I thought that I understood KR's name variance to be a concoction of ALO or something... Something about sounding more like Cliff Richard...

But I was just looking at the labels of some of my 45's...The switch from "Richard" back to "Richards" seems to correspond approximately that time... to their parting from Oldham. See Honky Tonk Women and Street Fighting Man, below.

Look at the labels of Brown Sugar and Angie. Back to "Richard".
Why do you think that is? A misprint?

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it was richards before it was richard before it was richards.

I think it was 1978 that he started going by Richards, although on LYL it's Richards. At least as far as original releases go.

Who knows. It is funny though.

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it was richards before it was richard before it was richards.

I realize that is how it supposedly goes.
But they printed "Richard" on BS and Angie AFTER he changed it:

Richards >>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>> Richards >>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>> Richards
(Family name)       (Satisfation)      (Honky Tonk)        (Brown Sugar)      (Shattered)

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I think it was 1978 that he started going by Richards, although on LYL it's Richards. At least as far as original releases go.

HTW is 1969 (I think) and it reads "Richards"

Oops. Forgot that he did have it with the s in the 1960s.

Yet all the ABKCO ones I have say Richard.

the story I heard for years was that he cut the S from his name because he was estranged from his father. I heard the Cliff Richard thing later. Maybe he just wanted to forge his own identity. I am sad enough to actually find these things interesting!

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it was richards before it was richard before it was richards.

I realize that is how it supposedly goes.
But they printed "Richard" on BS and Angie AFTER he changed it:

Richards >>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>> Richards >>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>> Richards
(Family name)       (Satisfation)      (Honky Tonk)        (Brown Sugar)      (Shattered)

ah. it was richards before it was richard before it was richards before it was richard. i missed a verse.

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I still just call him Keith .......



ROCKMAN

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I still just call him Keith .......

Does he answer?

He has......



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He has......

That does make sense.

with sssoul and I had it out on this subject about a year ago, and I'm sure she knows more than I concerning Keith.

Apparently, the "s" has been there from the beginning.

smile: we "had it out"? hope i wasn't too rough :E

yes the S has always been there in the sense that his legal name has always been Richards.
and even in the period when he was using the s-less version as a stage-and-pen-name,
you can find examples of him using the S in autographs; and of course the S turned up whenever he was busted
(since legal names are what courts use, i mean). i can't explain schillid's record labels, though -
if any of those singles he's posted were actually reissues from the late 70s i suppose he'd know that,
so the only other theory i have is: typos happen



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I noticed in Bill Wyman's book all the singles from the 1960s up to 1978 say Richard.

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i can't explain schillid's record labels, though -
if any of those singles he's posted were actually reissues from the late 70s i suppose he'd know that,

All are original issue

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typos happen

That's what I think. Thanks

Keith said he lost the 'S' on the road!

Notice how the post Oldham London releases start to say "manufactured by Nanker Phelge Music Ltd - An ABKCO Record company.
(Mr Klein tightening his grip).

His real name is Richard Keith. While in school the headmaster was calling the roll, last name, first name. He call Keith, Richard and it became that way ever since.

I thought is real name was also Michael Jagger.

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What about the name Keef Riffhard??

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What about the name Keef Riffhard??

haha, thats what i just wanted to ask!
but isnt it keef riffs hard? ;-)

There are way more songs credited to Jagger/Richard than Richards. So based on the singles in Rolling With The Stones it was Richard until 1978. That's a lot of typos if you really think that.

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I thought that I understood KR's name variance to be a concoction of ALO or something... Something about sounding more like Cliff Richard...

But I was just looking at the labels of some of my 45's...The switch from "Richard" back to "Richards" seems to correspond approximately that time... to their parting from Oldham. See Honky Tonk Women and Street Fighting Man, below.

Look at the labels of Brown Sugar and Angie. Back to "Richard".
Why do you think that is? A misprint?

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Which is it?

A while ago I've scanned BEST a french rock magazine from the 70's where Keith explain his version if you wanna take a look it's here, at the top of the page

IORR

HMN



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I have an observation which I'm not sure is entirely on topic. The London 45's are all quite dirty, while the RSR 45s are cleaner.

Do you think that could be related to the variation in the Richard/Richards surname?

Never trust anyone with two first names.