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BlackHat
As a relative youngster I take everything as it comes and enjoy it for what it is there and then.
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Rolling Hansie
Not a relative youngster, but I still take everything as it comes and enjoy it for what it is there and then.
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BlackHat
Music reminds us of the good times (and the bad as well). You can hear a track on the radio or stick an album on and it transports you to another time and place, perhaps when life was more exciting or less complicated. An album like A Bigger Bang doesn't touch the same bases so will always come off as inferior, cold or meaningless when you listen to it. Is it possible that many IORReans cannot see the value in more recent recordings because they are blinded by the association of older albums with their own past glories.
Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
It's possible that those same IORReans associate A Bigger Bang with hip replacements, denture cream, prescription medication, fading sexual urges and collecting their state pension.
It's not a level playing field is it? And would any new Stones album be afflicted by a similar malaise amongst the IORR community?
As a relative youngster I take everything as it comes and enjoy it for what it is there and then.
Just saying.
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Markdog
Rock has been explored for 50+ years, few ideas are new and exciting now.....
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Markdog
Great songs are great songs and crap ones are crap whether older or brand new. At 45 I still hear the odd great rock song and know instantly (yes subjectively) and there isn't any romance involved. The same with older classics, they are great songs first and foremost and you might have nastolgia about them but only because you loved music and heard a great song or album.
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
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BlackHat
Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
Possibly. The youngster who bought Sticky Fingers in 1971 could well have been married, mortgaged and with kids by 1976.
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BlackHat
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Chris Fountain
May I speak of the currrent EST- I got my ass up to watch -Djojokovick defeat Murray. We're talking start time at 3:00 AM- DJ won in 4 sets. Of course it was Sunday - my wife woke up 8:00 and needed to get to church on time. Store is only .5 miles away all I needed was more beer. There was resistance as she had to be church on time ( sounds like a David Bowie Song) Ineeded more beer at the time and she was more concetned about her attemt to get to church at time. I threw 30$ at the floor of the car, I refused to go to church under my conditions, Again I was up at 3:00 Aand and no business being at church. I dislike the folks who pretend that go to church and it redeems their evil doings. I always give money indiscreetly, and I will not be judged if i go to a church with a false pretense- Frick the institution of Church
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Just saying.
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
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KEITH 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the idea everybody's disappointed with it. Then two years later you bring out another record and you suddenly realize that they're all holding this other record up and saying,`If only it was as good as this one.'
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
Well, I cut some stuff for brevity. Here's with the text I replaced above with ellipses:
KEITH 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the idea everybody's disappointed with it. Then two years later you bring out another record and you suddenly realize that they're all holding this other record up and saying,`If only it was as good as this one.' And I know it's not because we're ahead of our time because that's not ever what we're trying to do, it's not avant-garde, no, that's not it. It's just that when you've been around as long as we have, people have got their own fixed idea of what they want from the Stones and it's never anything new, even though they do really want it, they still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car fifteen years ago and it's never as good as then. There's so much nostalgia connected with it that you can't possibly fight, so you have to let the record seep into their lives, let them have a good time with it first. Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them. [Making a face and putting on a mock upper-class British accent] `It's our song darling.' So that sort of sh*t. And the longer you've been around, the harder it is to fight that one, `cos you got so much other stuff which is somebody else's song, darling. And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
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BlackHat
Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
Well, I cut some stuff for brevity. Here's with the text I replaced above with ellipses:
KEITH 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the idea everybody's disappointed with it. Then two years later you bring out another record and you suddenly realize that they're all holding this other record up and saying,`If only it was as good as this one.' And I know it's not because we're ahead of our time because that's not ever what we're trying to do, it's not avant-garde, no, that's not it. It's just that when you've been around as long as we have, people have got their own fixed idea of what they want from the Stones and it's never anything new, even though they do really want it, they still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car fifteen years ago and it's never as good as then. There's so much nostalgia connected with it that you can't possibly fight, so you have to let the record seep into their lives, let them have a good time with it first. Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them. [Making a face and putting on a mock upper-class British accent] `It's our song darling.' So that sort of sh*t. And the longer you've been around, the harder it is to fight that one, `cos you got so much other stuff which is somebody else's song, darling. And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
I agree with Keith to a certain extent. My all time favorite Stones album is Satanic. It's the Stones album I listen to the most. Christmas of 1967 was a magical time for me. in fact, the entire decade of the sixties was magical. On the flip side, there are songs from that era that I don't like as much as later productions. I would take Out Of Control, Saint Of Me, Like A Thief In The Night, Don't Stop, Doom And Gloom, and One More Shot over Satisfaction, HTW, and Brown Sugar any day of the week. I actually can't stand HTW. The "times" definitely have an impact but are not the total story. There are far more sheep in this world than there are shepherds. The masses love Satisfaction, Brown Sugar, and HTW. These songs received a lot of play time.
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
Well, I cut some stuff for brevity. Here's with the text I replaced above with ellipses:
KEITH 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the idea everybody's disappointed with it. Then two years later you bring out another record and you suddenly realize that they're all holding this other record up and saying,`If only it was as good as this one.' And I know it's not because we're ahead of our time because that's not ever what we're trying to do, it's not avant-garde, no, that's not it. It's just that when you've been around as long as we have, people have got their own fixed idea of what they want from the Stones and it's never anything new, even though they do really want it, they still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car fifteen years ago and it's never as good as then. There's so much nostalgia connected with it that you can't possibly fight, so you have to let the record seep into their lives, let them have a good time with it first. Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them. [Making a face and putting on a mock upper-class British accent] `It's our song darling.' So that sort of sh*t. And the longer you've been around, the harder it is to fight that one, `cos you got so much other stuff which is somebody else's song, darling. And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
I agree with Keith to a certain extent. My all time favorite Stones album is Satanic. It's the Stones album I listen to the most. Christmas of 1967 was a magical time for me. in fact, the entire decade of the sixties was magical. On the flip side, there are songs from that era that I don't like as much as later productions. I would take Out Of Control, Saint Of Me, Like A Thief In The Night, Don't Stop, Doom And Gloom, and One More Shot over Satisfaction, HTW, and Brown Sugar any day of the week. I actually can't stand HTW. The "times" definitely have an impact but are not the total story. There are far more sheep in this world than there are shepherds. The masses love Satisfaction, Brown Sugar, and HTW. These songs received a lot of play time.
Why don't you ask Joe Namath what his favorite Stones album is and make that one your favorite?
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Many IORReans probably got laid, got high, got married, got rich etc to a soundtrack of Exile, Some Girls, Tattoo You.
KEITH RICHARDS iN 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the feeling everybody's disappointed with it...They still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car 15 years ago...Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them...And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
— (Interview with Victor Bockris.)
Oh, I see. The problem with Black And Blue wasn't that it sucked, it was that the people who bought it weren't having as much fun in 1976 as they were in 1971 when they bought Sticky Fingers.
Well, I cut some stuff for brevity. Here's with the text I replaced above with ellipses:
KEITH 1977: "You put a record out and then you get the idea everybody's disappointed with it. Then two years later you bring out another record and you suddenly realize that they're all holding this other record up and saying,`If only it was as good as this one.' And I know it's not because we're ahead of our time because that's not ever what we're trying to do, it's not avant-garde, no, that's not it. It's just that when you've been around as long as we have, people have got their own fixed idea of what they want from the Stones and it's never anything new, even though they do really want it, they still compare it with this big moment in the backseat of a car fifteen years ago and it's never as good as then. There's so much nostalgia connected with it that you can't possibly fight, so you have to let the record seep into their lives, let them have a good time with it first. Because a lot of the time with records it's the experiences that people have been through when that record's been playing that makes it special to them. [Making a face and putting on a mock upper-class British accent] `It's our song darling.' So that sort of sh*t. And the longer you've been around, the harder it is to fight that one, `cos you got so much other stuff which is somebody else's song, darling. And although they're interested and they'll buy the new record, it doesn't mean as much to them as the one they heard that magical night when they screwed fifteen chicks."
I agree with Keith to a certain extent. My all time favorite Stones album is Satanic. It's the Stones album I listen to the most. Christmas of 1967 was a magical time for me. in fact, the entire decade of the sixties was magical. On the flip side, there are songs from that era that I don't like as much as later productions. I would take Out Of Control, Saint Of Me, Like A Thief In The Night, Don't Stop, Doom And Gloom, and One More Shot over Satisfaction, HTW, and Brown Sugar any day of the week. I actually can't stand HTW. The "times" definitely have an impact but are not the total story. There are far more sheep in this world than there are shepherds. The masses love Satisfaction, Brown Sugar, and HTW. These songs received a lot of play time.
Why don't you ask Joe Namath what his favorite Stones album is and make that one your favorite?
Namath became the first QB in history to throw for over 4,000 yards that season. 4,007 to be exact.
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Every successful artist has a golden moment in time when he or she finds their muse, when they say what they have to say. No one escapes that. Not even Dylan. After that it is a question whether what they are doing is inspired, honorable, honest and competent.