rock scholars view as a prototype for Bowie's  "Rebel Rebel". The song is "Queenage Baby", and it's the definitive song of the glitter era, period. Stones-ish riffs and strong language served as a taste of what NY crowds thrilled to whenever Wayne County & the Backstreet Boys did a "live' show."

[www.allmusic.com]

"and, fascinatingly, "Queenage Baby," a song that County has always insisted was a profound influence on Bowie's "Rebel Rebel" and...guess what? It probably was."







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Elmo Lewis
Papa Was A Rollin' Stone/ Out oF Control

Ooh... I had never noticed before, but you're right.

unless its a blatant blatant ripoff,...i dont care. I wonder if Mozart, Bach, Wagner, Strauss and that crew went through this "I was ripped off"?