Of the RS post 1970 stuff, I'd like to see Sticky Fingers, Some Girls, Emotional Rescue and Tattoo all get the Deluxe treatment - That 1977-78ish Pathe-Marconi stuff is just awesome and I sure as hell they don't limit the bonus tracks to 10 and I think I agree with another lister - not sure we need fresh vocals. But, then again - fresh vocals is better that not being released at all.

Tattoo You had to be cobbled together from old leftovers. Only two of the songs on the album were cut specifically for the record. Hard to see how they could have made the album any longer than about 45 minutes, let alone add another disc.

Emotional Rescue had loads of extra songs - but its a 'minor' album and would be well down the pecking order for the deluxe treatment.

Theres only a small number of albums that culturally, critically and commercially would be viable for extended versions. Plus you have also the issue that every post-1970 album has now already been remastered within the last 12 months so it's a bit much to expect fans to buy them all over again.

A series of career retrospective releases (2 or 3-CD releases) covering their unreleased material in chronological order is a far more appropriate and comprehensive alternative IMO.

Well any subsequent deluxe editions are based on the previous album's deluxe edition success, let's not get too hopeful right now on a Some Girls deluxe.

I, for one, would also be looking forward to that. Sadly, I don't have much hope we'll see it considering they might pull the plug on releases at any given moment.

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Theres only a small number of albums that culturally, critically and commercially

how did culturally get into this?

the some girls deluxe treatment would be great with a bonus dvd of live concert footage from that tour

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the some girls deluxe treatment would be great with a bonus dvd of live concert footage from that tour

Let's just hope they won't pick the SNL disaster + rehearsals...

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Theres only a small number of albums that culturally, critically and commercially

how did culturally get into this?

Cant imagine Mojo, Uncut, Rolling Stone and the like spending too many pages for months on end debating the chaotic recording sessions at Pathe Marconi in summer of '79 in the midst of a few New Barbarians shows, somehow!

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the some girls deluxe treatment would be great with a bonus dvd of live concert footage from that tour

Let's just hope they won't pick the SNL disaster + rehearsals...

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disaster? that is vintage stones IMO

the Pathe Marconi sessions would be anything but chaotic IMO. As far as any session by the Stones can be non chaotic. But if they got serious about Exile, the height of chaos, Some Girls should be easy. Plus the sound quality is better by then.
Even Jagger should be able to find those tracks.

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Theres only a small number of albums that culturally, critically and commercially

how did culturally get into this?

Cant imagine Mojo, Uncut, Rolling Stone and the like spending too many pages for months on end debating the chaotic recording sessions at Pathe Marconi in summer of '79 in the midst of a few New Barbarians shows, somehow!

oh, and i thought it was just a rhetorical question. pardon me.

I love the album cover



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How much did they record for Some Girls? I have about 2 albums worth of outtakes.

Would love to have a deluxe Some Girls. Are "Claudine" and "We Had It All" from those sessions?

Sure are.

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How much did they record for Some Girls? I have about 2 albums worth of outtakes.

they recorded some more

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How much did they record for Some Girls? I have about 2 albums worth of outtakes.

they recorded some more

Thanks for the head's up.

more interested in video archives from the some girls era than audio, already have tons of audio and very little video

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Would love to have a deluxe Some Girls. Are "Claudine" and "We Had It All" from those sessions?

Claudine is, but still can't be released.

We had It All is an ER outtake, from Feb 1979.

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Would love to have a deluxe Some Girls. Are "Claudine" and "We Had It All" from those sessions?

Claudine is, but still can't be released.

yeah, but Pauline can.

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Theres only a small number of albums that culturally, critically and commercially would be viable for extended versions. Plus you have also the issue that every post-1970 album has now already been remastered within the last 12 months so it's a bit much to expect fans to buy them all over again.

A series of career retrospective releases (2 or 3-CD releases) covering their unreleased material in chronological order is a far more appropriate and comprehensive alternative IMO.

exactly what i was thinking..similar to Beatles Anthologies....although I believe those were mostly (if not completely) alternates & diff takes
as opposed to unreleased "new" songs. I might be wrong..it's been a while since I listened to my Beatles Anthologies.

Stones could fill them out with live BBC recording etc...

When Beatles & Zep released their BBC recordings...did they have to buy all rights form BBC? Or did they have
shared ownership agreed to before performing for BBC? Or ???


IORR............but I like it!



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From all that I've read, they recorded over 40 tracks for Some Girls and then over 40 tracks for Emotional Rescue. Some of the Some Girls tracks were used for Emotional Rescue. Some of both sessions were used for Tattoo You.

By the time of Undercover, they were still obviously somewhat interested in the mid to late 1970s recordings because of what they did with Cellophane Trousers - Too Tough. That album seems to be the end of the Stones' creativity as a working band. It was the literal last gasp.

So go back to Goats Head Soup - we know there are some unreleased finished tracks. IORR was originally to be a covers EP with the second side being live tracks. That obviously changed. Black And Blue had a plethora of songs, some of which ended up on Tattoo You.

So there are PLENTY of leftover tracks, regardless of state, that could be released.

And I certainly welcome them!

Was listening to the bootleg Twilight Zone yesterday there are at least 4 tracks which could easily be cleaned up and then maybe new vocals be put on and releasable, it would be no problem to have a first class CD, even a double of unreleased material from this period

SOME GIRLS surely is an album that could be easily treated with Deluxe way a'la EXILE, and STICKY FINGERS too - but I guess that's about it (from 1971 on). It would be very difficult to sell Deluxe EMOTIONAL RESCUE for the reasons Gazza mentioned - no cultural, critical or commercial (anymore) push around it.

For this reason I think it would be better to change the tactics from now on and try more capture the 'era' as I take Gazza, Don Was, and Skipstone to say. The eras cannot be divided strictly to singular albums. One era could be like BEGGARS-BLEED sessions - that time capsule of 1968-1969 - would make a great collection of songs. The same goes for Pathe-Marconi sessions that I think should be seen as a whole. If only thd SOME GIRLS out-takes are used that would be a kind of torso.

I think the same releasing policy could be added even to later years. For example, the whole post-STEEL WHEELS period could be covered in one relaese (I have in my mind a kind of thing the latest Dylan bootleg series did with post OH MERCY-stuff that nicely added and enrichened the musical loundscape of recent Dylan years). There should quite a lot of material already in the can from those years (and if some over-dubbing is needed, the anachronism is not such a big issue here). And with some imagination and taste, some very cool packages of pre-BEGGARS material could be done also.

But of course, then there is the commercial aspect: do these "bootleg-kind of" releases sell enough? Or do they need the help the name of some classical album to push them? Perhaps the ideal would be that if first the big ones - EXILE, SOME GIRLS, and STICKY - are re-realesed as deluxe-versions and they sell nicely enough, then they would have "afford" to release some not so easily-marketed stuff - you know, just for "artistic" legacy reasons?

Lastly, some thoughts of which album has enough "artistic, critical, and commercial" success to be "super-deluxed"? I think there is only one album in their catalog that has some kind equalness to EXILE. That is BEGGARS BANQUET. There you have so much story and legend and history involved there to gather kind of hype EXILE did. That's the artistic birth of "The Greatest Rock'n'Roll Band in the World" out of the psychedelic mud of SATANIC MAJESTIES; there you have mythical Brian Jones still present; their most era-relevant anthems, "Sympathy For The Devil", "Street Fighting Man", "Jumping Jack Flash"... the soundtrack of the crazy year 1968... Plus there should be also archive material from ONE PLUS ONE, CIRCUS, etc.

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Well, just about every poll I've ever seen show the big 5 releases to be Beggars, LIB, SF. Exile and Some Girls. I think combining eras isn't a bad idea for the rest, but for these 5 (4 remaining) they should do Deluxe and be generous as they can with bonus tracks. Maybe the Emotional Rescue and Tatoo You periods could be combined. In actuality though, I'd much prefer a "Bootleg Series" like Bob Dylan. If they are just going to ruin the original master of a loud re-release, why not just give us what we really want

How about a Sticky Deluxe?What was recorded during those sessions?
ER could get the treatment as there are two hit songs.Exile only had one.TY would'nt count.Maybe SG is a goer for that kinda thing.

The irony of Emotional Rescue being considered not very commercial - their longest time on the chart at number one album ever!

for deluxe treatment:

1964: Stones Chess Sessions
1967: Their Satanic Majesties Request Sessions
1968: Beggars Banquet Sessions
1978: Some Girls Sessions
1986: Dirty Work Sessions

and the last isn't a joke :-P

..FT. Worth live..for the masses.....that will end any discussion on how great they still were in 78...that tour rocked..

but we've got boots... in excellent quality.

I'd like them to release something we don't have in good quality... or don't know about at all... 70, 71 tours... etc etc studio outtakes...

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Tattoo You had to be cobbled together from old leftovers. Only two of the songs on the album were cut specifically for the record. Hard to see how they could have made the album any longer than about 45 minutes, let alone add another disc.

Emotional Rescue had loads of extra songs - but its a 'minor' album and would be well down the pecking order for the deluxe treatment.

Theres only a small number of albums that culturally, critically and commercially would be viable for extended versions. Plus you have also the issue that every post-1970 album has now already been remastered within the last 12 months so it's a bit much to expect fans to buy them all over again.

A series of career retrospective releases (2 or 3-CD releases) covering their unreleased material in chronological order is a far more appropriate and comprehensive alternative IMO.

Your last statement would be a helluva project received with tremendous enthusiasm from Stones Junkies for sure. A possibility you think?