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Sway714
So it does not sound worse than any other songs played on rock radio today.
Rough Justice got played around here. Not much,but a bit. I'm sure PMS will get a bit of airplay.Quote
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barbabang
Thanks for the story UrbanSteel.
Too bad about the loudness, I don't see what is the point in that at all. It ruins the dynamics.
Going to buy it anyway. Want to support more archive releases
The reason for the LOUDNESS is so when the tracks get played on ( already over compressed radio ) the tracks hold up to the current trend of whatever mastering converters they are using today. ie: So it does not sound worse than any other songs played on rock radio today.
Will the new tracks even GET played on the radio? Rough Justice didn't get played on the radio. Not even on classic rock stations.
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Beelyboy
good time woman spiffed up and released is worth it right there to me...
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whitem8
Yeah, well some "fans" here will never be satisfied, but I for one can't wait. I think the deluxe package looks beautiful, and the material sounds very interesting. YAY!
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open-g
Is evrything awright in the critics section?
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thkbeercan
alladin story, i'm not signifying, dancing in the light are from the trident mixes, apparently with 2010 additions. these tracks weren't much to listen to way back when. don't see how new vocals or additional overdubs will make then any more attractive.
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Sway714
So it does not sound worse than any other songs played on rock radio today.
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stonesstein
For 20 years, everyone bitched because the Stones would not unzip the pants of their vaults. Now that they are unzipping, everyone keeps on bitching. I have every single track in traded circles and all of the releases, reissues, alternate remasters, etc., and I can't wait to get my hands on the new stuff, because whatever we have, we ain't got dis stuff, babies!
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skipstone
I wish the term "let's face it" was never invented.
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WeLoveYou
I quite like the idea of the Stones using outtakes and then dressing them up for release. They could come up with a lot of 'new' material this way. Surely it doesn't matter if the outtakes are old...they created the material, what they do with it is up to them.
They could use 1960s outtakes and add new instrument / vocal parts....could be interesting, and we'd get a few good new albums this way.
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skipstone
I wish the term "let's face it" was never invented.
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skipstone
I wish the term "let's face it" was never invented.
Well, let's face it, it's here to stay. Face it!
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WeLoveYou
I quite like the idea of the Stones using outtakes and then dressing them up for release. They could come up with a lot of 'new' material this way. Surely it doesn't matter if the outtakes are old...they created the material, what they do with it is up to them.
They could use 1960s outtakes and add new instrument / vocal parts....could be interesting, and we'd get a few good new albums this way.
I'd rather they didnt, for the simple reason that it just shows they're bereft of ideas. Especially songs recorded decades earlier. They were a different band then.
Personally, I'd far rather they released previously unavailable songs 'as is' IF they are finished or very close to it - but only on the understanding that they ARE presented and packaged as 'archive material'.
However, as I said before, with Exile its a bit different to other Stones albums. More songs were released on this album than on any other record they ever made. Instead of dropping songs to come out with a final 10 or 12 for a single LP they were probably throwing on whatever they had to fill up a double. It also came out at a time when they were prolific and were releasing a new record every year or so. So, to expect them to have a lot of finished songs left over from a DOUBLE album is ludicrous - especially considering with the way the band makes records - including this one - ie, the fact that most of the vocals were probably only completed AFTER they went to LA, as were the contributions of a lot of the external musicians on the record.
When you look at it from that perspective, whilst its IMO their greatest album, if you're going to pick an album to launch what will hopefully be the first of many reissues with bonus material, 'Exile' is really not a good choice because its probably one of their albums that has the fewest number of unreleased but finished songs. That said, a few more alternate versions of the released songs would have been nice.
So, in this case, adding some 'fairy dust' to a few songs is understandable, so long as its not too excessive.
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.....well that's as a rhetorical question.....
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redsock
i remain 100% against any modern tinkering with the nearly 40-year-old tracks. i was originally thinking if the stones won't release these tracks "as is", then don't bother doing it at all.
but i'm feeling now that in order to get ANY new stuff from the vaults, the modern tinkering on some other outtakes is part of the price to pay. i still think it sucks and it's wrong, but maybe the "as is" versions of those will leak out later.