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Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: September 21, 2009 20:55

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Doxa
One can only IMAGINE what a guitar triumph "Monkey Man" with their 1972/73 condition might have been...

For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

...J.G. Whittier

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: September 21, 2009 21:34

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T&A
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Doxa
One can only IMAGINE what a guitar triumph "Monkey Man" with their 1972/73 condition might have been...

For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

...J.G. Whittier
we are very poetic today ( i was just listening to a dylan xmas teaser pretty cool hearing the bard do santa tunes)

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: September 21, 2009 22:10

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whitem8
Monkey Man fits in perfect with the cast of gin soaked bar women, cracker floridan red necks, hell hounds, basement junkies, three somes, pearl necklaces on large breasts, with coke, serial killer sadomasochist, stale pizza, glorious post junk sun rises that glitter like silver, burning riot infected rape plagued inner cities, with a choir singing to lucifer while he un-plugs the lava lamp and throws it against the wall.

Oh my. Is this an invitation to some kind of party you are throwing? I´m in !

RB

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: slakka ()
Date: September 22, 2009 02:55

Wow, turning out to be a sad thread.

Such an outstanding song neglected.

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: September 22, 2009 04:57

One of their best songs live in a long time. Very faithful to the studio version. Licks even better than Voodoo. Too bad they couldn't do Can't You Hear Me Knocking with the same intensity and interest.

Lisa pulled out all the stops - what stops? I like her but that shit is annoying. Her legs are more interesting than that incessant squealing she does.

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: Crackinup ()
Date: September 22, 2009 05:50

Haven't listened to the Dallas Rehearsal tapes in a while, but I think I remember that Keith wanders into the main riff for a bit while playing around with another song.

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: September 22, 2009 08:36

Yeah crack, that is a cool part of the tape, he really starts nailing it too! Obviously they knew how great it was.

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: September 22, 2009 10:33

I love Monkey Man so much. Glorious description, whitem8.

Question: is there a searchable database on the web of every instance of every Stones song recorded, rehearsed, and performed?

I manually combed through The Complete Works, year by year, to check on the original question.

1969
691028A 28th October - 1st November: Laurel Canyon, California, basement of Stephen Stills’ house. Rehearsals for the upcoming US tour. Incl. songs played on the tour and
- Bad Boy (Eddy Taylor) -31.10.69; unverified
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) -31.10.69; unverified

----> does anyone know whether tapes exist of these jams???


1972
720623A 23rd June: Dallas, Texas, Sumet-Burnet Recording Studio. Tour-rehearsals.
<snip>
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) 2.42 -instrumental


1975
750122B between 22nd January - 9th February: Rotterdam, Holland, De Doelen, Mobile Record Unit. Producer: The Glimmer Twins. Sound engineers: Keith Harwood, Glyn Johns. Rehearsals, recordings and playbacks of already recorded stuff. Additional musicians: Billy Preston (p, org, string synthesizer, bvoc)/Wayne Perkins (gtr)/Robert A. Johnson (gtr; 6.-9.2.)/Jeff Beck (gtr; 6.-9.2.)/Rory Gallagher (gtr; 27.1.; unrecorded)/Mick Ronson (gtr; unconfirmed)
<snip>
- Monkey Man (MJ/KR) -instrumental


1994: next known time played

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<rant>I'm going to admit now that I'm not much of a live Stones person, not the past 20 years, and found the Lisa/Monkey Man shenanigans almost embarrassing. At best her vocals didn't add much. Her strutting onstage like a cat is probably a little more interesting to men than women, and as a woman I was thinking "funny, she doesn't look like a monkey woman, she looks like an emboldened lemur or something." If she and Mick had had some real action, fierce eye-locked mano-a-mano, now that would have been interesting, but to me Mick has always seemed to be slightly intimidated by black women anyway, when they're actually up close and personal, and that's what I saw here - in this video at first there's a little heat, but then it turns into this wholesome girl and her PG13 boyfriend doing a rollicking little rock-a-bye-monkey bop. I mean...this is why I don't care about the Stones anymore live. Mick just isn't animal sexy. He doesn't even leer or sneer anymore. He's completely safe. Someone's dad. Like he doesn't want to offend anyone -- isn't capable of offending anyone. The music is safe. Everything feels clean and ultra bright. Like Disney. Not how I want/need my Stones. Thank goodness for Keith and for old stuff.</rant>

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: September 22, 2009 14:51

WoW! Bad Boy. That would be fantastic to hear:-)

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: JMARKO ()
Date: September 22, 2009 15:34

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swiss

<rant>I'm going to admit now that I'm not much of a live Stones person, not the past 20 years, and found the Lisa/Monkey Man shenanigans almost embarrassing. At best her vocals didn't add much. Her strutting onstage like a cat is probably a little more interesting to men than women, and as a woman I was thinking "funny, she doesn't look like a monkey woman, she looks like an emboldened lemur or something." If she and Mick had had some real action, fierce eye-locked mano-a-mano, now that would have been interesting, but to me Mick has always seemed to be slightly intimidated by black women anyway, when they're actually up close and personal, and that's what I saw here - in this video at first there's a little heat, but then it turns into this wholesome girl and her PG13 boyfriend doing a rollicking little rock-a-bye-monkey bop. I mean...this is why I don't care about the Stones anymore live. Mick just isn't animal sexy. He doesn't even leer or sneer anymore. He's completely safe. Someone's dad. Like he doesn't want to offend anyone -- isn't capable of offending anyone. The music is safe. Everything feels clean and ultra bright. Like Disney. Not how I want/need my Stones. Thank goodness for Keith and for old stuff.</rant>

Well, Mick IS someone's dad.

And if you want their take on "animal-like" find a video of the Washington D.C. 1994 performance of Monkey Man with the ludicrous stilt-walkers. I think that stunt lasted all of two or three shows on the tour.

Keith and Ronnie also slip into the lick when they backed Billy Preston for two songs in 75/76.

Re: Live Monkey Man
Posted by: Four Stone Walls ()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:46

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Silver Dagger
I was at that Kilburn Gaumont 74 show but don't remember them breaking into Monkey Man. Will have to take a look at the DVD tonight.

Mr Dagger,

There were two shows Kilburn. The one I was at they ripped into the riff, (I was up off my seat expecting Jagger to come on!). Can't recall which song they did it on.

So this didn't happen at your show, (the released one)?

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