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10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Lady Jayne ()
Date: May 20, 2010 00:03

The Exile documentary - just saw the add on BBC1



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Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Stargroves ()
Date: May 24, 2010 00:10

Bump!

Any minute nowsmileys with beer

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: May 24, 2010 02:04

Anyone else think the sound of the RIO gig is dreadful???
The rhythm section is almost inaudible, sounds totally unmixed and makes the band seem very shoddy indeed when this was a pretty decent gig in my opinion.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: still ill ()
Date: May 24, 2010 02:23

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vudicus
Anyone else think the sound of the RIO gig is dreadful???
The rhythm section is almost inaudible, sounds totally unmixed and makes the band seem very shoddy indeed when this was a pretty decent gig in my opinion.

I'm not sure showing this immediately after Stones in Exile was a great idea to be honest.

The doc was much better at full length than the cut version on Fallon.The superb footage of Keith and Mick playing that acoustic blues was new to me.I think there should have been a touch more live footage,maybe All Down The Line from Ladies and Gents just to push home just how great they were on that tour.But overall,tremendous doc,all this Exile fan could ever want



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Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: urbanjungle90 ()
Date: May 24, 2010 03:28

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vudicus
Anyone else think the sound of the RIO gig is dreadful???
The rhythm section is almost inaudible, sounds totally unmixed and makes the band seem very shoddy indeed when this was a pretty decent gig in my opinion.

I do agree that it seems a completely different mix to the version I have, and "Sympathy" in particular I thought sounded tired. I wasn't there, so I may be wrong, but that's how it sounded on TV in my opinion.

Anyone notice Leavell videoing on his camcorder on the band introduction? I've seen it several times and never noticed that.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 24, 2010 04:18

Hmm kinda disappointed in the documentary. The re-enactment/fake footage ruins things like this and there was quite a lot of it. thumbs down

Nice to see more of the 1970 Olympic Studios pics of them recording, better if they were in a book though. grinning smiley

Regarding Rio, I could hardly hear the bass on my tv... Strange gig. confused smiley



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Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: May 24, 2010 08:44

wasn't the Rio show webcast as it was happening? i vaguely recall getting up at 2 AM to catch ... something
maybe that's what they broadcast instead of the Biggest Bang mix?



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Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Stargroves ()
Date: May 24, 2010 10:08

The words on pieces of paper re-enactment of Casino Boogie almost settles the argument about the "kissing c*nt in Cannes" line as that is what is written on the flash card.

I say almost because that's what the line is deemed to be now. In '71, who knows?

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: nashville ()
Date: May 24, 2010 11:04

Great documentary. The sound on recent tour live gigs never seems to come over well on TV. I guess you had to be there to get the full effect. Would have been better to put together a compilation of live versions of Exile tracks to keep the theme going.

Andy

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Rik ()
Date: May 24, 2010 11:08

well the rio show was heavily edited, they cut Rambler at the middle piece!

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: still ill ()
Date: May 24, 2010 11:31

Also noticed that they showed a live clip of Mick singing along to Rocks Off so maybe that will be on the Ladies and Gentleman DVD somewhere

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: andy js ()
Date: May 24, 2010 12:02

Those added 'old b&w' bits to the documentary were a bit shit werent they ?

Surely they must have had enough real footage to cobble those together from

Really looking forward to the full length version though

Also agree that the Rio gig was bad. But we knew that already

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Father Ted ()
Date: May 24, 2010 12:14

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still ill
Also noticed that they showed a live clip of Mick singing along to Rocks Off so maybe that will be on the Ladies and Gentleman DVD somewhere

I hope so!

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: still ill ()
Date: May 24, 2010 12:29

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Father Ted
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still ill
Also noticed that they showed a live clip of Mick singing along to Rocks Off so maybe that will be on the Ladies and Gentleman DVD somewhere

I hope so!

Me too.There seemed to be quite a bit of live footage both black and white that i didn't recognise so hopefully some of that might make its way on there

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Braincapers ()
Date: May 24, 2010 23:24

I really enjoyed the documentary and I'm looking forwards to the DVD. There are so many Exile myths that I'm still not sure

How much time Mick J actually spent at Nellcote? How many tracks did they record at Nellcote that dodn't need a lot of finishing off?

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 24, 2010 23:28

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Rik
well the rio show was heavily edited, they cut Rambler at the middle piece!

Yeah, WTF!? confused smiley

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Lady Jayne ()
Date: May 25, 2010 00:05

I thought some of the montages for the individual tracks were quite interesting. Shine a Light, for eg, put together in a way that hinted the song was about Keith, which has always been my theory, rather than Brian.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: The GR ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:49

It got better for me after the intro because a band sanctioned project shouldn't mis-date the 69 press conference and show 69 concert footage as 71.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: rumple21 ()
Date: May 25, 2010 13:25

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vudicus
Anyone else think the sound of the RIO gig is dreadful???
The rhythm section is almost inaudible, sounds totally unmixed and makes the band seem very shoddy indeed when this was a pretty decent gig in my opinion.


Yes - The song SFTD is built on a great funky bassline but on this recording the rhythm section seemed to be playing somewhere outside the stadium.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: May 25, 2010 13:39

Let's ignore the mistakes. Later on in the documentary we hear the studio version of Happy dubbed onto live video of the song..doesn't matter really, it's the overall feel that matters and the story that is being told. The faked bits are fine, obviously they had to fill in the gaps somehow and I think they did it quite well. There wasn't footage of everything, for example the backing singers in LA - they had to fake this bit so as to follow Mick talking about this. They needed to maintain the flow of the narrative.

Overall it is a great film with the right feel to it. I'm looking forward to buying the full length DVD version, which will no doubt have some interesting bonus features.

One thing though - I wish they could have revisited Nellcote, beyond filming the front gate. Perhaps they tried but couldn't persuade the current owner to let them in...



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Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: May 25, 2010 15:46

I didn't mind the fake backing singer scene, it's the parts where they fake the band, now we know which Stone played the Danelectro... none of them hah!

Micks reactions in Olympic were interesting, why did they bother going?

I'll buy the DVD. smiling smiley

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: Filip020169 ()
Date: May 25, 2010 16:22

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andy js

Also agree that the Rio gig was bad. But we knew that already

...I guess the issue here is:
the recent BROADCAST OF the Rio gig on BBC 1 last week (May 23), following the"Exile" docu, was bad- a bad idea, ànd poor sound quality (strange mix, etc.)...
I never heard anybody say here the gíg was bad!!??
I only have the "Biggest Bang" DVD to go on, but I personaly think this was a GREAT ig.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: May 25, 2010 16:34

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His Majesty
I didn't mind the fake backing singer scene, it's the parts where they fake the band, now we know which Stone played the Danelectro... none of them hah!

Micks reactions in Olympic were interesting, why did they bother going?

I'll buy the DVD. smiling smiley

Ok I guess the Danelectro shouldn't have been in the there if they never actually played one! I have to admit to being fooled by some of the fake footage a couple of times - sometimes it was slipped in between the real stuff, so you wouldn't know which was which...at other times it was more obvious.

It seems Mick was a bit embarrassed about visiting the the studios when he must have thought it was a bit silly to go but nevertheless had been persuaded to do so. Olympic at the beginnning and Sunset at the end provide neat bookends to the film so must have been integral to the plan of the film.

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: straycatblues73 ()
Date: May 25, 2010 20:57

i enjoyed the doc. a lot of stuff i never seen before , the above mentioned rocks off , taylor with tele and jagger in seperate booths presumably doing stop breaking down, taylor again with tele at the farewell tour satisfaction . I go and watch it again. rio.... i'll not comment

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: May 27, 2010 11:35

I thought RW was on form at Rio..some nice guitar parts and soloing. The bass was audible on my headphones, I guess it's what system you listened to it through. I noticed RW was loud in the mix but KR was quieter - some might say this was a good thing!

Re: 10.25pm Sunday 23rd May BBC1
Posted by: mrfancyman ()
Date: May 29, 2010 23:05

In my TV guide (VPRO gids) "Stones in Exile" is scheduled on BBC2 tonight, 23:10 (dutch time) until 0:45.
That's 1 hr. and 35 minutes, let's say 1,5 hr.
The dutch broadcast, earlier this month, was only 1 hr.
Will this be the complete DVD whichs will be released later?

Mr.Fancyman



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