I know that the Mick Taylor autobiog thread has been done to death so what about Charlie? No doubting his place in the rock pantheon. Drummer, style icon and owner of cars that he can't drive ( a true English eccentric). This is a book that would grace any Stones fans library.

Get that pen out Charlie.

I can imagine he's ready with a couple of pages;he hates talking...

Hope he loves writing .... because I think he will tell the truth

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I would surely read it!

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Think he will call his autobiography

"5 years working and 20 years hanging around"

or

10 years working and 35 years hanging around"

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Don't you think Charlie has more style than to go for the bucks and dish his personal life, the band, etc.?

>> dish his personal life, the band, etc.? <<

pardon the digression, but: what do you mean by "dish", stonesrule?
you've used it a couple of times, and it's not in my dialect, and i'm curious.
besides the meaning, anything you could say about where it comes from, what milieus it's used in, etc
would be gratefully received.

as he is such a sophisticated british gentleman, he would never talk about his affairs

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Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Sir Craven of Cottage Wrote:
-and owner of cars that he can't drive

I've heard this before about Charlie.
How true is this, and does he choose not to drive or
is prevented for some reason?

I think the story is that he never got a license

Ronnie mentions Charlie...the cars and the suits...





ROCKMAN

Hi sssoul. "Dish" is a common American expression these days for "gossip". "Dishing the dirt" is a staple of the tabloids. It's, for example, what Ronnie Wood's publishers made sure would be included before they did that deal.

"Wild stuff, preferably drugs and sex," a quality publisher told a friend of mine about a book he is shopping about his life on the road. This musician is known for his sensitive writing and performing and he told them "that sort of thing was back in the seventies when I was getting started. You grow out of it. I don't remember most of the names of the girls or the dealers and I don't want to." Like many musicians he assumed they wanted an emphasis on creating music, anecdotes about traveling the world, and favorite moments of his career, excitement of winning Grammys etc. But apparently"dish" is the main ingredient that drives the money up.

I have always understood dish to be an English English expression meaning to "spill the beans" - but maybe it did come to us from across the pond.

Anyway, that apart, I'm waiting/hoping for Charlie to release a book of his drawings of all those hotel rooms.

Yes, I'm sure you're right Beast. Originated in England quite some time ago but in last few years has taken on a new life for a certain American crowd who appear to believe in intense invasion of privacy. Larry King is one of the first people who comes to mind -- how many times over an hours did he say oh so sympathetically to Eric Clapton, "But getting back to the tragic death of your son....etc. etc."

And then there is also, "dis," which I've used in Scrabble against my 13 year old! From the Urban Dictionary

1. dis


1.to disrespect some one
2.this

1. she dised u so fu&%in bad u turned red
2.dis sh*t is fo sheezy

"dis" i'm familiar with. thank you stonesrule & Beast for the "dish" insights!
so in both varieties of English it's used the same way - mainly as a transitive verb,
and the object is either "the dirt" or whatever topic someone is spilling the beans about?
and there's no "on" or "about" or other preposition? as in ... hm ...
"King was trying to get Clapton to dish the death of his son" - does that sound like normal usage?
or if not, could you fix that sentence so it does sound like normal usage? heaps of gratitude await. :E

oh and: is it used freely in all tenses? so far what i've seen are infinitve uses like "he's too classy to".

>> But apparently "dish" is the main ingredient <<

interesting - so it's also used as a noun? could one say ... oh for example ...
"there's too much (or not enough) dish in the book for my tastes"?



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Interesting story about Charlie and his cars ...

A suit to match each car!

How cool is that?

Marv Peck

Y'all remember that rubber legged boy

I wish he would, it would be the only stones book done with pure dignity, since charlie is the only stone that has any

OK, cars he can't drive, and a suit to match each car.

Is that a symptom of obsessive-compulsive disorder?

No. It's just English eccentricity.

Posted by: stonesrule (IP Logged)
Date: November 24, 2007 02:00


Don't you think Charlie has more style than to go for the bucks and dish his personal life, the band, etc.?

I'm not interested in Charlies private live, but his opinion on a lot of thinks happend in his Stones live ....and why Dish maybe his memories are all positive.

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I sure hope so...

>> and why Dish maybe his memories are all positive. <<

uh ohh - another language-type question, sorry!
is "dish" by definition negative? or simply gossipy?

NICOS Wrote:
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> Posted by: stonesrule (IP Logged)
> Date: November 24, 2007 02:00
>
>
> Don't you think Charlie has more style than to go
> for the bucks and dish his personal life, the
> band, etc.?
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> I'm not interested in Charlies private live, but
> his opinion on a lot of thinks happend in his
> Stones live ....and why Dish maybe his memories
> are all positive.
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I would like to hear Charlie tell his story. His take on the Stones; he must have loads of original stories that he can tell without dishing the dirt as it were. It would also be good to read about his love of jazz and antique suits. A few years back I listened to him on Desert Island Discs. He was very engaging in a laid back manner. Of all the Stones he is the greatest enigma.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> and why Dish maybe his memories are all
> positive. <<
>
> uh ohh - another language-type question, sorry!
> is "dish" by definition negative? or simply
> gossipy?


You get served a dish - eat it or leave it.
(take it or not, like it or not)

well, thats my understanding of dish.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> and why Dish maybe his memories are all
> positive. <<
>
> uh ohh - another language-type question, sorry!
> is "dish" by definition negative? or simply
> gossipy?


I'm not Englisch With Sssoul, when I read the first time the word dish (altough I don't know the translation) the first think that came up was ...... telling not positive stories something like put them in the dishwasher ..

I can't remember where you'r from but for most foreigners it is not easy to express them self in an other languest (hope I spell this right)

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[idioms.thefreedictionary.com]

dish the dirt (informal)
to tell people unpleasant or shocking personal information about someone. Shauna agreed to dish the dirt on her millionaire ex-lover for a fee of £5,000. (often + on) Some journalists just enjoy dishing the dirt.

dish out something
to give something too freely and in large amounts. The mayor was famous for dishing out political favors to his pals.
Usage notes: often it is criticism or unfriendly remarks that are dished out: She dished out insults as easily as some of us dish out praise. sometimes appears as the full expression you can dish it out but you can't take it you can give criticism freely but you cannot deal with it yourself: I try not to argue with him because I know he can dish it out but he can't take it.
Related vocabulary: dish the dirt (on someone/something)
Etymology: based on the literal meaning of dish out food (= to serve food)

dish the dirt (on someone/something)
to talk about other people without worrying about being truthful. E-mail us and dish the dirt on anyone ? husbands, kids, whoever. Did you know that now astronauts can dish the dirt from space?
Related vocabulary: dish out something
Etymology: based on the phrase dish out food (= to serve food ) and dirt (= negative information about a person)
See also: dirt

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> and why Dish maybe his memories are all
> positive. <<
>
> uh ohh - another language-type question, sorry!
> is "dish" by definition negative? or simply
> gossipy?

i might be wrong but I think it could be either. But in UK we don't normally use "dish" on its own - usually we add "the dirt" :-)

thanks Nicos & open-g. i have a sense of "the dirt" (in other idioms, anyway) as being close to "the lowdown" -
something like "the true inside-story-type details", whether they're unpleasant or not:
people may be hoping for sordid stories, but "the dirt" might turn out to be just neutral, innocuous
or even nice, like "they're engaged" or "she's pregnant" or ... both. :E
but if "dish the dirt [on someone]" is always negative/sordid ... okay! thanks.

i hope stonesrule and/or Beast will also say more about the use "dish his personal life/the band/etc" -
until further notice i'll theorize that it's also got this "always-negative" sense,
but i'd be grateful for confirmation from people who use the phrase. thanks again.



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>> i might be wrong but I think it could be either. But in UK we don't normally use "dish" on its own - usually we add "the dirt" <<

ahh thank you Beast - we were posting simultaneously.
so i wonder if this usage without "the dirt" is a new-ish thing - possibly a conflation with "to dis someone"?



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