I would like to point out a couple songs that first stick out in my mind for this discussion.
"I'm Going Down"
"Zip Mouth Angel"
Listening to these on boot's my first impression is - raw, the sound is great! vocals rough. The sound is so tight! It leaves a mighty impression of how the Stones got the reputation of being the World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band.
Then you take "I'm Going Down" and listen to it properly mixed & compare it to the boot. The drum sound is HORRIBLE! It has lost all it's edge! And just lay's flat. It doesn't even groove!
Now my point & question is.
Is it just my tast that I prefer the bootleg versions? And perhap's other's think the just the opposite. and think the boot's are "unprofessional" and needs "worked up" Or do the Stones, striving for perfection, overproduce these gems, and lost the original "feel"..was it the producer? the studio? etc...
Either way I would cringe to hear some of my favorite and beloved boot tracks remixed and ruin it for me. i.e "Family",
So that leads up to the forthcoming Exile release. We have all heard the outtakes and sessions from the boots. Will the remixes make them fall flat?
Don't do it Hillside Blues!!!
Any thoughts and opionions on this subject I am truly looking forward to!
Will the bonus tracks leave us thinking
"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"
Interesting question. But I beleive the Leslie effect was always there from the beggining as it's on the Beggar's Banquet outtakes boot I have.
Also, I wasn't specifically concentrating on the Metamorphosis album. But their whole career i.e. some excellent examples of the overproduction butchering is just to listen to the Tattoo You outtakes!
"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"
Quote Marhsall Interesting question. But I beleive the Leslie effect was always there from the beggining as it's on the Beggar's Banquet outtakes boot I have.
There's a version with and without, they could simply have taken the with from the meta album.
Althought there is one point in case that doesn't hold up well with my argument. And that's the brown sugar outtakes.. I don't think they hold up well at all against the official recording.. although I must say the one w/ E.C. playing slide at Keef's b-day party is quite interesting. Glad they didn't use it on the official recording.
Though Taylor would have played some slick slide on that!!
"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"
i don't like when they overproduce the vocals. for example it's only rock ans roll. i really like this song but when i hear the videoclip version i think it sounds a hundred times better, the same thing with miss you. when i first heard the jagger-only chorus of mixed emotions on the 25x5 video, i thought "they should have let mick sing the chorus alone". even on get yer ya ya's out there are later-added vocals by keith on nearly every track. i don't know why but i really prefer the jagger-only versions. for example JJF movie vs. yayas......
I agree w/ M.E. Sounds alot better w/ out all the background vocs. But I do feel it works w/ Miss You consdering the type of song it is.
Another point Claudine great unreleased track! Now, if they ever brought it out remixed etc.. I think it would be overproduced and lose all it's edge...
I'm worried the Re-release of Exile will have the same effect to the songs..
"Well my heavy throbbers itchin' just to lay a solid rhythm down"