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Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: stein ()
Date: December 16, 2010 17:50

I bought a nameless vinyl boot last week and wonder what it is called? Here is the set list, all live recordings.

I am waiting
Under my thumb
Paint it black
Have you seen your mother baby standing in the shadow
Jumpin`Jack Flash
Honky tonk woman
Con le mie lacrime
Live with me
Dead Flowers
I got the blues
Little Queenie
Midnight rambler

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Doc ()
Date: December 16, 2010 18:06

Con Le Mie Lacrime wasn't played anywhere else than Milan 2006 as far as I know
I am Waiting was never performed live

You LP is made (at least partly) of outtakes or it's a fake live album...

[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: stein ()
Date: December 16, 2010 18:16

Ok, but on this peace of plastic it sounds like live recordings, audience noice can have been added.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 16, 2010 18:29

The first three songs were performed, in that exact sequence, on 'Ready Steady Go - Live' on 27.5.66.

Prior to 1999, the only ever appearance of 'I Got The Blues' came from the Marquee TV special on 26.3.71. The first 5 songs from that broadcast match the final 5 songs from this LP - with the exception of 'Let it Rock' instead of 'Little Queenie' - so if your LP has 'Let it Rock' and not 'LQ' then tracks 8-12 are from the Marquee.

'Con le Mie Lacrime' was only ever played in front of an audience once - Milan 2006. Presumably this is the rare Italian 7' thats included from 1966, so its an official release.

HYSYMB was only ever performed in late 1966. If there's an audience, then its almost certainly from the Ed Sullivan Show (live vocals and a pre-recorded backing track) from 22.9.66. If not, then maybe its the alternate studio take or one of the promo version edits.

Impossible to trace JJF or HTW based on this info but the nature of this release and the track sequence seems to suggest they're compiling rare live performances from 1968-69, possibly either from promos (eg JJF) or TV shows - so HTW might be from Ed Sullivan '69 or Top of the Pops Dec '69.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2010-12-16 18:31 by Gazza.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: December 16, 2010 18:30

You can upload it in the Hot Stuff or Buy/Sell/Trade section if it isn't official stuff. Then we can hear and say what it all is.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: December 16, 2010 21:58

Quote
Gazza
The first three songs were performed, in that exact sequence, on 'Ready Steady Go - Live' on 27.5.66.

Thanks for the info Gazza.

RE: I Am Waiting, Under My Thumb & Paint It Black.....

Was this a lip-sync performance (on Ready Steady Go)?


IORR............but I like it!

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: December 16, 2010 22:48

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sweet neo con
RE: I Am Waiting, Under My Thumb & Paint It Black.....

Was this a lip-sync performance (on Ready Steady Go)?

Yes it was....also available on video/DVD - probably on youtube as well
"Under My Thumb", especially, is a good watch

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: sweet neo con ()
Date: December 16, 2010 22:52

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Erik_Snow
Quote
sweet neo con
RE: I Am Waiting, Under My Thumb & Paint It Black.....

Was this a lip-sync performance (on Ready Steady Go)?

Yes it was....also available on video/DVD - probably on youtube as well
"Under My Thumb", especially, is a good watch

thanks!


IORR............but I like it!

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: December 16, 2010 23:02

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sweet neo con
Quote
Erik_Snow
Quote
sweet neo con
RE: I Am Waiting, Under My Thumb & Paint It Black.....

Was this a lip-sync performance (on Ready Steady Go)?

Yes it was....also available on video/DVD - probably on youtube as well
"Under My Thumb", especially, is a good watch

thanks!

Oops, sorry, sweetneocon - I misunderstood your first post; no it's not "lip-sync", Jagger's vocals are real "live".

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 16, 2010 23:40

Quote
sweet neo con
Quote
Gazza
The first three songs were performed, in that exact sequence, on 'Ready Steady Go - Live' on 27.5.66.

Thanks for the info Gazza.

RE: I Am Waiting, Under My Thumb & Paint It Black.....

Was this a lip-sync performance (on Ready Steady Go)?

No. It was a 'live' edition of the show, hence its title 'Ready Steady Go - Live'.

I got an e-mail this afternoon from a great French fan called Jean who asked me to let you know that :

this is an old bootleg LP called "Old Grey Whistle Test" / "The Guv'nors of Rythm'n'Blues".

the cover is an insert with draws of 6 stones faces (MJ / KR / BJ / MT / CW / BW) around a stage.

it was released in the mid 70's, and it is probably from the Contraband label.


The sources are
(Side 1)
Tracks 1-3 Ready Steady Go Live, 27.5.66
Track 4 - official version, RCA Studios, Hollywood August 1966
Track 5 - Hyde Park 5.7.69
Track 6 - Madison Square Garden, New York 27-28.11.69
Track 7 - official version, LOndon 1/66

(Side 2)
Tracks 8 - 12 Marquee Club, London 26.3.71

Track 11 is indeed 'Let It Rock' mistitled as 'Little Queenie'



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-12-17 04:51 by Gazza.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: No Expectations ()
Date: December 17, 2010 01:25

Damn, is there no query this board can't answer? Great knowledge and sources Gazza!

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: stein ()
Date: December 17, 2010 10:05

Thanks everybody for helping mewith my unknown bootleg. OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST must be the right album name. Describcion of album inserts and traack list fits my record. I have played it and made a mistake LQ instead of LIR .

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Date: December 17, 2010 10:14

Quote
Gazza
this is an old bootleg LP called "Old Grey Whistle Test" / "The Guv'nors of Rythm'n'Blues".

...I know NOTHING (solid) about bootlegs etc. (though I do have many, off course) - especially not compared to all the authorities here on this board; but judging by this title, I reckon the artwork is pretty damn good - there's a fantastic 'cartoon' (I would call it: a masterpiece painting... but that's just me... ;o) by the hand of Peter Pontiac (Dutch artist) of the band in action, with exactly that name... "The Guv'nors of R'n'B". If so, the sleeve alone is worth having this boot imo.

["I can hear the Bullfrog calling me..."]

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: stein ()
Date: December 17, 2010 15:24

The insert artwork was what made me curious and bought this boot the record and the story behind the recordings made me really glad. I found it on a fair bought it for about 23 pound in near EX condition and had no chance to hear it before I was home.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: December 17, 2010 16:11

You'll find small reviews of the Contra Band vinyl releases (incl. yours) here:
[www.rollingstonesnet.com]

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: stein ()
Date: December 17, 2010 16:59

Takk Erik_snø

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 17, 2010 17:28

Thanks again to Jean, here is the artwork :




Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Date: December 17, 2010 17:39

...That's the one.
Check out Peter PONTIAC's artwork if & whenever you can!

["I can hear the Bullfrog calling me..."]

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: December 17, 2010 18:45

Quote
Gazza
Quote
sweet neo con
Quote
Gazza
The first three songs were performed, in that exact sequence, on 'Ready Steady Go - Live' on 27.5.66.

Thanks for the info Gazza.

RE: I Am Waiting, Under My Thumb & Paint It Black.....

Was this a lip-sync performance (on Ready Steady Go)?

No. It was a 'live' edition of the show, hence its title 'Ready Steady Go - Live'.

I got an e-mail this afternoon from a great French fan called Jean who asked me to let you know that :

this is an old bootleg LP called "Old Grey Whistle Test" / "The Guv'nors of Rythm'n'Blues".

the cover is an insert with draws of 6 stones faces (MJ / KR / BJ / MT / CW / BW) around a stage.

it was released in the mid 70's, and it is probably from the Contraband label.


The sources are
(Side 1)
Tracks 1-3 Ready Steady Go Live, 27.5.66
Track 4 - official version, RCA Studios, Hollywood August 1966
Track 5 - Hyde Park 5.7.69
Track 6 - Madison Square Garden, New York 27-28.11.69
Track 7 - official version, LOndon 1/66

(Side 2)
Tracks 8 - 12 Marquee Club, London 26.3.71

Track 11 is indeed 'Let It Rock' mistitled as 'Little Queenie'


Wasn't the live show the 1965 one with Satisfaction etc?
I thought the 1966 was backing tracks with live vocals.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 17, 2010 18:52

The show went 'all live' from spring 1965 (previously it was a combination of live performances and lip synching) until it ended in December 1966.

The Stones' performance on 2nd September 1965 show that you're referring to was a live performance too.

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: stein ()
Date: December 17, 2010 20:26




Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: December 18, 2010 00:47

Quote
MississippiBullfrog
Quote
Gazza
this is an old bootleg LP called "Old Grey Whistle Test" / "The Guv'nors of Rythm'n'Blues".

...I know NOTHING (solid) about bootlegs etc. (though I do have many, off course) - especially not compared to all the authorities here on this board; but judging by this title, I reckon the artwork is pretty damn good - there's a fantastic 'cartoon' (I would call it: a masterpiece painting... but that's just me... ;o) by the hand of Peter Pontiac (Dutch artist) of the band in action, with exactly that name... "The Guv'nors of R'n'B". If so, the sleeve alone is worth having this boot imo.

Here's the cartoon in colour, from a 1971 lyric book


Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Date: December 18, 2010 19:29

Quote
stein
I bought a nameless vinyl boot last week and wonder what it is called? Here is the set list, all live recordings.

I am waiting
Under my thumb
Paint it black
Have you seen your mother baby standing in the shadow
Jumpin`Jack Flash
Honky tonk woman
Con le mie lacrime
Live with me
Dead Flowers
I got the blues
Little Queenie
Midnight rambler



As bootlegs are repressed many times over, if you post the matrix numbers etched in the runout wax you can get a more accurate answer to your question.

Scotty,
Irvine, CA

Re: Anybody knows this boot?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 18, 2010 20:01

This is the front and back cover of the 1973 edition of the book posted by Erik, above. Thanks to Jean, once again :






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