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I have little worry - when they get around to finding outtakes from let it bleed or beggars...are we going to get 2012 vocals on instrumental tracks like "potted shrimp" and will there be 2012 bass and vocals on " Highway Child" - hope not. No No No..
As much as I loved exile outtakes...where does it end, I would love to get a decent mix on " Blood Red Wine" tho..but still, where do you guys draw the line and say " Dont touch that"
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-22 11:43 by seitan.
oops you are right !
Well a great 3CD + DVD box would still do the job for me
Like Bigger Bang ?
-------------------
Keep On Rolling
There's bound to be a lot of overdubs....
Certainly wouldn't say no to a Sticky deluxe ed though Doc! Looking at a few boot CDs (Time Trip Vol 3 esp) - there is no shortage of material that might have the potential to be remixed for an official release.
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Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: November 22, 2011 07:03
Obviously, many opportunities for clever packaging ideas, with the zipper and all...but is there enough unheard music to warrant a deluxe release? Most of the "leftover" tracks were used for Exile, but where do things like "Traveling Man", "Blood Red Wine" and "Leather Jacket" fit in? They also could release the Leeds 1971 show in lieu of bonus studio tracks.
I know we just got two (TWO!) incredible archive releases in the last week, but I'm already salivating over prospects for the next one.
I know we just got two (TWO!) incredible archive releases in the last week, but I'm already salivating over prospects for the next one.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: November 22, 2011 07:31
In terms of marketing, I think you're right, this would be very easy to come up with some unique things.
Didn't they just do a red vinyl/T-shirt combo box last year though?
Didn't they just do a red vinyl/T-shirt combo box last year though?
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
rusty
()
Date: November 22, 2011 08:09
Sticky Fingers is one of my favorite Albums
but I would prefer a Let It Bleed Deluxe Set
because of "I Don't Know The Reason Why & Mick's You Got The Silver"
but I would prefer a Let It Bleed Deluxe Set
because of "I Don't Know The Reason Why & Mick's You Got The Silver"
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
novica
()
Date: November 22, 2011 08:22
Sticky Fingers Deluxe ?
sounds great !
SF is THE rock album ,by all means
sounds great !
SF is THE rock album ,by all means
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
seitan
()
Date: November 22, 2011 11:30
Quote
rusty
Sticky Fingers is one of my favorite Albums
but I would prefer a Let It Bleed Deluxe Set
because of "I Don't Know The Reason Why & Mick's You Got The Silver"
I have little worry - when they get around to finding outtakes from let it bleed or beggars...are we going to get 2012 vocals on instrumental tracks like "potted shrimp" and will there be 2012 bass and vocals on " Highway Child" - hope not. No No No..
As much as I loved exile outtakes...where does it end, I would love to get a decent mix on " Blood Red Wine" tho..but still, where do you guys draw the line and say " Dont touch that"
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-22 11:43 by seitan.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
()
Date: November 22, 2011 11:41
If going by the standards of the Some Girls deluxe and Exile On Main Street deluxe releases...then Eagle Rock would release Marquee 1971 on DVD - while a "snippet" of the DVD would be an extra in the "deluxe box"
Leeds 1971.....could be a google-download in those live series.
Leeds 1971.....could be a google-download in those live series.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: November 22, 2011 11:58
I do wish a Sticky Fingers deluxe version with 3 CDs and 2 DVDs
Album
Alternates / outtakes
Leeds
The DVDs would be Montreux and Marquee
I believe they have enough great stuff to put on Google/Archive (other than Marquee and Leeds) for making this set really complete. The DVDs in the box since que filming of those years probably ain't goo enough to deserve a Bluray treatment...
[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]
Album
Alternates / outtakes
Leeds
The DVDs would be Montreux and Marquee
I believe they have enough great stuff to put on Google/Archive (other than Marquee and Leeds) for making this set really complete. The DVDs in the box since que filming of those years probably ain't goo enough to deserve a Bluray treatment...
[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Father Ted
()
Date: November 22, 2011 12:23
Doc,
Montreux has already been released as bonus feature on Ladies & Gents.
Montreux has already been released as bonus feature on Ladies & Gents.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
MingSubu
()
Date: November 22, 2011 12:58
I want ever album de-luxed.
Especially LIB, SF and Aftermath.
Especially LIB, SF and Aftermath.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: November 22, 2011 13:00
Quote
Father Ted
Doc,
Montreux has already been released as bonus feature on Ladies & Gents.
oops you are right !
Well a great 3CD + DVD box would still do the job for me
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 22, 2011 13:17
Lets hope there's a Little Boy Blue and The Blue Boys DELUXE...
Bonus tracks ... rare Dick Taylor photos all mixed in with that double-B in the title stuff .....
ROCKMAN
Bonus tracks ... rare Dick Taylor photos all mixed in with that double-B in the title stuff .....
ROCKMAN
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
()
Date: November 22, 2011 13:26
Quote
Rockman
all mixed in with that double-B in the title stuff .....
Like Bigger Bang ?-------------------
Keep On Rolling
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 22, 2011 13:29
Black Blue ... Between Buttons ...Bridges Babylon...
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
()
Date: November 22, 2011 13:35
Quote
Rockman
Lets hope there's a Little Boy Blue and The Blue Boys DELUXE...
Bonus tracks ... rare Dick Taylor photos all mixed in with that double-B in the title stuff .....
There's bound to be a lot of overdubs....
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Father Ted
()
Date: November 22, 2011 13:36
Quote
DocQuote
Father Ted
Doc,
Montreux has already been released as bonus feature on Ladies & Gents.
oops you are right !
Well a great 3CD + DVD box would still do the job for me
Certainly wouldn't say no to a Sticky deluxe ed though Doc! Looking at a few boot CDs (Time Trip Vol 3 esp) - there is no shortage of material that might have the potential to be remixed for an official release.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: November 22, 2011 14:54
Where does an Exile deluxe end and a Sticky Fingers one begin?
Half the songs on Exile were cut in 1969-70, ie for Let It bleed and Sticky Fingers.
Most of the songs on the Exile deluxe date from before Sticky Fingers was released. One is even a Satanic Majesties outtake, despite Mick's insistence that the 'starting point' he used was July 1969.
Even leaving aside the issue of latter day overdubs, they employed a very tenuous definition of what constitutes a 'leftover' track for both deluxe projects (even on 'Some Girls'- where there really was a definitive 'start' and 'end' date to the sessions and no overlap from previous albums - where two of the songs were recorded AFTER the original albums were RELEASED) to the extent where it renders a 'Sticky Fingers' deluxe project a bit redundant.
Wouldnt a 'Sticky Fingers' bonus album basically be full of songs which could/should have been on the Exile deluxe but didnt make it?
Here - courtesy of nzentgraf.de - is a sessionography for the final 'Sticky Fingers' session in October 1970.
17th October - 31st October: Newbury, Stargroves (MJ’s house) with Mobile
Record Unit and London, Olympic Sound Studios. Producer: Jimmy Miller.
Sound engineer: Glyn Johns.
- So Divine (Aladdin Story) II (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on
vibes; instrumental
- All Down The Line III (MJ/KR) -second, unverified acoustic version
- Bitch I (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy
Miller on percussion; different mix of III, with audible ad-lib vocals of
Jagger during KR's solo
- Bitch II (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy
Miller on percussion; Sticky Fingers-version
- Hide Your Love I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version
- Moonlight Mile (MJ/KR) -Jim Price on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; Sticky Fingers-version
- Potted Shrimps (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; instrumental
- Red House (Jimi Hendrix) -unverified
- Shake Your Hips II (James Moore) -STU on piano; early version
- Silver Train I (MJ/KR) -early version with slightly longer finish
- Stop Breaking Down II (Robert Johnson) -STU on piano; early (rough) take
- Sway I (MJ/KR) - Nicky Hopkins on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; flipside of US Wild Horses-single
- Sway II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; Sticky Fingers-version
- Sweet Black Angel I (MJ/KR) -instrumental, under title Bent Green
Needles; unverified
- Sweet Virginia II (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, Bobby Keys on sax; early
version without backing vocals
- Travelling Man (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Tumbling Dice II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; with different lyrics,
under title Good Time Woman; Exile On Main St. 2010-remaster-version
Note: Nicky Hopkins did his piano overdub on Sway not before early (probably
February) 1971!
Some of these songs ended up on Sticky Fingers. Some ended up on Exile, and some on the Exile deluxe. Three different albums. Others could potentially be used for a Sticky Fingers bonus CD - and one or two could be used for a Goats Head Soup bonus CD. So a two week session could potentially yield material released on five albums over four decades apart. Isnt it all getting a bit silly?
Surely a better option would just be to release a series of double CDs covering specific time frame (a la The Beatles Anthology, Dylan's Bootleg Series Vols 1-3) instead of rewriting history by pretending songs date from periods where they clearly do not, just to fill a bonus CD. It would also do away with the need to buy albums which - like Some Girls - we already bought in remastered form just two years ago.
For example
Vol. 1 1962-67 (Early demos through to Satanic Majesties)
Vol. 2 1968-74 (Beggars through to IORR)
Vol. 3 1974-85 (Black and Blue through to Dirty Work)
Vol. 4 1989 - to date
Four periods with a definitive starting and end point. Vol. 1 covers the era where Brian has more of a role in the band, although it could be extended to '68 or so. Vol. 2 deals more with the Jimmy Miller and Mick Taylor era. Vol. 3 covers the era where Woody joined the band and goes through the Pathe-Marconi/New York/Nassau years until Stu died and the band went into cold storage for a few years, and Vol. 4 deals with the modern era of the band.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-22 15:04 by Gazza.
Half the songs on Exile were cut in 1969-70, ie for Let It bleed and Sticky Fingers.
Most of the songs on the Exile deluxe date from before Sticky Fingers was released. One is even a Satanic Majesties outtake, despite Mick's insistence that the 'starting point' he used was July 1969.
Even leaving aside the issue of latter day overdubs, they employed a very tenuous definition of what constitutes a 'leftover' track for both deluxe projects (even on 'Some Girls'- where there really was a definitive 'start' and 'end' date to the sessions and no overlap from previous albums - where two of the songs were recorded AFTER the original albums were RELEASED) to the extent where it renders a 'Sticky Fingers' deluxe project a bit redundant.
Wouldnt a 'Sticky Fingers' bonus album basically be full of songs which could/should have been on the Exile deluxe but didnt make it?
Here - courtesy of nzentgraf.de - is a sessionography for the final 'Sticky Fingers' session in October 1970.
17th October - 31st October: Newbury, Stargroves (MJ’s house) with Mobile
Record Unit and London, Olympic Sound Studios. Producer: Jimmy Miller.
Sound engineer: Glyn Johns.
- So Divine (Aladdin Story) II (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on
vibes; instrumental
- All Down The Line III (MJ/KR) -second, unverified acoustic version
- Bitch I (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy
Miller on percussion; different mix of III, with audible ad-lib vocals of
Jagger during KR's solo
- Bitch II (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy
Miller on percussion; Sticky Fingers-version
- Hide Your Love I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version
- Moonlight Mile (MJ/KR) -Jim Price on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; Sticky Fingers-version
- Potted Shrimps (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; instrumental
- Red House (Jimi Hendrix) -unverified
- Shake Your Hips II (James Moore) -STU on piano; early version
- Silver Train I (MJ/KR) -early version with slightly longer finish
- Stop Breaking Down II (Robert Johnson) -STU on piano; early (rough) take
- Sway I (MJ/KR) - Nicky Hopkins on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; flipside of US Wild Horses-single
- Sway II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; Sticky Fingers-version
- Sweet Black Angel I (MJ/KR) -instrumental, under title Bent Green
Needles; unverified
- Sweet Virginia II (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, Bobby Keys on sax; early
version without backing vocals
- Travelling Man (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Tumbling Dice II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; with different lyrics,
under title Good Time Woman; Exile On Main St. 2010-remaster-version
Note: Nicky Hopkins did his piano overdub on Sway not before early (probably
February) 1971!
Some of these songs ended up on Sticky Fingers. Some ended up on Exile, and some on the Exile deluxe. Three different albums. Others could potentially be used for a Sticky Fingers bonus CD - and one or two could be used for a Goats Head Soup bonus CD. So a two week session could potentially yield material released on five albums over four decades apart. Isnt it all getting a bit silly?
Surely a better option would just be to release a series of double CDs covering specific time frame (a la The Beatles Anthology, Dylan's Bootleg Series Vols 1-3) instead of rewriting history by pretending songs date from periods where they clearly do not, just to fill a bonus CD. It would also do away with the need to buy albums which - like Some Girls - we already bought in remastered form just two years ago.
For example
Vol. 1 1962-67 (Early demos through to Satanic Majesties)
Vol. 2 1968-74 (Beggars through to IORR)
Vol. 3 1974-85 (Black and Blue through to Dirty Work)
Vol. 4 1989 - to date
Four periods with a definitive starting and end point. Vol. 1 covers the era where Brian has more of a role in the band, although it could be extended to '68 or so. Vol. 2 deals more with the Jimmy Miller and Mick Taylor era. Vol. 3 covers the era where Woody joined the band and goes through the Pathe-Marconi/New York/Nassau years until Stu died and the band went into cold storage for a few years, and Vol. 4 deals with the modern era of the band.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-22 15:04 by Gazza.
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: November 22, 2011 14:57
I'd have thought, after all these years, that Gazza would have given up on making sensible suggestions around here ;^)
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: November 22, 2011 15:07
Quote
Spud
I'd have thought, after all these years, that Gazza would have given up on making sensible suggestions around here ;^)
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
Come On
()
Date: November 22, 2011 15:16
For Sure! and bonus tracks will be taken from 'Monkey Grip'....
2 1 2 0
2 1 2 0
Re: Will There Be A Sticky Fingers Deluxe?
Posted by:
seitan
()
Date: November 22, 2011 15:20
Quote
Gazza
Where does an Exile deluxe end and a Sticky Fingers one begin?
Half the songs on Exile were cut in 1969-70, ie for Let It bleed and Sticky Fingers.
Most of the songs on the Exile deluxe date from before Sticky Fingers was released. One is even a Satanic Majesties outtake, despite Mick's insistence that the 'starting point' he used was July 1969.
Even leaving aside the issue of latter day overdubs, they employed a very tenuous definition of what constitutes a 'leftover' track for both deluxe projects (even on 'Some Girls'- where there really was a definitive 'start' and 'end' date to the sessions and no overlap from previous albums - where two of the songs were recorded AFTER the original albums were RELEASED) to the extent where it renders a 'Sticky Fingers' deluxe project a bit redundant.
Wouldnt a 'Sticky Fingers' bonus album basically be full of songs which could/should have been on the Exile deluxe but didnt make it?
Here - courtesy of nzentgraf.de - is a sessionography for the final 'Sticky Fingers' session in October 1970.
17th October - 31st October: Newbury, Stargroves (MJ’s house) with Mobile
Record Unit and London, Olympic Sound Studios. Producer: Jimmy Miller.
Sound engineer: Glyn Johns.
- So Divine (Aladdin Story) II (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on
vibes; instrumental
- All Down The Line III (MJ/KR) -second, unverified acoustic version
- Bitch I (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy
Miller on percussion; different mix of III, with audible ad-lib vocals of
Jagger during KR's solo
- Bitch II (MJ/KR) -Bobby Keys on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy
Miller on percussion; Sticky Fingers-version
- Hide Your Love I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version
- Moonlight Mile (MJ/KR) -Jim Price on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; Sticky Fingers-version
- Potted Shrimps (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; instrumental
- Red House (Jimi Hendrix) -unverified
- Shake Your Hips II (James Moore) -STU on piano; early version
- Silver Train I (MJ/KR) -early version with slightly longer finish
- Stop Breaking Down II (Robert Johnson) -STU on piano; early (rough) take
- Sway I (MJ/KR) - Nicky Hopkins on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; flipside of US Wild Horses-single
- Sway II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, strings arranged by Paul
Buckmaster; Sticky Fingers-version
- Sweet Black Angel I (MJ/KR) -instrumental, under title Bent Green
Needles; unverified
- Sweet Virginia II (MJ/KR) -STU on piano, Bobby Keys on sax; early
version without backing vocals
- Travelling Man (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Tumbling Dice II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; with different lyrics,
under title Good Time Woman; Exile On Main St. 2010-remaster-version
Note: Nicky Hopkins did his piano overdub on Sway not before early (probably
February) 1971!
Some of these songs ended up on Sticky Fingers. Some ended up on Exile, and some on the Exile deluxe. Three different albums. Others could potentially be used for a Sticky Fingers bonus CD - and one or two could be used for a Goats Head Soup bonus CD. So a two week session could potentially yield material released on five albums over four decades apart. Isnt it all getting a bit silly?
Surely a better option would just be to release a series of double CDs covering specific time frame (a la The Beatles Anthology, Dylan's Bootleg Series Vols 1-3) instead of rewriting history by pretending songs date from periods where they clearly do not, just to fill a bonus CD. It would also do away with the need to buy albums which - like Some Girls - we already bought in remastered form just two years ago.
For example
Vol. 1 1962-67 (Early demos through to Satanic Majesties)
Vol. 2 1968-74 (Beggars through to IORR)
Vol. 3 1974-85 (Black and Blue through to Dirty Work)
Vol. 4 1989 - to date
Four periods with a definitive starting and end point. Vol. 1 covers the era where Brian has more of a role in the band, although it could be extended to '68 or so. Vol. 2 deals more with the Jimmy Miller and Mick Taylor era. Vol. 3 covers the era where Woody joined the band and goes through the Pathe-Marconi/New York/Nassau years until Stu died and the band went into cold storage for a few years, and Vol. 4 deals with the modern era of the band.
Good post. Thumps Up. Thanks
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