Sounds like an old fart is giving lessons how to act like an old fart. - Doxa
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Quotesherer I think if the stones camp even looked at this site then the buy sell trade section would have been gone long ago I'm not quite sure about it. I have a feeling that there is some kind wordless policy how they deal with 'die hard fans' and the other fans (the big audience): The Stones don't mind what the die-hards are doing (sharing the bootlegs, etc.), but the pr
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Quoteretired_dogQuotemofur It's a pity that this fact overshadows the potential qualities of Shine A Light a bit. It's possible that it is a good album. Who knows? Let's wait and see (hear)! Yeah, that's true. And I'd love to be proven wrong if I don't expect anything special, but the album turns out be a total killer (matching more YA-YA'S than NO SECURITY)
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QuoteMTFanQuoteablett"I have my doubts about the Rollling Stones musical standard since their last live tour in 1973, and in the studio after Black & Blue,when Ron Wood became a fultime member. He could have replaced Keith Richards,but Mick Taylor?" Superb stuff. It's like being in your own world...... bless those 'Taylorites' (resembles some sort of sad star t
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QuoteBeelyboyThis is the US release of 'buttons' below... i realize the UK version did not have ltsnt or rt, but had 'back street girl' and 'please go home' I quite disagree with shott about between the buttons being 'muddled' i have always thought of this as an absolutely spectacular album, regardless of the UK or US release playlist... wow just spec
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QuotesluissieQuoteDoxaHmm... there is another thread where the 'Stones-freaks' are distinguished from 'Stones-fans'. I guess we could reformulate the distinction again between those who are excited of this new release and those who are not... - Doxa Doxa, how do you see this? The fans are, the freaks are not? ;-) Jelle I guess the only solution is: - Doxa
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QuotemofurQuoteDoxa Of course it will not mean that the Stones are not going to do any new albums, but like it is said in the article what is the prime intestest of the record companies is their back catalog. It was an important part of negotiations in 1993, surely, but it looks to be the only substance worth of negotiation now. - Doxa I do not agree. We've had this discussion on this bo
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Hmm... there is another thread where the 'Stones-freaks' are distinguished from 'Stones-fans'. I guess we could reformulate the distinction again between those who are excited of this new release and those who are not... - Doxa
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QuoteTheif in the NightThe back catalog is always going to be a big part of these types of negotiations (as it was in 1993) but,that does not mean they will never cut another studio album. Of course it will not mean that the Stones are not going to do any new albums, but like it is said in the article what is the prime intestest of the record companies is their back catalog. It was an importa
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This story confirms a bit the speculation in the other thread about what the Stones really are after now is a nice home for their back catalog. That is worth of invest and interest of the record companies, not the possible new records The Stones still might do. That's the state of the affairs of their career now. - Doxa
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QuoteEdward TwiningI think Doxa is spot on - that's precisely the way i feel. Hardcore fans may try to find something to get excited about, yet the Stones live releases post 1989 have been by and large meaningless. None of the later versions of the older songs have any real musical resonance, unlike their 60s/70s output except the occasional novelty of hearing a little played song at odd tim
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QuotekeesCannot imagine even a 'hard core fan' needs the war horses on the release again. And I have my doubts if musically the Stones are up to an acceptable standard to play the few 'rare' songs which were played thorese two gigs . That's the problem with Stones live albums since FLASHPOINT. No one really does need one more album of their war horses, because th
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Quotewith sssoul>> they cannot do that anymore if they don't have a deal with the band, right? << right - but EMI does have a deal with the band, which runs apparently until may, and the non-ABKCO back catalogue is certainly part of that. they re-released the whole thing in that "national" edition in 2005, for example - same disks repackaged in a slipcover sort
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Hmm.. this 5-year-deal of which the band get estimated 14 million pounds, makes me wonder of what does it actually based on. During that period (2003-2008) they have only released two original products LIVE LICKS and A BIGGER A BANG. Then there are RARITIES, a reissue of ROLLED GOLD, and I can't recall if a re-issue of JUMP BACK was released in that time-frame. Do I miss something? Have ther
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QuoteJumpingKentFlashThey probably are. I had no idea that The Stones make 3 million quid for EMI each year. That's a lot seeing as they don't put out a lot of material. Well, economically speaking, they should earn something like that. For five years they pay the Stones 14 million, and get 3 per year, that is, 15 millions... Well, I guess, the actual business is not that simple math
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In some other thread some people are playing with semantics that it is not 'just another live record' but a 'soundtrack' which is completely a different thing... Some are living in hope that Universal might release it in a nicer package, and maybe even promote it better, and thereby, we will have a more profile Stones product in our hands. But as far as I am concerned we w
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Elton... the man who refuses leave the stage... - Doxa
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QuoteJumpingKentFlashBTW: EMI denies the split. Hmm... I guess the 'aggressive offer' is to be expected by EMI. Perhaps at this moment when people liek Macca are running out of them, and they are getting bad publicity, EMI will do anything to keep the Stones. Jagger & co are making a big money out of this. - Doxa
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Maybe I don't grasp something, but what I got is quite different picture of what Johns says about Keith's criticism of Taylor. Namely, it is not the question of him PLAYING loud while recording, but his involvment in the mixing. There he ends up mixing his guitar too loud, and that's what Keith complains. I can see it in the way that Taylor does not understand the idea of getting t
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QuoteBraincapersIs this really about a live album? It's a message to EMI and other record companies that their back catalogue is for sale. Who 'owns' the 60's Stones is that Universal? Imagine a proper reissue of every album on one label all remastered properly with bonus tracks. Oh well tis nice to dream. I think also that the real deal is about the back catalogue - t
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QuotegeorgelicksMore details here: January 17, 2008 Mick Jagger loses satisfaction with EMI Dan Sabbagh: Media Editor Sir Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones are preparing to follow Sir Paul McCartney and Radiohead and abandon EMI, the crisis-stricken British record label. Hmm... the 'sirs' are running nice bands: "Sir Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones"; &qu
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Thanks, guys! Heading for the plane now. - Doxa
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Quotewith sssoul... didn't we just have a thread criticizing Don Was for saying the same thing? i protest. You are so romantic, dear - Doxa
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Yeah, the continous demand for the complilations - and nostalgy - is incredible, and The Stones seem to get their share of it. But I think that is nothing to compared to the Beatles and Elvis demand; every few years, released nicely prior Christmas, there is another number one album providing the same old set of greatest hits in a different package. But I was thinking what Gazza mentioned. I
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QuotetherollingmanuQuotelmatth8461Not too much in terms of rare records there's one stall which is open 7 days a week, they got plenty of stones bootlegs, but they're pretty expensive. You mean that the place is situated in Camden Lock Market? I shall only have time from tuesday to thursday, so I won't make the weekend market (that's why I am skeptical about The Camden).
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I think that a long ago there were some old farts who might have said exactly the same about Keith, The Stones and the whole 60's rock music scene, and smiling when Brian, Jimi, Jim, Janis etc. were dropping..."Carry on boys"... - Doxa
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I'm traveling to London next week, and I'd like to kindly ask some tips: (1) where to find bootl.. 'rare' records? (2) good second hand book shops (especially on history and philosophy)? Any tips would help. Sorry wasting your time. - Doxa
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It is no wonder that these 'best of' records seem to sell so nicely, namely the band seems to do their part of promotion by playing those songs every night... - Doxa
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QuoteLOGIETops. Exactly! I think that in that song Jagger shows almost all the strenghts and rich nuances of his voice. I especially like the natural way he is making duets with himself. There are hints of that in "Laugh I neraly died", but I think the result sounds more forced.. The whole slow 'flip side' of TATTOO YOU is really a Jagger show (starting from gay-high-oct
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Quotebassplayer617Classic Gigs II: The Toronto Rehearsals 2002. More rarities, such as a try at "Torn and Frayed". This is also preserved on bootleg. Note: I started this to demonstrate that the Stones aren't afraid to play rare songs in front of an audience. I think it more like demonstrated the opposite: the Stones are afraid of playing rare songs in front of (real) audie
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