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JumpinJackOLantern
They had it all! The greatest song writing duo (next to McCartney and Lennon) in the history of rock 'n roll! You just have to wonder what could have been if they had just remained close friends throughout the years. Instead of doing solo albums they could have been working together during all of those "lost years". And now they come to the end of their careers (when they need each other most) and the wounds apparently still haven't healed. Sad, very sad. Can you imagine what they could have achieved together in recent years had they just remained close? Instead of Keith writing "Life" he could have been writing new songs with his song writing partner, Mick Jagger. I am guessing if these guys had just gotten along over the years we would have had at least three more classic Stones albums with more to come. Instead we have uncertainty, with no real signs that they will ever come together again as a song writing force. Sad, very sad.
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They had it all! The greatest song writing duo (next to McCartney and Lennon) in the history of rock 'n roll! You just have to wonder what could have been if they had just remained close friends throughout the years. Instead of doing solo albums they could have been working together during all of those "lost years". And now they come to the end of their careers (when they need each other most) and the wounds apparently still haven't healed. Sad, very sad. Can you imagine what they could have achieved together in recent years had they just remained close? Instead of Keith writing "Life" he could have been writing new songs with his song writing partner, Mick Jagger. I am guessing if these guys had just gotten along over the years we would have had at least three more classic Stones albums with more to come. Instead we have uncertainty, with no real signs that they will ever come together again as a song writing force. Sad, very sad.
They are still playing, and playing great. Why should we care about the details of their relationship? And if we did, shouldn't we be impressed at how long they stayed together? Has any other duo stayed together as long, as successfully, and as productively?
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They had it all! The greatest song writing duo (next to McCartney and Lennon) in the history of rock 'n roll! You just have to wonder what could have been if they had just remained close friends throughout the years. Instead of doing solo albums they could have been working together during all of those "lost years". And now they come to the end of their careers (when they need each other most) and the wounds apparently still haven't healed. Sad, very sad. Can you imagine what they could have achieved together in recent years had they just remained close? Instead of Keith writing "Life" he could have been writing new songs with his song writing partner, Mick Jagger. I am guessing if these guys had just gotten along over the years we would have had at least three more classic Stones albums with more to come. Instead we have uncertainty, with no real signs that they will ever come together again as a song writing force. Sad, very sad.
They are still playing, and playing great. Why should we care about the details of their relationship? And if we did, shouldn't we be impressed at how long they stayed together? Has any other duo stayed together as long, as successfully, and as productively?
No doubt they are performing magnificently. They are still the greatest show on earth. It's the song writing that has suffered and we may not get that last great Stones album because the closeness just isn't there anymore.
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They had it all! The greatest song writing duo (next to McCartney and Lennon) in the history of rock 'n roll! You just have to wonder what could have been if they had just remained close friends throughout the years. Instead of doing solo albums they could have been working together during all of those "lost years". And now they come to the end of their careers (when they need each other most) and the wounds apparently still haven't healed. Sad, very sad. Can you imagine what they could have achieved together in recent years had they just remained close? Instead of Keith writing "Life" he could have been writing new songs with his song writing partner, Mick Jagger. I am guessing if these guys had just gotten along over the years we would have had at least three more classic Stones albums with more to come. Instead we have uncertainty, with no real signs that they will ever come together again as a song writing force. Sad, very sad.
They are still playing, and playing great. Why should we care about the details of their relationship? And if we did, shouldn't we be impressed at how long they stayed together? Has any other duo stayed together as long, as successfully, and as productively?
No doubt they are performing magnificently. They are still the greatest show on earth. It's the song writing that has suffered and we may not get that last great Stones album because the closeness just isn't there anymore.
I see. I guess i'm just less optimistic. In my opinion the last great Stones album was recorded 36 years ago... I admire you still holding out hope for another, but I gave up sometime on the second side of Steel Wheels in 1989. I don't know that their feud is the issue, I think possibly it's age and/or the comfort and isolation of decades of living on island retreats and suburban estates.
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24FPS
Steel Wheels should have been their swan song. What am I saying? It was! Steel Wheels was their last great album. Bill was on it. And Slipping Away was the perfect goodbye. Since then the legend is enhanced by nothing but the stage work of polishing the same golden era songs over and over. The majority of the paying public wants to pay to see them do just that. I guess, "Ladies & Gentlemen, the Greatest Oldies Band in the World!" doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Steel Wheels should have been their swan song. What am I saying? It was! Steel Wheels was their last great album. Bill was on it. And Slipping Away was the perfect goodbye. Since then the legend is enhanced by nothing but the stage work of polishing the same golden era songs over and over. The majority of the paying public wants to pay to see them do just that. I guess, "Ladies & Gentlemen, the Greatest Oldies Band in the World!" doesn't have the same ring to it.
I think Bridges was their last great album. It contains three of the greatest Stones songs ever, in my opinion. And, if only they would have released the Some Girls bonus tracks as a new album. It's a classic. It's my favorite at the moment.
Really? I mean, its all opinions (thats coming from someone that thinks A Bigger Bang is great ), but those are the two songs you don't think are that great? This is the same album that has Continental Drift and Break The Spell, which to me is just utter crap they needed to fill the album.Quote
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I pick Steel Wheels because it was the last organically made album, with the best lineup. To me the only clinkers on it are Sad, Sad, Sad and Can't Be Seen. It was a great return to form after the miserable UnderWork.
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71Tele
The songwriting partnership effectively ended years ago. What remains is a strong business partnership and performance partnership. None of this should come as a surprise to anyone.
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RollingFreakReally? I mean, its all opinions (thats coming from someone that thinks A Bigger Bang is great ), but those are the two songs you don't think are that great? This is the same album that has Continental Drift and Break The Spell, which to me is just utter crap they needed to fill the album.Quote
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I pick Steel Wheels because it was the last organically made album, with the best lineup. To me the only clinkers on it are Sad, Sad, Sad and Can't Be Seen. It was a great return to form after the miserable UnderWork.
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Steel Wheels should have been their swan song. What am I saying? It was! Steel Wheels was their last great album. Bill was on it. And Slipping Away was the perfect goodbye. Since then the legend is enhanced by nothing but the stage work of polishing the same golden era songs over and over. The majority of the paying public wants to pay to see them do just that. I guess, "Ladies & Gentlemen, the Greatest Oldies Band in the World!" doesn't have the same ring to it.
I think Bridges was their last great album. It contains three of the greatest Stones songs ever, in my opinion. And, if only they would have released the Some Girls bonus tracks as a new album. It's a classic. It's my favorite at the moment.
One fan thinks Tattoo You was their last great album, and half of that is old material. One fan thinks Bridges had some sort of value. I pick Steel Wheels because it was the last organically made album, with the best lineup. To me the only clinkers on it are Sad, Sad, Sad and Can't Be Seen. It was a great return to form after the miserable UnderWork. Everything post Steel Wheels is another band. The entire rhythm section is off. I agree that the Some Girls bonus tracks are great. They should be, they come from a time when the band was still whole.
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Every time people start threads about the Stones' personal lives and friendships and long discussions ensue, I always think of that Annie Hall scene with Marshall McLuhan.
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KatieGirl
I think Keith wrote "Life" precisely because the relationship between him and Mick was so bad he figured it couldn't get any worse. "Life" didn't ruin Mick and Keith's relationship, it just made it public. Perhaps that is what embarassed Mick. Not that Keith is blameless in any of this. The two things that make the Stones great, Mick and Keith. You can't have one without the other.Mick going out of his way to say that Keith isn't family, only somebody he's worked with a long time doesn't leave you with that warm fuzzy feeling either.
Or maybe what Keith wrote isn't really a big deal and the media blew it up (as they like to do) and made it into a huge ass scandal when really it wasn't.Quote
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I think Keith wrote "Life" precisely because the relationship between him and Mick was so bad he figured it couldn't get any worse. "Life" didn't ruin Mick and Keith's relationship, it just made it public. Perhaps that is what embarassed Mick. Not that Keith is blameless in any of this. The two things that make the Stones great, Mick and Keith. You can't have one without the other.Mick going out of his way to say that Keith isn't family, only somebody he's worked with a long time doesn't leave you with that warm fuzzy feeling either.
Strange timing to write your life story slamming your life long business partner if you knew you were going to be working with him in the future. Either he thought it was over or underestimated Mick's reaction to it. The whole thing becomes even stranger when you hear that a copy was actually presented to Mick before the book release. Mick apparently read it and signed off on it. At least that is what I think has been reported. Something doesn't add up here.
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GRNRBITW
not sure what being friends has to do with it....their respective muses dried up 3+ decades ago....had zip to do with friendship....
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Mick going out of his way to say that Keith isn't family, only somebody he's worked with a long time doesn't leave you with that warm fuzzy feeling either.
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not sure what being friends has to do with it....their respective muses dried up 3+ decades ago....had zip to do with friendship....
I don't buy that theory at all. People should become better writers as they get older. They have much more life experiences to draw from. If Keith hadn't written that damn book we probably would have had a new album by now.
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not sure what being friends has to do with it....their respective muses dried up 3+ decades ago....had zip to do with friendship....
I don't buy that theory at all. People should become better writers as they get older. They have much more life experiences to draw from. If Keith hadn't written that damn book we probably would have had a new album by now.