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Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: March 28, 2014 19:50

Just seems so odd that its like the only one (if not THE only one). I mean, he plays slow songs during his mini set and this one is probably just as unknown as his post Tattoo You slow songs. If he pulls out T&A at times (which I love but seems as random as Coming Down Again), I don't see why he's never played this Goat's Head Soup classic.

Has it been said?

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 28, 2014 19:56

YES! Keith has said the song is far too close to his heart/life to share with an audience. ( Sorry, I have no link ).

CE

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: shattered ()
Date: March 28, 2014 19:58

I think we are ready for Rock and a Hard Place.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: March 28, 2014 20:11

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Cocaine Eyes
YES! Keith has said the song is far too close to his heart/life to share with an audience. ( Sorry, I have no link ).

Interesting. I guess thats fair. I guess I'd feel maybe Slipping Away or You Got The Silver are close to his heart too, but I guess Coming Down Again is more personal. Thats a fair reason if true.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 28, 2014 20:55

But 'Coming Down Again' is all about his drug troubles and the "where are all my friends" is significant. And also about "slipped my tongue into someone else's pie" is significant. Above all, the tune is really about him and him alone. There's no way (in my opinion) one could interpret the song about someone else .

CE smoking smiley

Examples:
These could be about anyone:
-"Miss You"
- "Slipping Away" is really about life in general
- "Happy" could apply to anyone
- "She's So Cold" could be about anyone

On and on..........

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: big4 ()
Date: March 28, 2014 21:54

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Cocaine Eyes
But 'Coming Down Again' is all about his drug troubles and the "where are all my friends" is significant. And also about "slipped my tongue into someone else's pie" is significant. Above all, the tune is really about him and him alone. There's no way (in my opinion) one could interpret the song about someone else .

CE smoking smiley

Examples:
These could be about anyone:
-"Miss You"
- "Slipping Away" is really about life in general
- "Happy" could apply to anyone
- "She's So Cold" could be about anyone

On and on..........


Happy and Before They Make Me Run are also personal Keith songs as well.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: LongBeachArena72 ()
Date: March 29, 2014 00:52

Quote
Cocaine Eyes
YES! Keith has said the song is far too close to his heart/life to share with an audience. ( Sorry, I have no link ).

CE

But not too close to his heart to put on a record that millions of people would listen to? Not sure about this. Maybe.

I always thought it was because Mick's backup vocals are KEY to that song ... and given the fact they no longer sing together ...

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 29, 2014 01:15

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Cocaine Eyes
YES! Keith has said the song is far too close to his heart/life to share with an audience. ( Sorry, I have no link ).

CE

Sorry CE dear, but are you sure you're not misremembering?
Until further notice, that sounds like a statement from someone other than Keith.
RollingFreak, why not ask him on the "Ask Keith" function on his site?

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:01

Quote
big4
Quote
Cocaine Eyes
But 'Coming Down Again' is all about his drug troubles and the "where are all my friends" is significant. And also about "slipped my tongue into someone else's pie" is significant. Above all, the tune is really about him and him alone. There's no way (in my opinion) one could interpret the song about someone else .

CE smoking smiley

Examples:
These could be about anyone:
-"Miss You"
- "Slipping Away" is really about life in general
- "Happy" could apply to anyone
- "She's So Cold" could be about anyone

On and on..........


Happy and Before They Make Me Run are also personal Keith songs as well.

Indeed they are, especially "Before They Make Me Run".But these songs don't address the notion of feeling loneliness in extreme times of chaos.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:05

Quote
LongBeachArena72
Quote
Cocaine Eyes
YES! Keith has said the song is far too close to his heart/life to share with an audience. ( Sorry, I have no link ).

CE

But not too close to his heart to put on a record that millions of people would listen to? Not sure about this. Maybe.

I always thought it was because Mick's backup vocals are KEY to that song ... and given the fact they no longer sing together ...

That's Keith's manner of expression - song writing from his soul. About putting the tune on a record - all the more reason/manner of expression.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:08

bein' hungry, it ain't no crime

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:10

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with sssoul
Quote
Cocaine Eyes
YES! Keith has said the song is far too close to his heart/life to share with an audience. ( Sorry, I have no link ).

CE

Sorry CE dear, but are you sure you're not misremembering?
Until further notice, that sounds like a statement from someone other than Keith.
RollingFreak, why not ask him on the "Ask Keith" function on his site?

Well dear, Keith told me himself that was his reason for never singing it in concert. Maybe you should ask him and see what he says now. And I do agree with you, with age my memory is fading........

smoking smiley

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:27

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with sssoul
RollingFreak, why not ask him on the "Ask Keith" function on his site?
Thought about it but just figured there was no shot he'd ever answer it. Guess there's no harm in trying though.

Just seems so strange when he's playing something as obscure as Learning The Game its like he's actively avoiding this one. If it was a later Keith track, I would understand, but seriously this is from a period people were really into the Stones.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:31

but seriously this is from a period people were really into the Stones.

....heck my period has been goin' since about somewhere like 1962



ROCKMAN

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:40

Keith explaining to a magazine in 2002:

In 2002, Richards said: "I wonder about the songs I've written: I really like the ones I did when I was on (heroin). I wouldn't have written 'Coming Down Again' without that. I'm this millionaire rock star, but I'm in the gutter with these other sniveling people. It kept me in touch with the street, at the lowest level

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: March 29, 2014 02:49

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Rockman
but seriously this is from a period people were really into the Stones.

....heck my period has been goin' since about somewhere like 1962

Good thing you're not a girl. eye popping smiley

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 29, 2014 04:03

Good thing you're not a girl.....I know but then again someone's gotta be around ta do the HEAVY lifting....heehaa



ROCKMAN

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 29, 2014 10:20

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RollingFreak
Just seems so strange when he's playing something as obscure as Learning The Game its like he's actively avoiding this one. If it was a later Keith track, I would understand, but seriously this is from a period people were really into the Stones.

But but but Learning the Game fit perfectly at that Austin show,
and it seems like one of those numbers that practically plays itself.
Coming Down Again might not be easy to arrange for the stage, especially now that he's not duetting regularly with Mick.
And back in the day he was only performing rockers on stage. In 1981 he said something about wanting to sing ballads
but feeling it wouldn't be what the public wanted from their image of Keith Richards.
(And I do have a link, if the Longview Farm site is still up!)

And Cocaine Eyes sweetie, if it was a private conversation that's a bit different.
What I meant (and still think) is that it doesn't sound like something Keith would say for public consumption.
That feel he puts across in his music is essential to his performances,
so a statement that boils down to "I choose numbers that don't mean much to me or require that I share much"
doesn't seem very fitting, you know?

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: March 29, 2014 12:51

Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better ev'ry time
He turned green and tried to make me cry
Being hungry it ain't no crime

I've always thought this was about Keith getting it on with Anita Pallenburg...(and Brian being a bit cheesed off........

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 29, 2014 13:01

Quote
EddieByword
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better ev'ry time
He turned green and tried to make me cry
Being hungry it ain't no crime

I've always thought this was about Keith getting it on with Anita Pallenburg...(and Brian being a bit cheesed off........

I thought so as well. But it could also be an admission of Keith's stealing another man's woman. Hence, another statement of "where are all my friends" and also "being hungry, it ain't no crime" even though society looks down upon those who mess with other people's partners and who do drugs. No? He's admitting he's a "rank outsider" and "there's a demon in me". I think........

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: March 29, 2014 13:06

Quote
Cocaine Eyes
Quote
EddieByword
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better ev'ry time
He turned green and tried to make me cry
Being hungry it ain't no crime

I've always thought this was about Keith getting it on with Anita Pallenburg...(and Brian being a bit cheesed off........

I thought so as well. But it could also be an admission of Keith's stealing another man's woman. Hence, another statement of "where are all my friends" and also "being hungry, it ain't no crime" even though society looks down upon those who mess with other people's partners and who do drugs. No? He's admitting he's a "rank outsider" and "there's a demon in me". I think........

That's what I mean, didn't Keith make a move on Anita and pull her away from Brian after he (Brian ) got violent with Anita?.....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-03-29 13:07 by EddieByword.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Cocaine Eyes ()
Date: March 29, 2014 14:34

Quote
EddieByword
Quote
Cocaine Eyes
Quote
EddieByword
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better ev'ry time
He turned green and tried to make me cry
Being hungry it ain't no crime

I've always thought this was about Keith getting it on with Anita Pallenburg...(and Brian being a bit cheesed off........

I thought so as well. But it could also be an admission of Keith's stealing another man's woman. Hence, another statement of "where are all my friends" and also "being hungry, it ain't no crime" even though society looks down upon those who mess with other people's partners and who do drugs. No? He's admitting he's a "rank outsider" and "there's a demon in me". I think........

That's what I mean, didn't Keith make a move on Anita and pull her away from Brian after he (Brian ) got violent with Anita?.....

Oh yes, you're absolutely right. But I'm saying that "Coming Down Again" could be admitting that he (Keith) has done wrong things in the eyes of society (the perfect people). Let's face it - all the 'good people' never take another man's woman much less do the perfect people use hard drugs. He's saying right out loud - I ain't Saint Keith.

My opinions......

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: March 29, 2014 15:33

Quote
Cocaine Eyes
Quote
EddieByword
Quote
Cocaine Eyes
Quote
EddieByword
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better ev'ry time
He turned green and tried to make me cry
Being hungry it ain't no crime

I've always thought this was about Keith getting it on with Anita Pallenburg...(and Brian being a bit cheesed off........

I thought so as well. But it could also be an admission of Keith's stealing another man's woman. Hence, another statement of "where are all my friends" and also "being hungry, it ain't no crime" even though society looks down upon those who mess with other people's partners and who do drugs. No? He's admitting he's a "rank outsider" and "there's a demon in me". I think........

That's what I mean, didn't Keith make a move on Anita and pull her away from Brian after he (Brian ) got violent with Anita?.....

Oh yes, you're absolutely right. But I'm saying that "Coming Down Again" could be admitting that he (Keith) has done wrong things in the eyes of society (the perfect people). Let's face it - all the 'good people' never take another man's woman much less do the perfect people use hard drugs. He's saying right out loud - I ain't Saint Keith.

My opinions......

Ahh, right, got you..........that's right....

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: March 29, 2014 23:44

Quote
Cocaine Eyes
Quote
EddieByword
Quote
Cocaine Eyes
Quote
EddieByword
Slipped my tongue in someone else's pie
Tasting better ev'ry time
He turned green and tried to make me cry
Being hungry it ain't no crime

I've always thought this was about Keith getting it on with Anita Pallenburg...(and Brian being a bit cheesed off........

I thought so as well. But it could also be an admission of Keith's stealing another man's woman. Hence, another statement of "where are all my friends" and also "being hungry, it ain't no crime" even though society looks down upon those who mess with other people's partners and who do drugs. No? He's admitting he's a "rank outsider" and "there's a demon in me". I think........

That's what I mean, didn't Keith make a move on Anita and pull her away from Brian after he (Brian ) got violent with Anita?.....

Oh yes, you're absolutely right. But I'm saying that "Coming Down Again" could be admitting that he (Keith) has done wrong things in the eyes of society (the perfect people). Let's face it - all the 'good people' never take another man's woman much less do the perfect people use hard drugs. He's saying right out loud - I ain't Saint Keith.

My opinions......

Or just done wrong things in the eyes of Brian and his circle? I don't think he's worried about "society" here, it's his friends he's lamenting.

(Plus society--and its "petty morals"--never thought he was St. Keith.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-03-30 00:12 by Aquamarine.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: dmay ()
Date: March 29, 2014 23:52

Yeah...they ain't never eally come down.

Re: Has there ever been a reason stated why Coming Down Again has never been played live?
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: March 30, 2014 01:51

It would put everyone to SLEEP, that's WHY they don't play it! ( and I like the song....but it would not be a great addition to any set list..IMO).



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