I think , one of the best stones ballads of all time. Whats your opinion?

The mix has always been a problem for me. Muddy, even the official release.

It was the B-side of IORR at the time,and I do like it

I love that muddiness. It gives a raw, almost demo feel, as opposed to polished.
And I agree, Havo.
It's one of their best - I love the chorus and than that hook 'Everytime I see ya..'
And the fadeout....

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Havo
I think , one of the best stones ballads of all time. Whats your opinion?

Its decent, but to say its one of their best ever ballads is a heck of a stretch.

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Havo
I think , one of the best stones ballads of all time. Whats your opinion?

A piece of crap.

Please do not insult me.

to his Majesty stones weakest album was "satanic"back in 1967. i was so dissapointed. Ok--"2000 Man" hear once in a year!

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to his Majesty stones weakest album was "satanic"back in 1967. i was so dissapointed. Ok--"2000 Man" hear once in a year!

ok.

They should have make 10 takes more and remove the irritating sounding organ (or whatever it is)......song it self isn't that bad

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I have never heard that before. Definitely has that Goat's Head sound. Now I've heard all the official tracks, to my knowledge. Thanks, runaway.

An outtake, nothing more, nothing less.

Mathijs

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An outtake, nothing more, nothing less.

Mathijs

Please allow me to add...'good' outtake at least.
Many tracks become out-takes for lack of room on and album
at a particular time and or reason. It's worthy of being placed on an album.
I'm sure I could find a spot somewhere that it would fit or a song or two it could have bumped.


I think it's a pretty good one from Jagger/Richards.

I can't find any background on this song. The bass sounds too cluttered and unfocused to be Bill. I like the vocals. It's not a bad B-side.

I collected 45's back in the 80's and really wanted this for the non-b-side. Once I tracked one down I thought it was great. I often wondered however, if I was a bit clouded in judgment because it was a bit rare and such. If this was just another track on IORR I probably wouldn't have thought it was so great - or maybe I would have??

Like other posters here I hadn't heard it before--because unless you bought the 45 at the time, how would you have even known about it?

I suspect Mick wrote it around the same time as he wrote Winter, because after about the 3-minute mark the song reminds me of the playout to Winter, the same sort of vocal intonations and vaguely the same melody. But the playout of Winter is far more effective, whereas this song sounds derivative.

It's not a terrible song, but it just doesn't distinguish itself as anything more than generic, though it fulfills the purpose that a B-side should.

But I can see why it never made it as an album track. Had this been included on Tattoo You, it would have been cited as that album's one weak point.

I've always loved the track. I remember flipping the A side and playing it over and over again.
Probably wouldn't have made the album due to the other slow songs, it's a wonderful relatively unknown song.

I think it was a perfect b-side, but no way would I put it up their with their greatest ballads -- not even close, sorry!

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Like other posters here I hadn't heard it before--because unless you bought the 45 at the time, how would you have even known about it?

I suspect Mick wrote it around the same time as he wrote Winter, because after about the 3-minute mark the song reminds me of the playout to Winter, the same sort of vocal intonations and vaguely the same melody. But the playout of Winter is far more effective, whereas this song sounds derivative.

It's not a terrible song, but it just doesn't distinguish itself as anything more than generic, though it fulfills the purpose that a B-side should.

But I can see why it never made it as an album track. Had this been included on Tattoo You, it would have been cited as that album's one weak point.

Yeah, there's nothing but stone cold classics on TY........

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An outtake, nothing more, nothing less.

Mathijs

Come on Mathijs , it is a great 70's Stones track , better than a lot of material that is on Goats Head Soup or It's only Rock n Roll albums... Love Keith's wah wah (that's Keith right?) guitar and has a great outtro ... very underrated.

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stonehearted
Like other posters here I hadn't heard it before--because unless you bought the 45 at the time, how would you have even known about it?

It was on 'Rarities' in 2005.

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Please do not insult me.

He said a 'piece of', not 'total crap'.

He only insulted you a bit therefore.

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Like other posters here I hadn't heard it before--because unless you bought the 45 at the time, how would you have even known about it?

I suspect Mick wrote it around the same time as he wrote Winter, because after about the 3-minute mark the song reminds me of the playout to Winter, the same sort of vocal intonations and vaguely the same melody. But the playout of Winter is far more effective, whereas this song sounds derivative.

It's not a terrible song, but it just doesn't distinguish itself as anything more than generic, though it fulfills the purpose that a B-side should.

But I can see why it never made it as an album track. Had this been included on Tattoo You, it would have been cited as that album's one weak point.

Yeah, there's nothing but stone cold classics on TY........

Actually that's mostly true, and BTW don't give us that look!

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Like other posters here I hadn't heard it before--because unless you bought the 45 at the time, how would you have even known about it?

It was on 'Rarities' in 2005.

I own a copy of Rarities, so I have actually heard it before--a testament to the flatness of the song, at least for me.

A friend of mine knew Taylor when he was living in LA in the late '80s. THis was when CD were coming in and vinyl was bing replaced, pretty rapidly. Anyway, I had the 45 and my friend asked me to make a copy of this song for Taylor: He didn't have a copy and couldn't find it anywhere.

^ It sounds like Taylor played bass on it. The bass lines are a bit too guitar-noodly and non-bottom-heavy to be played by Bill.

I love it and always thought it was on of the Stones best ballads, a mistake not put it on LP and on the other side of a single (A side) The mix is perfect for the song.

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Like other posters here I hadn't heard it before--because unless you bought the 45 at the time, how would you have even known about it?

It was on 'Rarities' in 2005.

I own a copy of Rarities, so I have actually heard it before--a testament to the flatness of the song, at least for me.

I think it's a fine song, but I think people way oversell it. It is in no way their best ballad, I'm sure wouldn't crack the top ten.

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I think it's a fine song, but I think people way oversell it. It is in no way their best ballad, I'm sure wouldn't crack the top ten.

It's a B-side--that's all.

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Mathijs
An outtake, nothing more, nothing less.

Mathijs

Come on Mathijs , it is a great 70's Stones track , better than a lot of material that is on Goats Head Soup or It's only Rock n Roll albums... Love Keith's wah wah (that's Keith right?) guitar and has a great outtro ... very underrated.

Nope, I find it all very cliche -the music, the lyrics, the wah, the solo. It's just not very original in any way, it sounds a bit too much like a joke. With a track like Faraway Eyes the joke worked, but not here. It's also produced badly, overprocessed and distorted.

Several tracks of IORR just are on the border of being cliche (If You Really Want To Be My Friend for example), and Through TLN crosses that border.

Mathijs