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Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: theimposter ()
Date: September 10, 2006 04:10

You know I have managed to figured out how to play just every Stones song I have ad a go at. But something about this one aways eluded me: is it in standard or open G tuning? I've learned it in standard, but it never sounds totally right, and the times I have attempted it in openg it doesn't come out right.

Anyone know for sure?

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: brewcrew87 ()
Date: September 10, 2006 07:29

its in open g - you need to use the same chords you would use in standard tuning- but use bar chords in open g- go to some guitar tab site and look up the tabs for little t&a, then transilate the chords into open g bar chords - i think that is how keith plays it on the record because that is how i play it

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: cc ()
Date: September 10, 2006 08:03

I don't see how you'd play the F chord with a low F as the root if you were in open G. I think it's in standard.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Midnight Toker ()
Date: September 10, 2006 08:26

in 1981, he played it on his 1972 Tele(if I am not mistaken) in standard tuning.
B5-C5-D5 is how it starts off.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Date: September 10, 2006 12:54

Little T+A is in standard tuning. However, some of the overdubs may be in open-G tuning.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: September 10, 2006 12:58

Yup, standard tuning. You can see it on the Lets spend the night dvd and it is the black custom.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Skink ()
Date: September 10, 2006 13:01

Defintely standard tuning. It's simply powerchords for the chorus, D, A, A sharp and F. For the verses it's sometimes a C powerchord and sometimes a C chord at the 7th fret with the hammer-ons on the 9th so you get an F which makes it sound very open G-ish but it actually isn't.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: FARAWAY EYES ()
Date: September 10, 2006 13:06

theimposter Wrote:
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> You know I have managed to figured out how to play
> just every Stones song I have ad a go at.

Hmmm, next step would be that you play better than Keef.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: September 10, 2006 14:58

Standard. With added G-tuned C in the record version on "..the bitch keeps..."-bridge.

You're a rag trade girl, You're the queen of porn, You're the easiest lay on the white house lawn!!

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: theimposter ()
Date: September 10, 2006 19:55

I researched it for a while last night. Open G works really well except - as cc mentioned above - that low f never really works. You have to high and it doesn't sound right, otherwise this tuning suits it nicely.

Good old standard it seems to be, though am still half-convinced that there is some openg overdubs on the studio version. Thanks for your input, people.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Midnight Toker ()
Date: September 11, 2006 08:40

Skink- the intro is B5-C5-D5 in standard tuning. Listen to me will ya?

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: nikkibong ()
Date: September 11, 2006 08:41

keith's been wondering the same thing - that's why he hasn't played it since '82.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Date: September 11, 2006 11:50

<keith's been wondering the same thing - that's why he hasn't played it since '82.>

1988.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 11, 2006 21:31

Skink Wrote:
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> Defintely standard tuning. It's simply powerchords
> for the chorus, D, A, A sharp and F. For the
> verses it's sometimes a C powerchord and sometimes
> a C chord at the 7th fret with the hammer-ons on
> the 9th so you get an F which makes it sound very
> open G-ish but it actually isn't.

Actually, Dm - A, Bflat - F
Intro is: F - G --> A - C - Dm (--> means slide to).
Of course it's in standard tuning.

Mathijs

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Date: September 12, 2006 14:46

Mathijs wrote:

Intro is: F - G --> A - C - Dm>

It's been a long time since I've played the riff, but isn't the A right after the F in the intro?

DP

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: cc ()
Date: September 13, 2006 03:10

Yes.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: tat2you ()
Date: September 13, 2006 04:27

no wonder i cant play it in open G !!

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: September 13, 2006 13:13

DandelionPowderman Wrote:
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> Mathijs wrote:
>
> Intro is: F - G --> A - C - Dm>
>
> It's been a long time since I've played the riff,
> but isn't the A right after the F in the intro?
>
> DP

No, he slides from G to A on the low E string, it's F Pentatonic Major.

Mathijs

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: dorfenwell ()
Date: April 19, 2012 18:58

Did you ever try keeping your top string tuned to E?
There's your low F !

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: dorfenwell ()
Date: April 19, 2012 18:59

Keep your top string tuned to E

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Date: April 19, 2012 20:31

Quote
Mathijs
DandelionPowderman Wrote:
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> Mathijs wrote:
>
> Intro is: F - G --> A - C - Dm>
>
> It's been a long time since I've played the riff,
> but isn't the A right after the F in the intro?
>
> DP

No, he slides from G to A on the low E string, it's F Pentatonic Major.

Mathijs

Well, I checked this out - after this thread re-opened smiling smiley

It´s definitely F - A - C - Dm in the intro.

Edit: Now I understand. You mean he slides for a millisecond from G to A. Gotcha.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-19 20:33 by DandelionPowderman.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: November 22, 2012 14:02

Bump

Standard tuning it is then? I know it's standard live but any info on the studio version? Keith said in some interview (Guitar player 1983) that he recorded it in open G.

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: November 22, 2012 14:09





Sounds like it could be open G on this one

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 22, 2012 14:26

The tuning didn't change since the 2006 thread: standard tuning.

Repeat: standard tuning

Mathijs
ps STANDARD TUNING!

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: November 22, 2012 14:37

And thats what I always thought but Im still not sure!! I believe you Mathjis, and it makes sense, but I want proof! Isolated tracks would be great...

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 22, 2012 16:04

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Redhotcarpet
And thats what I always thought but Im still not sure!! I believe you Mathjis, and it makes sense, but I want proof! Isolated tracks would be great...

Er, it's just two guitar tracks with some overdubs. Plenty of outtakes available without the overdubs. And, why on earth would anyone want to play this in open G -it's much more complicated here, and it sounds totally different. And he plays the exact same guitar parts on the 81/82 tour, in standard tuning.

Mathijs

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Date: November 22, 2012 17:24

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Mathijs
Quote
Redhotcarpet
And thats what I always thought but Im still not sure!! I believe you Mathjis, and it makes sense, but I want proof! Isolated tracks would be great...

Er, it's just two guitar tracks with some overdubs. Plenty of outtakes available without the overdubs. And, why on earth would anyone want to play this in open G -it's much more complicated here, and it sounds totally different. And he plays the exact same guitar parts on the 81/82 tour, in standard tuning.

Mathijs

That's true, but there are verses where those two guitars are all Keith ("...snitcher's keep snitching...").

He claims it's open G himself, but it clearly isn't, at least not the main guitar which plays the riff. The other guitar (Keith, not Ronnie), I'm not that sure about, but I'll say it's in standard tuning as well.

PS: This ol' thread again, RHC?

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: drwatts ()
Date: November 22, 2012 17:39

More threads like this, and less bitching and whining!!! AH-HA,HA BAAYBAH!

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: November 22, 2012 17:45

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Mathijs
Quote
Redhotcarpet
And thats what I always thought but Im still not sure!! I believe you Mathjis, and it makes sense, but I want proof! Isolated tracks would be great...

Er, it's just two guitar tracks with some overdubs. Plenty of outtakes available without the overdubs. And, why on earth would anyone want to play this in open G -it's much more complicated here, and it sounds totally different. And he plays the exact same guitar parts on the 81/82 tour, in standard tuning.

Mathijs

That's true, but there are verses where those two guitars are all Keith ("...snitcher's keep snitching...").

He claims it's open G himself, but it clearly isn't, at least not the main guitar which plays the riff. The other guitar (Keith, not Ronnie), I'm not that sure about, but I'll say it's in standard tuning as well.

PS: This ol' thread again, RHC?

Go and check the list of open G songs he makes in Life and tell me if we have to take Keith's statements too seriously ...

C

Re: Guitar players: "Little T&A"
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 22, 2012 19:16

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Mathijs
Quote
Redhotcarpet
And thats what I always thought but Im still not sure!! I believe you Mathjis, and it makes sense, but I want proof! Isolated tracks would be great...

Er, it's just two guitar tracks with some overdubs. Plenty of outtakes available without the overdubs. And, why on earth would anyone want to play this in open G -it's much more complicated here, and it sounds totally different. And he plays the exact same guitar parts on the 81/82 tour, in standard tuning.

Mathijs

That's true, but there are verses where those two guitars are all Keith ("...snitcher's keep snitching...").

He claims it's open G himself, but it clearly isn't, at least not the main guitar which plays the riff. The other guitar (Keith, not Ronnie), I'm not that sure about, but I'll say it's in standard tuning as well.

PS: This ol' thread again, RHC?

The verses ("...snitcher's keep snitching...") is exactly the same as the verse of Whip it Up, the intro of Beast, Almost Hear You Sigh and about a dozen other songs, the main riff of Winter etc, etc, etc.....

It's just the addition of the F note on the D-string with the little finger to turn the C-chord into an F chord.

Mathijs

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