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Cordoroys - I thought it was Polaroids.
"No Anchovies, Please"
I was thinking the same .Then they had to censored the whole song ...
Will they do the same with the reissue of "girls just wanna get f****d all night
I just dont have that much jam " ???
This sounds worse to me ...
Good thing indeed,especially when some forums (some will know what I mean ...) turn to non sense dialogs and "insults playground ".
Honestman ,as I told you this morning ,the link is corrupt .
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Problem solved!
It is RS which has deleted my link
so now it's on Giga !
HMN
Yeah, but I'm 100% sure they didn't censor it so people would talk about the release. And there IS something like negative publicity.
They even don't know WHERE are the masters.
I hope they will play the new "Star Star" during the next tour..........
Exactly JR
A quick lie from the Stones camp is the easiest way to avoid any extra work or correction time on fixing this major, sloppy mistake - CENSORED VERSIONS ARE NOT THE ORIGINALS. Aww, we all know Mick has always had a bit of that Rod the Mod (Stewart) in him - the music just ain't that important mate - nothing new here.......
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Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
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Date: May 20, 2009 04:14
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bv
Got this from a fan by e-mail. Comments please!
Bjornulf
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Just wondering if Iam the only to notice that Star star has been censored on the 2009 reissue of Goat Head soup.
I qiute annoyed at this considering the fight the Stones had to get the track released. After 30 years this is like tampering with a historical document.
In the song the line "I heard about yor cordorouys, now thats what I call obescne, the tricks with the fruit are kinda cute I bet you keep your p..sy clean".
the last line has been obscured.
I can't believe that the Stones could be aware of this.
Are we to expect future reissues in the 2009 remasters to be censored?
I hope fans take up this issue and the Stones themselves get to hear about it.
Thanks IAN
Cordoroys - I thought it was Polaroids.
"No Anchovies, Please"
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Glam Descendant
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Date: May 20, 2009 04:18
>Cordoroys - I thought it was Polaroids.
It is.
It is.
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
carlostones10
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Date: May 20, 2009 04:39
I talked with guys from Universal Brasil. What they said were they used the original versions released in 1973.
I think bad but were what they talk.
I think bad but were what they talk.
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: May 20, 2009 12:00
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NickB
Yeah on Spotify it's the pussy Mick sings. Surely "giving head to Stve McQueen" is more offensive? Or maybe singing Starfuc*er throughout the song is offensive. Oh well. Nothing like a good mass debate so to speak......
I was thinking the same .Then they had to censored the whole song ...
Will they do the same with the reissue of "girls just wanna get f****d all night
I just dont have that much jam " ???
This sounds worse to me ...
Quote
bv
I can't see anything wrong in avoiding IORR from getting categorized as a porn site. If everybody could post pictures of naked people and unappropriate language then private as well as work site filters would block IORR like they do with any other porn. People have lots of such filters at home as well. Internet is full of crap. I get more than 100 offers for all kinds of medical products to improve my performance every day. They are stopped by my e-mail filters. Without these filters e-mail and the web would be a war zone. I know. The web is my profession...
Good thing indeed,especially when some forums (some will know what I mean ...) turn to non sense dialogs and "insults playground ".
Honestman ,as I told you this morning ,the link is corrupt .
I am a Frenchie ,as Mick affectionately called them in the Old Grey Whistle Test in 1977 .
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: May 20, 2009 13:02
According to Roy Carr's "An illustrated record" Mick wrote to Steve McQueen to secure an undertaking that he wouldn't sue!Quote
NickB
Surely "giving head to Stve McQueen" is more offensive?
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
black limousine
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Date: May 20, 2009 13:24
I read about Star Star censored from remastered version of Goat Head Soup.
It' s simply crazy.
It' s simply crazy.
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Honestman
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Date: May 20, 2009 14:13
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SwayStones
Honestman ,as I told you this morning ,the link is corrupt .
Problem solved!
It is RS which has deleted my link
so now it's on Giga !
HMN
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
mickschix
()
Date: May 20, 2009 17:32
This thread makes me feel special, having had the pleasure of seeing our Boys do " Star, Star" live, using all of the great language it's imfamous for!! I didn't know at the time that I was witnessing a piece of Stones history!! I remember laughing! It actually was a fun song in concert!!
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
isuseneca
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Date: May 20, 2009 18:20
The Stones have reached new lows. This is the final straw for me. Up till now, I bought anything that came out, went to at least 6 shows a tour etc, etc. I'm done with the Stones; any new Stones that is. I'm not paying 500.00 for anymore seats. Screw Mick Jagger, screw Michael Cole, screw Keith for just standing there and posing with the guitar. How difficult is it to be The Rolling Stones anyways? You get paid incredibly well, people kiss your butt all the time and you screw the most loyal fans by reissuing this garbage? The Stones could have done so much with this opportunity, but failed once again...nothing new I suppose. Oh, the once Greatest Rock 'n Roll band, is now the Greatest Cut n Run band----steal your money right from under your nose. I would Jaggger would just retire or die; either or.
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Rip This
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Date: May 20, 2009 18:43
.....glad you could get that off your chest.
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Stargroves
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Date: May 20, 2009 19:34
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Glam Descendant
>Cordoroys - I thought it was Polaroids.
Obscene corduroys...
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Beelyboy
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Date: May 20, 2009 21:08
so glad to see very nice manners finally put into rock and roll. i complete support the censored versions. I also am a little offended by the "heaven" reference in dylan's 'knocking on heaven's door' as i don't like judeo-christian religion iconographic references forced upon me in a secular community, and tho the song is nice, a similar silence should occur...oh they should still air it of course...knock knock knocking on (echoes and beeps) door...knock knock knocking on
@#$%& is one of their best most elegantly wasted humorously cynical response to being adopted by 'high culture' at the time...it's wonderful street and dark and light ...the live versions in '78 are amongst the most historically powerful rock and roll ever recorded live...the lyrics are tantamount to the experience. annd in my personal life i don't usually cuss but this is motherfucking rock and roll
@#$%& is one of their best most elegantly wasted humorously cynical response to being adopted by 'high culture' at the time...it's wonderful street and dark and light ...the live versions in '78 are amongst the most historically powerful rock and roll ever recorded live...the lyrics are tantamount to the experience. annd in my personal life i don't usually cuss but this is motherfucking rock and roll
Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
carlostones10
()
Date: May 20, 2009 20:52
The Universal Muscic sent me an official note about the Star Star censured version released in the Goats Head Soup remaster.
The note:
This 'double-tracking' effect on the voices at "Star Star" was in fact an attempt at censoring the word 'pussy' on the UK version of the album back in the 70s, apparently. But it's an effect the band made, and we flagged this but they wanted to keep it!
www.stonesplanetbrazil.blogspot.com
The note:
This 'double-tracking' effect on the voices at "Star Star" was in fact an attempt at censoring the word 'pussy' on the UK version of the album back in the 70s, apparently. But it's an effect the band made, and we flagged this but they wanted to keep it!
www.stonesplanetbrazil.blogspot.com
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
loog droog
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Date: May 20, 2009 20:55
It was on the original 1973 US version.
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
Lorenz
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Date: May 20, 2009 21:02
anyway, the important piece of information here is they wanted to keep it!
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
ghostryder13
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:14
that may be true, they should of had both versions on the cd and let the fans decide which one the want to hear
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
JK
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Date: May 20, 2009 21:15
Well now the new cd is a must for many collectors. On the other hand the value of the vinyl version is bit less now. Anyway in a way they have now "opened the vaults"... or a "vault" :-)
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
HighwireC
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Date: May 20, 2009 21:23
As I've told you: It's not UMC (or CBS, Virgin etc in former days), it's The Rolling Stones who decides everything that has been, is and will be released ...
BTW they do right, the effects: All fans are discussing about The Rolling Stones, hate them or love them, it's the first step of the upcoming new campaign ...
BTW they do right, the effects: All fans are discussing about The Rolling Stones, hate them or love them, it's the first step of the upcoming new campaign ...
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
Lorenz
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:27
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HighwireC
As I've told you: It's not UMC (or CBS, Virgin etc in former days), it's The Rolling Stones who decides everything that has been, is and will be released ...
BTW they do right, the effects: All fans are discussing about The Rolling Stones, hate them or love them, it's the first step of the upcoming new campaign ...
Yeah, but I'm 100% sure they didn't censor it so people would talk about the release. And there IS something like negative publicity.
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
T&A
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Date: May 20, 2009 21:31
it was the stones' idea, right. not even sure anybody's told the stones about the umg releases....
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
stone-relics
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:38
What a load of garbage...they dont even know which master tape they used....
Its hard to believe that a professional organization allows that to happen. I hope you emailed them back and told them it was the US LP version....
Thanks for the note, though...
JR
Its hard to believe that a professional organization allows that to happen. I hope you emailed them back and told them it was the US LP version....
Thanks for the note, though...
JR
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
Haristone
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:46
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T&A
it was the stones' idea, right. not even sure anybody's told the stones about the umg releases....
They even don't know WHERE are the masters.
I hope they will play the new "Star Star" during the next tour..........
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
T&A
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:50
on the 2010 UMG REMASTERS AND CENSORED TOUR - be there and be square
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: May 20, 2009 21:57
I had this crap on an old 8-track. Was so pleased to hear the "uncensored" version when I bought the CD. Now we're back to the future again?
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
HelterSkelter
()
Date: May 20, 2009 22:23
Quote
stone-relics
What a load of garbage...they dont even know which master tape they used....
Its hard to believe that a professional organization allows that to happen. I hope you emailed them back and told them it was the US LP version....
Thanks for the note, though...
JR
Exactly JR
A quick lie from the Stones camp is the easiest way to avoid any extra work or correction time on fixing this major, sloppy mistake - CENSORED VERSIONS ARE NOT THE ORIGINALS. Aww, we all know Mick has always had a bit of that Rod the Mod (Stewart) in him - the music just ain't that important mate - nothing new here.......
Re: Universal Official note about the Star Star censured version
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:42
Total crap.
UMG needs to quit NOW.
UMG needs to quit NOW.
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Macman15
()
Date: May 20, 2009 23:52
apparently the file has also been deleted from giga...
Is there a kind soul who can send me the vinyl mp3?
Thank you in advance!!
Im among the ones here who will likely NOT purchase the reissues either despite being a completist!! Well maybe will purchase GHS to feed the completist disease but I feel I am supporting censorship in doing so!!
Such a dilemma, "WHAT TO DOOOOOOOO OOOOH" !!!
Is there a kind soul who can send me the vinyl mp3?
Thank you in advance!!
Im among the ones here who will likely NOT purchase the reissues either despite being a completist!! Well maybe will purchase GHS to feed the completist disease but I feel I am supporting censorship in doing so!!
Such a dilemma, "WHAT TO DOOOOOOOO OOOOH" !!!
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
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Date: May 20, 2009 23:58
I grew up with the censored "Star Star", as I used to listen to GHS on vinyl on the library....about 10 years old. Strangely enough I didn't get to "own" the censored version before starting to collect vinyls a few years ago. Was it the Canadian or the American LP that had the censorship?
It's certainly a more annoying than interesting listen. I think the "Starfuck"-refrain also sounds different from the "real" version....there's added echo on the word "F---", makes it hard to hear what Jagger is saying; unless it's just a trick of my mind...I mostly listen to the UK or Japanese vinyl anyway
It's certainly a more annoying than interesting listen. I think the "Starfuck"-refrain also sounds different from the "real" version....there's added echo on the word "F---", makes it hard to hear what Jagger is saying; unless it's just a trick of my mind...I mostly listen to the UK or Japanese vinyl anyway
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: May 21, 2009 00:08
Quote
Macman15
apparently the file has also been deleted from giga...
Is there a kind soul who can send me the vinyl mp3?
Check your inbox!
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Star Star censored on 2009 remaster
Posted by:
Macman15
()
Date: May 21, 2009 00:12
Yes Deltics, this is VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!!! Thank you!!!
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