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They didn't tour in 1968 ! and barely not in 1971 (15 shows only)
Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
1971 was taken up w/finishing up Sticky Fingers, moving to France, and recording Exile, + the Farewell to England Tour.
Yeah, of the "special occasion" of 71 UK tour. That was the last time The Stones seemed conceptually distinguish UK tour from the rest of Europe. Remember, there was no UK shows in 1970 European Tour. Since 1973 UK have been a part of European tour (expect, of course, the tax problems during BRIDGES tour.) The 'exile' seemed to affect quite a lot to their policies as a touring band. One could say that since then they came an international band that seemed to privelege the American market, while in the 60's they operated as having England as their base - the odd Hyde Park show is a testimony of their attitude of the time (and they did few shows after Altamont in England as well).
But as far as the pattern "Go and tour America every three years, and in Europe (or in the rest of the world - remember Australian (etc.) tour 1973!) if you can or feel like" goes - the true issue seems to be: what happened to 1979 European tour?
- Doxa
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-25 00:44 by Doxa.
They also were recording Emotional Rescue which were delayed till 1980.
Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-25 12:50 by olorin.
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No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
olorin
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Date: June 24, 2008 19:07
This may be asked before but does anybody know why the band didn't tour to promote IORR album ? Keith's drug problem ?
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Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: June 24, 2008 19:23
1975 tour
If You Can't Rock Me
Ain't Too Proud To Beg
IORR
Luxury
Dance Little Sister
Fingerprint File
60% of the album played live
2005-06-07 tour
50% of the album played live
If You Can't Rock Me
Ain't Too Proud To Beg
IORR
Luxury
Dance Little Sister
Fingerprint File
60% of the album played live
2005-06-07 tour
50% of the album played live
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: June 24, 2008 19:30
Because they toured for 12 straight years.
Mathijs
Mathijs
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
olorin
()
Date: June 24, 2008 19:51
Quote
Mathijs
Because they toured for 12 straight years.
Mathijs
They didn't tour in 1968 ! and barely not in 1971 (15 shows only)
Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
hot stuff
()
Date: June 24, 2008 19:54
they did tour 1972-73....rest is 74 and hit the road again in 75....give them a break! ha...
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
HEILOOBAAS
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Date: June 24, 2008 19:57
Quote
olorinQuote
Mathijs
Because they toured for 12 straight years.
Mathijs
They didn't tour in 1968 ! and barely not in 1971 (15 shows only)
1971 was taken up w/finishing up Sticky Fingers, moving to France, and recording Exile, + the Farewell to England Tour.
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
Pecman
()
Date: June 24, 2008 20:02
Because Keith spent 6 months living at Ronnie Wood's house making Ronnie Woods first solo album plus he worked on John Phillips Pay Pack and Follow and then he spent time doing Ronnie Wood's next solo album "Now Look" or "Look Now"...and spent time working on IORR and some tracks for Black and Blue...actually quite a busy year for Keith...plus I think he was busy learning how to ski...
PECMAN
PECMAN
Re: No 1974 tour, because
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: June 24, 2008 21:40
olorin, try looking at the pattern of tours from 66 through 82:
the "usual" was a US tour every three years - 66, 69, 72, 75, 78, 81 -
and a European tour every three years as well - 67, 70, 73, 76 ... hiccup! ... 82.
a tour in 74 wouldn't have fit the pattern. the aberrancies are the 71 UK tour -
which was a "special occasion", because they were leaving England - and the lack of a 79 tour, which ...
well, maybe that was another "special occasion", to even things up. :E
and as someone's already noted, they did tour to promote IORR - in 75 -
and Keith was quite productively occupied in 74 (not with Pay Pack & Follow, though - that was 76/77)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-24 21:46 by with sssoul.
the "usual" was a US tour every three years - 66, 69, 72, 75, 78, 81 -
and a European tour every three years as well - 67, 70, 73, 76 ... hiccup! ... 82.
a tour in 74 wouldn't have fit the pattern. the aberrancies are the 71 UK tour -
which was a "special occasion", because they were leaving England - and the lack of a 79 tour, which ...
well, maybe that was another "special occasion", to even things up. :E
and as someone's already noted, they did tour to promote IORR - in 75 -
and Keith was quite productively occupied in 74 (not with Pay Pack & Follow, though - that was 76/77)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-24 21:46 by with sssoul.
Re: No 1974 tour, because
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: June 25, 2008 00:40
Quote
with sssoul
olorin, try looking at the pattern of tours from 66 through 82:
the "usual" was a US tour every three years - 66, 69, 72, 75, 78, 81 -
and a European tour every three years as well - 67, 70, 73, 76 ... hiccup! ... 82.
a tour in 74 wouldn't have fit the pattern. the aberrancies are the 71 UK tour -
which was a "special occasion", because they were leaving England - and the lack of a 79 tour, which ...
well, maybe that was another "special occasion", to even things up. :E
and as someone's already noted, they did tour to promote IORR - in 75 -
and Keith was quite productively occupied in 74 (not with Pay Pack & Follow, though - that was 76/77)
Yeah, of the "special occasion" of 71 UK tour. That was the last time The Stones seemed conceptually distinguish UK tour from the rest of Europe. Remember, there was no UK shows in 1970 European Tour. Since 1973 UK have been a part of European tour (expect, of course, the tax problems during BRIDGES tour.) The 'exile' seemed to affect quite a lot to their policies as a touring band. One could say that since then they came an international band that seemed to privelege the American market, while in the 60's they operated as having England as their base - the odd Hyde Park show is a testimony of their attitude of the time (and they did few shows after Altamont in England as well).
But as far as the pattern "Go and tour America every three years, and in Europe (or in the rest of the world - remember Australian (etc.) tour 1973!) if you can or feel like" goes - the true issue seems to be: what happened to 1979 European tour?
- Doxa
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-25 00:44 by Doxa.
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
mighty stork
()
Date: June 25, 2008 00:46
I think Mick Taylor leaving the band may have also had something to do with it. As stated earlier they had a pattern of touring every three years with time off to make a new album.
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
Zack
()
Date: June 25, 2008 00:48
IORR wasn't released till October 18, then Taylor quit in December. That pretty much explains it.
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
olorin
()
Date: June 25, 2008 01:05
Thanks you guys for explanations but I just would clear something up. I never reproached them for not touring, I just tried to understand why they didn't tour in 1974. This was only the second they didn't tour since 1962, and we can imagine the reason for not touring in 1968 (Brian's health?).
Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: June 25, 2008 01:14
I always read that - I'm not saying they didn't promote IORR but - with Made In The Shade, the tour was somewhat about that. The first tour without a new studio record but a hits comp. The second of course being Licks.
Re: No 1974 tour, because
Posted by:
ryanpow
()
Date: June 25, 2008 01:52
Quote
DoxaQuote
with sssoul
- the true issue seems to be: what happened to 1979 European tour?
- Doxa
This could be because there was a lot of uncertianty about the future of the band. They might not have made any plans to contiune the 78 tour the following year in Europe because Keith was awaiting sentencing in the fall of 78. If he was gunna be locked up that would be the end of the stones.
Re: No 1974 tour, because
Posted by:
olorin
()
Date: June 25, 2008 02:47
Quote
ryanpowQuote
DoxaQuote
with sssoul
- the true issue seems to be: what happened to 1979 European tour?
- Doxa
This could be because there was a lot of uncertianty about the future of the band. They might not have made any plans to contiune the 78 tour the following year in Europe because Keith was awaiting sentencing in the fall of 78. If he was gunna be locked up that would be the end of the stones.
They also were recording Emotional Rescue which were delayed till 1980.
Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-25 12:50 by olorin.
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
soundcheck
()
Date: June 25, 2008 05:53
... a better question would have been 'why did they tour in '06'????
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
The GR
()
Date: June 25, 2008 14:22
They were 'retiring' after the 75/76 tour and did the 78 tour for the money. No money for a European tour in those days so 1979 Europe didn't happen.
Re: No 1974 tour, why?
Posted by:
Anonymous User
()
Date: June 25, 2008 21:03
maybe because mick taylor had a foot out the door after all is said and done mick taylor resigned (idiot)in december 1974.
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