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i'll defer to others...just going on faint memory of some of my many '73 tour recordings that i haven't heard in eons, but i believe there are versions devoid of trevor solos, yes....
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
I know it was a long time ago -36 years- but I can assure you my friend is not senile yet.
But he was at the belgium show ( 9pm one )
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
You've got a pic of the man?
In the Rolling With The Stones book by Wyman there's a 2-page picture of Rotterdam, and right in front of Billy Preston there's this percussion player.
Mathijs
You Can't Always Get What You Want (11:06): Long improvised solo's by Taylor and Bobby Keys highlight the center section of the song. Listen for Keith's rhythm playing during the saxophone solo. A testament to his skill as a rhythm guitarist.
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Well,let's say then that both rollingstonesnet.com and my friend are talking bullshit
Although I wasn't there ,were you ?
I mean I can't be sure at 100% Keyes played in Brussells ,so you can't be that point-blank telling it was Trevor.
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
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Sax Question
Posted by:
Taylor Era
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Date: June 25, 2009 19:57
On YCAGWYW on 'Brussel's Affair,' Bobby Keys plays an extended sax solo, and although I find what goes on under the solo more interesting than the actual solo itself (Keith and MT's riffing) ..I was wondering if this extended sax solo was typical of performances of that time and tour on that song. Or, are there any decent sounding versions of YCAGWYW from that tour where there is only a MT guitar solo and no sax solo? I'd like to snag such an animal if it exists.
Just wondering.
Just wondering.
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:13
not bobby - we wasn't on the tour - thats' trevor lawrence. bobby, as much as i love the guy, doesn't have the chops to play like that....
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Taylor Era
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:19
not bobby - we wasn't on the tour - thats' trevor lawrence.
- - oh ya? ok, cool; I just assumed it was bobby
ya learn sumthin new everyday in Stonesland
- - oh ya? ok, cool; I just assumed it was bobby
ya learn sumthin new everyday in Stonesland
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Voja
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:28
It's either Trevor Lawrence or Steve Madaio playing on Brussels
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:37
man i am doing a deja vu ,i thought i was asking that question remember ?Quote
T&A
not bobby - we wasn't on the tour - thats' trevor lawrence. bobby, as much as i love the guy, doesn't have the chops to play like that....
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Taylor Era
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:45
ya ok but are there any decent recording of YCAGWYW from this tour without an extended sax solo? Or is that just the way they were playing it that time around?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-25 20:45 by Taylor Era.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-25 20:45 by Taylor Era.
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:47
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The Greekman i am doing a deja vu ,i thought i was asking that question remember ?Quote
T&A
not bobby - we wasn't on the tour - thats' trevor lawrence. bobby, as much as i love the guy, doesn't have the chops to play like that....
we have all been here before
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:48
Quote
Taylor Era
ya ok but are there any decent recording of YCAGWYW from this tour without an extended sax solo? Or is that just the way they were playing it that time around?
i'll defer to others...just going on faint memory of some of my many '73 tour recordings that i haven't heard in eons, but i believe there are versions devoid of trevor solos, yes....
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:52
Quote
T&A
not bobby - we wasn't on the tour - thats' trevor lawrence. bobby, as much as i love the guy, doesn't have the chops to play like that....
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: June 25, 2009 20:57
according to the best sources i've seen (zentgraf), bobby left the tour at the end of september....so he wouldn't have been at brussels
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
StonesFanatic
()
Date: June 25, 2009 21:03
Bobby was kicked off the tour due to his heroin addiction (oh, the irony) late Sept '73...
I think the sax solo is rather pathetic...it never really goes anywhere and sort of just plays the main riff melody over and over. MT and KR's guitarwork underneath is more interesting...
I think the sax solo is rather pathetic...it never really goes anywhere and sort of just plays the main riff melody over and over. MT and KR's guitarwork underneath is more interesting...
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: June 25, 2009 22:54
The best part about the Sax solo is the idea of it; the very first two bars. After that he kind of blows the main riff over and over, albeit nice and clean.
But - most of the renditions of that song are only Taylor on the solo. A while back someone told me the pattern of the Sax solo. It only happened when...(not often though)
But - most of the renditions of that song are only Taylor on the solo. A while back someone told me the pattern of the Sax solo. It only happened when...(not often though)
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: June 26, 2009 12:04
I just spoke on the phone with a friend of mine who was on the Brussel show in 1973(lucky man ! )
He confirmed that Bobby Keys played that night.The song was played for almost 10 minutes with,he said ,a Bobby Keys solo .And a long Taylor guitar solo too.
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-26 12:13 by SwayStones.
He confirmed that Bobby Keys played that night.The song was played for almost 10 minutes with,he said ,a Bobby Keys solo .And a long Taylor guitar solo too.
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-26 12:13 by SwayStones.
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: June 26, 2009 12:57
Bobby plays more diverse solos, imo. Doesn't sound like him, doesn't sound like his tone either. But if your friend says so...
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
StonesFanatic
()
Date: June 26, 2009 14:10
But it's *not* Keyes...he was sacked in late Sept '73!!
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: June 26, 2009 14:59
zengraf is for sure one of the best source..but he says probably only until September 28) .Quote
T&A
according to the best sources i've seen (zentgraf), bobby left the tour at the end of september....so he wouldn't have been at brussels
I know it was a long time ago -36 years- but I can assure you my friend is not senile yet.
But he was at the belgium show ( 9pm one )
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: June 26, 2009 15:11
It's still unclear if Keys played on the last shows, but pictures from Brussels and Berlin only show Trevor Lawrence or Steve Madaio in front of Wyman. Also the footage of the Brussels show from the French TV does not show Keys playing if I recall correctly.
Also on this tour, some shows (Rotterdam for example) featured an additional percussion player who still is not identified.
Mathijs
Also on this tour, some shows (Rotterdam for example) featured an additional percussion player who still is not identified.
Mathijs
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
albop
()
Date: June 26, 2009 15:56
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DandelionPowderman
Bobby plays more diverse solos, imo. Doesn't sound like him, doesn't sound like his tone either. quote]
I agree. I'm sax player and I think that the solo doesn't sound like a Bobby's solo. Also, I think that the sax player is not very right by moment.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-26 16:12 by albop.
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: June 26, 2009 17:06
there's not a chance that it's bobby playing that solo on the brussels recording....that's trevor, without a doubt.
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
slasausjes
()
Date: June 26, 2009 17:13
Quote
Mathijs
It's still unclear if Keys played on the last shows, but pictures from Brussels and Berlin only show Trevor Lawrence or Steve Madaio in front of Wyman. Also the footage of the Brussels show from the French TV does not show Keys playing if I recall correctly.
Also on this tour, some shows (Rotterdam for example) featured an additional percussion player who still is not identified.
Mathijs
You've got a pic of the man?
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: June 26, 2009 17:15
Quote
slasausjesQuote
Mathijs
It's still unclear if Keys played on the last shows, but pictures from Brussels and Berlin only show Trevor Lawrence or Steve Madaio in front of Wyman. Also the footage of the Brussels show from the French TV does not show Keys playing if I recall correctly.
Also on this tour, some shows (Rotterdam for example) featured an additional percussion player who still is not identified.
Mathijs
You've got a pic of the man?
In the Rolling With The Stones book by Wyman there's a 2-page picture of Rotterdam, and right in front of Billy Preston there's this percussion player.
Mathijs
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
slasausjes
()
Date: June 26, 2009 17:16
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-26 17:23 by slasausjes.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-06-26 17:23 by slasausjes.
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
slasausjes
()
Date: June 26, 2009 17:22
Mathijs, if you mean page 419: maybe O. Brown before his hair-cut? In fairness, I have no clue. Good Question!
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: June 26, 2009 18:02
Quote
T&A
there's not a chance that it's bobby playing that solo on the brussels recording....that's trevor, without a doubt.
You Can't Always Get What You Want (11:06): Long improvised solo's by Taylor and Bobby Keys highlight the center section of the song. Listen for Keith's rhythm playing during the saxophone solo. A testament to his skill as a rhythm guitarist.
[www.rollingstonesnet.com]
Well,let's say then that both rollingstonesnet.com and my friend are talking bullshit
Although I wasn't there ,were you ?
I mean I can't be sure at 100% Keyes played in Brussells ,so you can't be that point-blank telling it was Trevor.
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: June 26, 2009 18:05
i can and i did - but i'm kinda special, so....
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: June 26, 2009 22:13
Some time ago somebody posted some great very large pictures from Brussels, taken from the left side of the stage. Does anyone know where these pics can be found?
Mathijs
Mathijs
Re: Sax Question
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: June 26, 2009 22:23
Anyway Bobby used a"Berg Larsen" mouthpiece,one of the dirtiest you can get 
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