Does anyone have these gems,and if so can it be kind and uploaded


I been seen more , but cant recall where!Thanks in advance


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The horror, the horror...

Tough manchester jeans.

is that the lady that did that god awful swept away movie?

Wasn't looking too good, but I was feeling real well.

Anita Pallenberg once said that she was going to make a film on Leni...but nothing seems to have happened.

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is that the lady that did that god awful swept away movie?

Lina Wertmuller did Swept Away.

Leni started out as as actress in "Mountain Movies" and then went on to direct some of the most acclaimed documentaries of all time. (Triumph of the Will and Olympiad)


You might have heard of her boss. It was, uh, @#$%&.

she died a coupla years ago at age 100 (!!!!)....still trying to clear her name from the nazi era...of course she couldn't stand @#$%&....

STONES JAM!! MICKEYS RULES!!! (burp) NADER IN 2016!!!!! GO GIANTS!!

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is that the lady that did that god awful swept away movie?

Lina Wertmuller did Swept Away.

Leni started out as as actress in "Mountain Movies" and then went on to direct some of the most acclaimed documentaries of all time. (Triumph of the Will and Olympiad)


You might have heard of her boss. It was, uh, @#$%&.

HAHAHA - yeah i knew there was a lady who made those @#$%& films, but the woman in the photo with Mick didn't seem old enough to have made them, that's why I thought of the Swept Away lady. I get their names confused Lina & Leni.

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I get their names confused Lina & Leni.

Leni couldn't tell Mick and Adolf apart either...but she knew both of them really could work up a crowd...

Jodi Foster has been trying on and off for the past ten years to make her life story. She wants to play Leni in the movie as well.... not sure what the status of that project is at the moment.

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I get their names confused Lina & Leni.

Leni couldn't tell Mick and Adolf apart either...but she knew both of them really could work up a crowd...

Yeah but Mick could never pull off the mustache as well.

EEEWWWW! Mick has a camel toe!

She was the one who made the Nazi propaganda film "Triumph of the Will" replete with scenes at the mass (torchlight and other) rallies in Nurnberg, "perfect specimens" of "Aryans" etc.

lunar:
she died a coupla years ago at age 100 (!!!!)....still trying to clear her name from the nazi era...of course she couldn't stand @#$%&....


u may be right, here is an excerpt from an article in the Atlantic May 2003 edition titled @#$%&'s Forgotten Library - about @#$%&'s private library and what it tells u about the man and such. Same author just published a full book on the same topic.


I also discovered books [in the Library of Congress, brought back from Berlin after the war] from the controversial filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl—two on the Berlin Olympics and an eight-volume set of the complete works of the nineteenth-century German philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte in a rare first edition. Given that @#$%& had charged Riefenstahl with filming the Olympic Games, the presence of the first two volumes was understandable; the Fichte was more puzzling.

When I called on Riefenstahl, who lives outside Munich and had just marked her hundredth birthday, she referred me to her published memoirs, in which she devotes a chapter to the Fichte volumes.

According to that account, in the spring of 1933 the thirty-year-old filmmaker approached @#$%& about the plight of several Jewish friends. "I have great esteem for you as an artist, you have a rare talent," @#$%& replied, according to Riefenstahl. "But I cannot discuss the Jewish problem with you."

Mortified by his rebuke (Riefenstahl says she felt herself go faint), she later sought to make amends by sending @#$%& the Fichte. Bound in white leather with gold embossing, the books bear the inscription "Meinem lieben Führer in tiefster Verehrung ['To my dear Führer with deepest admiration'], Leni Riefenstahl."



real admiration or was this just accomodation so as not to incur @#$%&'s wrath??

What else did she do other than work for @#$%&, musta been something good or I doubt Mick would want anything to do with her. That or maybe her role in the Nazi era and accusations about her were not as well known in 1974 as today.



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Her role as @#$%&'s favorite filmmaker was out there in 1974.

Her film Olympiad about the 1936 Berlin Olympics and Triumph of the Will are--as far as pure filmmaking goes--brilliant works of art.

As far as some of the content, we can all agree on one thing: Nazis = Bad.

"She became a photographer and was later the first to photograph rock star Mick Jagger and his wife Bianca Jagger as a couple, holding hands after they were married, as they were both admirers. Jagger reportedly told Riefenstahl he had seen Triumph of the Will at least 15 times."

[www.newworldencyclopedia.org]

I believe Bianca interviewed Riefenstahl for "Andy Warhol's Interview" circa '73 but I haven't verified that.

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EEEWWWW! Mick has a camel toe!

We all had back then.. I still wear my n*ts with five foots distance..

I caught a lengthy TV special on her approx a decade ago. Her later photography - undersea, Africa - has been highly praised.
She was quoted as saying she'd like Sharon Stone to play her in a movie on her life.

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Her role as @#$%&'s favorite filmmaker was out there in 1974.

Her film Olympiad about the 1936 Berlin Olympics and Triumph of the Will are--as far as pure filmmaking goes--brilliant works of art.

As far as some of the content, we can all agree on one thing: Nazis = Bad.

why would Mick want anything to do with a woman with even possible Nazi-favourable connections? Why would he put himself in a position to even possibly be connected with her and hence with fascism?

"Caesar's wife [and perhaps anyone in the public eye??] must be above suspicion."


"Jagger reportedly told Riefenstahl he had seen Triumph of the Will at least 15 times" -- well one could speculate that there was a lot of power in the "performances" documented in the film as there is in Mick/the Stones' performances, the psychology of the masses, etc.

Perhaps Mick saw a parallel in his mind without necessarily endorsing the views of those documented in her films. Or could have drawn from how those Nurnberg "performances" were staged or done for ideas on doing Stones shows. I don't mean in ideology, but in terms of performance or stage craftmanship.

However, this is only my own speculation, I really don't know, hell, how could I? But it is interesting to consider.

no date on foto

Might this be one?

a cursory match of the foto with the above foto indicates it may well be.


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I don't know how accurate this is, but if true, this does not shed a good light on Riesfenstahl:


World War II: National Socialist Sympathies

During the Invasion of Poland Leni Riefenstahl, wearing a Waffen-SS uniform and a pistol on her belt,[3] accompanied German soldiers in Poland.

On 12 September 1939 she was present in the town of Ko?skie during an execution of 30 civilians carried out in retaliation of an unspecified attack on German soldiers by "bandits". According to her memoir when she tried to intervene, a furious German soldier held her at gun point and threatened to shoot her on the spot.

Close-up photographs from that day survive, showing a distraught Leni. As a result of the events Riefenstahl left her work and immediately went to meet @#$%& who at that time was in Zoppot (now Sopot, Poland) on the Baltic watching Battle of Hel.

In Zoppot, Riefenstahl used her personal influences to demand an audience with Adolf @#$%&. However, by 5 October 1939 Leni Riefenstahl was already back in occupied Poland and filming @#$%&'s victory parade in Warsaw.

The History Channel, on its sister channel, History International, released a documentary entitled, @#$%&'s Women: Leni Riefenstahl[2]. In it, the accusation is made that Riefenstahl was acutely aware that her films were propaganda.

They point to evidence such as the fact that @#$%& had a sit-down discussion between Riefenstahl and @#$%&'s propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels at her personal German villa, as seen in this picture (Registration Required), to resolve differences the two were having which were causing strife in @#$%&'s early regime.

More interesting are the film clips of Riefenstahl dining with Goebbels and Himmler, and other top men of both the Brownshirt and SS branches of NSDAP, intercut with interviews with German historians and WWII scholars questioning how any one could appear at state dinners with top National Socialist officials (eating at the high table with them) and be completely unaware of what politics they were supporting.

Furthering the connection, they cite the fact that Riefenstahl sent a celebratory telegram to @#$%& after the successful military campaign in France, "Your deeds exceed the power of human imagination. They are without equal in the history of mankind. How can we ever thank you?".[4]

Lastly, they detail interviews with actual Gypsy survivors of the Holocaust, who refute Riefenstahl's claims that the concentration camp victims she used for filming were not killed.[5]


URL for full piece:
[fc-web.supportcenter.dk]



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What is the point?

Leni worked for @#$%&, yes we know that.

Mick KNEW Leni worked for @#$%&.


So is Mick a bad person now?

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What is the point?

Leni worked for @#$%&, yes we know that.

Mick KNEW Leni worked for @#$%&.


So is Mick a bad person now?

it would appear to look that way .

Every serious Rolling Stones fan have to read her controversial autobiography, Memoiren (1987), Riefenstahl portrayed herself as an artist, not a propagandist for the National Socialist Workers' Party. She also claimed that she had no political opinions and by the time Germany was collapsing, she hated @#$%&. Enjoying a kind of cult following, her work was widely revaluated in the 1990s, although in Germany a retrospective of her films in Potsdam was greeted with protests The German rock group Rammstein used images of Olympia in 1998 in the video Stripped. Leni Riefenstahl died at the age of 101 in Pöcking, Germany, on 8 September 2003.
This book is amazing, and usefull for rock fans because could some answers about idolatry etc. (thus for Stones, also).

I am raising questions only. That is, if anyone cares to think about it. Up to u, answer the question for yourself and if u wish, to the board.If it even matters to you do do that. I admit I did think about it when I read the thread. And more when I did a little research.

My earlier posts made a lot of room for NOT condemning Mick. Anyone, if they care to, can weigh and balance all this in their mind.

For me personally, I do not think Mick meant anything ill by his association with her. But some could see even the mere association with disapproval a la Reagan at Bitburg.

If u choose to think about it, fine, if not, fine. Think, post, or neither.

And I would like to see the autobiography. And idolatry and Nazis, yes -- that association I don't even have to make.



plexi

..the photo send by Britney is from the book "the first 20 years" by David dalton
...no date...

Leni is doing what all nazis surviving the Nürnberg trials, prosecuted or not, was doing, blaming it on someone else, or claiming not to know. Let´s speculate that the germans had won the war, would she still be claiming not to know what was going on? I think not, she would take every opportunity to make her spot in the limelight legitimate. If you´re on the winning team, why oppose?
But "We only followed orders" was not said only once during the trials..I´ll bet that if she´had been prosecuted, the outcome and following history would have turned out different.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

"she hated @#$%&"
The truth is she SLEPT with @#$%&. Enough of this dead tart. I still wonder how Albert Speer got 20 years at the Nuremberg trial [en.wikipedia.org]

while L.R. was free by 1948...

Don't judge a book by the cover. She was @#$%& victim. Things are not black and white. In her memo she explained all. I have extract from book (in Serbian about). So any Serb, or Croat could email me for to read real truth. Others GO TO LIBRARY!