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Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:19

That songTh still really moves me...any thoughts...are welcome..they did it together twice'''right''?I loved that.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:21

greatest rock song of all time. but the Stones butchered it - mainly Jagger's fault - he was completely missing the entire point of the song with his delivery. The song is meant as a sneer...he sang it as a "celebration."

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:24

That's a good description.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:25

yeah, I thot so too!

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:28

You are '''right about that''but the harp solo makes up!!!And what you think of their versions together?

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:30

It's an OK song. You never listen to it on a record because it has that played-every-ten-minutes-at-classic-rock-radio-station-factor.

I think the Stones do a wonderful version, except for, yes, Jagger. He SHOUTS!! everything. It's supposed to be smooth, funky "onzopponatime you drezz so faihne!!", not "YEAHHH!!!! LET'S GO!!!!! ONCE UPON A TIIIME YOU DRESSSED SO FINNEE!! THREW THE BUMMMMS A DIMMMEEE IN YOOUR PRIME!!! DIDDDDDNT YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU?".

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:34

I love the part..Now you dont talk so loud...Now you dont seem so proud.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:35

something like that, reptile.

rooster - the Jagger/Dylan duets blew ass. Dylan's a pretty tough guy to sing with, 'cos of his quirky, unpredictable delivery. Joan Baez' ability to follow him back "in the day" was truly remarkable.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:36

I have that duet too. I don't hear any Dylan in the mix. It's afwul.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:39

StonesTod Wrote:
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> something like that, reptile.
>
> rooster - the Jagger/Dylan duets blew ass. Dylan's
> a pretty tough guy to sing with, 'cos of his
> quirky, unpredictable delivery. Joan Baez' ability
> to follow him back "in the day" was truly
> remarkable.

Yeah..Tod..that Rio version.is very good!

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:40

blew ass = bad

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:43

Its such a strange rare moment..Dylan was shy....

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:44

rooster Wrote:
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> That songTh still really moves me...any
> thoughts...are welcome..they did it together
> twice'''right''?I loved that.


they actually played it together 5 times at shows where Dylan opened for the Stones

Montpelier '95
Rio '98
Sao Paulo '98
Buenos Aires '98 (4th and 5th shows)

The two Buenos Aires versions have never circulated. The only one of the 3 others that are worth a damn is the one from Sao Paulo, although its the worst quality sound wise of the three. The Rio and Montpelier versions are train wrecks.

I liked the Stones version of it when they first did it in '95, for its novelty factor more than anything else, although I was sick to death of it by the time the next tour came around.

Good fun, although obviously not remotely comparable to the original or most live versions that Bob has done of it

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:46

gazza is obviously more the diplomat than I.... I stand by "blew ass" as my official vote.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:46

Tour rehearsal Toronto 15th September 1997....



ROCKMAN

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:48

that was a sorta humorus take, Rockman - Mick sorta doing a Dylan imitation.....

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:51

Talking about Dylan...one question ....did he ever played ..Sad eyed Lady OTLL in concert?

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:53

I wanna say cheers Rock...but my glass is empty!!

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:53

rooster Wrote:
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> Talking about Dylan...one question ....did he ever
> played ..Sad eyed Lady OTLL in concert?



Nope

although during a scene in the 'Renaldo and Clara' film, you can hear a rehearsal version of it in the background



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-05-13 01:54 by Gazza.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 01:57

there is speculation that it was played at the final show in SLC on the RTR tour, for which there is no extant recording..

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:14

Dylans version is the definative version, but personaly I like the way jagger sings it. I like the Bridges to babylon DVD version.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:21

ryanpow Wrote:
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> I like the way jagger sings it..


there's one in every crowd

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:24

yeah, its cheezy I know but I still think its done tastefully. he does turn it into a celebration. but to me its like a celebration of classic rock.

the video's really cool too BTW



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-05-13 02:28 by ryanpow.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: watts fan ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:29

I prefer Hendrix's take on the song. The version from the Monterey Pop Festival (6/18/67) is just wonderful IMHO. There's something very honest and heartfelt about Jimi's voice & I think that he did a great job singing that song. Too bad he didn't stick around. He was such an admirer of Bob; they probably would have collaborated sooner or later.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Beelyboy ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:31

i like that version jimi henrix experience did at monterey pop...very much.
'bob dylan's grandmother" on bass, according to jimi, introducing noel redding...
i think hendrix screwed up the lyrix and it didn't even matter...
he just laughed it off...just didn't matter...whoa that guitar and jimi's vokes too.

and otis doing satisfaction at that same festival (and film)...
and that shot of majestic brian in the crowd there...

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:43

StonesTod Wrote:
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> there is speculation that it was played at the
> final show in SLC on the RTR tour, for which there
> is no extant recording..


youre getting 'sad eyed lady' mixed up with the rumoured version of 'lily rosemary and the jack of hearts' which was supposedly played at that show.

sad eyed lady has never been played live.

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:53

It's hard to sing w/Dylan, he has his own sense of timing, I saw this when he played w/The Grateful Dead and you can see it on the Sao Paulo '98 DVD.

I thought Jagger did a good job with Dylan, giving him his space but eventually taking over.

Bob was low in the mix in the begining of the song, sounded good once they turned him up. I dug the 98 show, thought it was good.

One of these days I have to see either a Brazilian of Argentinian show live, the crowd is non stop energy...looks like a lot of fun!

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: May 13, 2006 02:53

yes, u r right, gazza - I'm getting my epic dylan songs all in a twist....I'm hoping for a performance of a medley of sad eyed>rosemary one of these days, too!

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 13, 2006 03:00

according to Baez, she did indeed do a duet with Bob of "lily, rosemary" at salt lake city. She said that Bob remembered the words by writing them on the cuffs/sleeves of his shirt

Presumably it was just the opening words of each line. As the song has about a million verses, he would have needed to have been wearing a shirt with cuffs similar in size to the ones Jagger was wearing around that time (see the Hey Negrita video) to have got them all on there

Re: Like a Rolling Stone.
Posted by: Leonard Keringer ()
Date: May 13, 2006 03:16

one of the best songs ever..........period...........towers above most songs

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