I didnt know what to say to him.

.........tell him not ta spoil a good drink......



ROCKMAN

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kleermaker
Well, mr dja, I wrote my last post without having read yours before (I saw it after that). I think in my turn that you come pretty close to what I mean, though StonesTod claims you as a witness of his own opinion, which is just fun.

A nice story. In my opinion you say: I enjoy the music of my daughter very much (of course!) but I know that it's not of great quality. It's simply the reverse of what I said before: one can dislike a piece of art and at the same time acknowledge that it's great art.

You got it exactly... On both counts... I find it fun(ny) that StonesTod thought I was saying the same thing as him/her as well. Must be the language barrier...

I think that where art (of all kinds) is concerned, beauty is most definately in the eyes/ears/soul of the beholder. Can certain attributes be used to measure the quality, sure. The hardest part in judging or rating art is the fact that many times the people doing the judging have little knowledge of the goals of the producers. See: Lester "Roadhog" Moran & The Cadillac Cowboys for an example of this theory.

Gotta Run!

Peace,
Mr DJA

Peace to ya all

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kleermaker
I once have written something about a version of YCAGWYW and the result was that an expert like HM (yes he is!) said that because of that little piece he could listen with other ears to that version than before (no jokes about the new ears of HM please).

No doubt about it, that was a sweet piece of writing. I'd say your presence here has pushed me to re-evaluate a period I'd once enjoyed, but turned away from.

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rootsman
I´d rather have/get opinions about "what´s best" than speculations about MT´s possible guitar overdubs...

Both in moderation would be nice.

SLAM!!!!!!! UP the TOP baby... hey this one was cool when it was rollin'.....

Dick Stratton's --- Pistol Boogie .... On the Tennessee label 700-800 Series..

.........Oh honey does that thing rockkkkkkkk....



ROCKMAN

No,we shouldn´t.
It´s most times amazing and interesting.

I prefer the dumbest "best of" / "worst..." thread towards the neverendingwigandbodypartsthreads...

I think we should proceed. It's always interesting to see what attracts other people.

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kleermaker

We're not talking about taste, NICOS. Besides peanut butter is no art. Even producing it is no art: just take some peanuts and stamp your feet on them.

By the way, does the term "art" apply to the Stones music? Personally, I would not consider the music I like (e.g. americana, vernacular music) as the art. Music is more emotion to me and a kind of universal language everyone understands, but not the art.

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AP
I think we should proceed. It's always interesting to see what attracts other people.

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kleermaker

We're not talking about taste, NICOS. Besides peanut butter is no art. Even producing it is no art: just take some peanuts and stamp your feet on them.

By the way, does the term "art" apply to the Stones music? Personally, I would not consider the music I like (e.g. americana, vernacular music) as the art. Music is more emotion to me and a kind of universal language everyone understands, but not the art.

Do you consider classical music (Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven etc.) as 'art' or do you think music isn't a form of art anyway?

Btw: In my view all arts are about feelings and emotions.

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kleermaker
Do you consider classical music (Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven etc.) as 'art' or do you think music isn't a form of art anyway?

Btw: In my view all arts are about feelings and emotions.

Well, I do not hear any real feeling and emotion in classical music, unfortunately. But when a black guy sits on the back porch with his guitar out of tune and starts singing the blues, I do get appropriate feelings and emotions. Maybe classical music is true and ultimate art, but my blood is still cold anyway after listening to it. Maybe I just need different feelings and emotions, who knows. Nice topic to discuss. I look at my shelves full of music and really do not want to put the "art" tag on it. Art is something too abstract to me. That's my feeling. Maybe I'll be able to formulate it in a better way someday.

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kleermaker
Do you consider classical music (Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven etc.) as 'art' or do you think music isn't a form of art anyway?

Btw: In my view all arts are about feelings and emotions.

Well, I do not hear any real feeling and emotion in classical music, unfortunately. But when a black guy sits on the back porch with his guitar out of tune and starts singing the blues, I do get appropriate feelings and emotions. Maybe classical music is true and ultimate art, but my blood is still cold anyway after listening to it. Maybe I just need different feelings and emotions, who knows. Nice topic to discuss. I look at my shelves full of music and really do not want to put the "art" tag on it. Art is something too abstract to me. That's my feeling. Maybe I'll be able to formulate it in a better way someday.

Sometimes it's also a matter of familiarity. It's funny that many lovers of classical music aren't able to hear any feelings or emotions in the music of the Stones. I'm a very limited guy, but I fortunately can hear feelings and emotions in the Stones' music as well as in Mozart's music.

The arts aren't that abstract at all: music, painting, sculpture, literature, theatre, movie. Sometimes even palpable, thus very concrete instead of abstract. Well, I forgot one special art: Dutch football.

As for classical music: listen regularly to this piece (one of my 'favourites' on YT). Maybe you'll say some day: Yes!! The same feelings and emotions as I can hear in the blues and in the best Stones' music! Then a new world has opened itself for you.

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kleermaker

Well, I forgot one special art: Dutch football.

Well, one Dutch coach left our national team recently, and another one seems to be heading it now for huge money. Not sure if I like it that much, though that latter coach brought the UEFA cup to my hometown...

Thanks for the youtube link anyway.

Forget about best or worst: what's the Stones' most fair to middling album?

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Forget about best or worst: what's the Stones' most fair to middling album?

Black And Blue?

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shortfatfanny
No,we shouldn´t.
It´s most times amazing and interesting.

I prefer the dumbest "best of" / "worst..." thread towards the neverendingwigandbodypartsthreads...

shortfatfanny..Your right there Mate..especially that bit about *threads towards the never ending wig and body parts*couldnt of said it better myself what a lot of nonsence that is..how would ya think Mick or anyone else would feel come think of that if they were to see all that silly nonsence on the internet about themselves for the whole world to see..and on a fan club site of all places.

This is easily a top 30 thread