Interesting that you say that. I was driving the other day listening to something similar when "Let Me Down Slow" from A Bigger Bang came on and I had almost the exact opposite reaction. I honestly thought a high school garage band down the street could something this bad. The lyrics were forced and sophomoric. The singing was uninspired and the music was the best part of the song a
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They would never have had some nobody walk in front of them unless it was a teaser. That is unequivocally Mick in Jan/Feb 1981 whenever they did the filming Italy
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I thinks it’s the same girl who was on the poster and on the billboards at the time. No idea who that was
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I don't remember if this was posted here. Better watch it now before YouTube deletes it
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I agree with that. Most of the problems with the tour as it evolved can be place at the feet of Mick
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Quotesaltoftheearth Turning back to the thread I must say that I learned a lot. I Always thought the 1975 tour to be mediocre, to say the least. But now I listened to the first concerts of the tour, and they are really very good. For instance, they could have released a double album of the Boston shows, selecting the best version of each song from both Shows. Later on, it deteriorated, mainly b
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QuotePaul Kersey The Toronto 17th June show is an outstanding performance and in great audio quality on bootleg. Absolutely. The Toronto show is outstanding. High energy and great performance with Mick being at the top of his game which could rarely be said about him later in the tour. The show was obviously recorded. Too bad the rest of the show (besides the bootleg) hasn't seen the l
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Quoteryanpow There has to be a point? Oh, sh*t. Not really. Just a question!!!
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The whole point of this thread is the discussion about the changing feel and performance of the '75 tour as it evolved from one of energy and excitement to lazy and sloppy. I would love for everyone to go listen to It's Only Rock and Roll and Fingerprint file on LYL both from June 17th in Toronto then listen to them on the LA Friday Vault release and see what the hell happened. Lots
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Gimme Shelter and Brown Sugar are perfect examples of where Billy Preston proves to be a horrific addition to the band. In ‘73 he’s in the background and does nothing ridiculous. In ‘75 he just adds silly, childish noises that are a huge distraction. I just think the tour went a little off the rails
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I remember years ago reading in the “Encyclopedia of Rock” from the late 70’s describing Mick’s performance in ‘75 as a “parody of himself”. I think that’s a sad but accurate description of his stage performance
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Quotecimaz In 1975 and 1976 the Stones went into some kind of useless Barnum on stage. Even if some shows of this era (NY and LA but not all of them) are still a pleasure to listen to. After The 1973 european Tour you had to wait until the 1978 US tour before they went back to something shorter, raw and essential. This is absolutely right. I think the tour started out as being about the music.
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I agree with the Ollie Brown percussion nonsense. It's totally unnecessary and I think sometimes it's a distraction for Charlie. Was he just there to be Billy Preston's companion for the tour. IFor that matter Billy Preston becomes more a musical liability as well. In 1973 I think he was more professional and played more to the Stones needs and can even be an interesting change
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The entire June 17th Toronto show was great and it was only 11 nights into the tour. Other than NYC I'm not overly familiar with the mid tour shows before the LA shows. When did things change? Mick was clearly not himself later on singing stupid lyrics like "don't want no Jews hanging round" on Tumbling Dice and just sloppy uninteresting singing. Maybe his drug of choice w
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My opinion of the 1975 Tour is largely one of great promise that turned to failure. When the tour started in Baton Rouge they were energetic and carried on a performance that rivaled their 1973 tour (with early show mistakes). The songs were high octane. Mick sang well and the band was playing hard and fast. This carried on early in the tour as you can hear in the songs from Toronto in mid Ju
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Wow, that's shocking to me. If an alien landed in my yard and asked me to play 5 songs to define the Stones, Honky Tonk Women would certainly be one of them!!!!
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‘73 Brussels from Nasty Songs/Bedspring Symphony/KBFH hands down. The tempo is perfect. Mick Taylor’s guitar filler is his typical flawless and subtle. Keith’s opening guitar and his solo break (even the little feedback). The horn section never sounded better. Mick’s vocals are energetic and not sloppy life in ‘75. Keith also does the best job he ever did on backing vocals. Makes me wonder why th
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Let It Rock from Leeds '71 is a solid a rocker as the Stones ever played live. The Stones could almost out-Chuck Chuck!!!!
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The Stones at their best have absolutely no need for overdubs. Leave that to studio recordings that you can layer, replace or eliminate parts as you see fit. Live recordings are just that, live and imperfect. The shows from '69-'73 could not be any better. The '71 tour shows are the best example of their skills as live musicians with spontaneity and energy that they show during
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I'm just referring to Keith's voice. He sings considerably better than the other Texas shows, The Philadelphia shows and Pittsburgh. I almost wonder if the whole performance of Happy is a studio rehearsal of the song that maybe they pasted into L&G because the audience sounds like an addition to the song more so than the rest of the movie. Just an observation which may be comple
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Keith's singing seems to be at a level that he never reached on any of the other versions of Happy during the '72 tour. For example the outtake version from one of the other Texas shows is much more similar to all of the other versions vocally. It's not as obvious to me as Happy on LYL. I'm not certain that it is a vocal overdub but it's just sonically so much better t
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I think the overdubs in L&G are limited to Happy. There may be others. As far as GYYYO I think the main issue is that they are just unnecessary. It's a live show. Why fake it? They are tasteful as opposed to many of them on LYL
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The overdubs on the "Keep Your Motor Running" boot are terrible. They are so obvious and poorly done. I can't imagine those were anything other than raw early efforts that were not seriously considered for release. The overdubs on GYYYO and LYL are more polished but are still often awful (Happy and Keith adding backing for Tumbling Dice!!!)
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I don't quite understand the "public domain" issue. After 50 years what does it matter if the recordings are still in a vault somewhere and no one can get their hands on the recording anyway. We still won't have a 1972 release in January 2023 if the Stones don't want us to have it
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It's interesting to try to evaluate what is going on regarding the filming. It seems to be from the original 16mm film that looks like it is being shown on a projector screen which is then being filmed in order to make a copy for YouTube, etc. I don't think it could be from an 8mm/super8mm handheld camera because the amount of film is likely too long for that as well as the focusing m
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I don't know what the music that is playing for L&G but the intro before the New York shows was 2000 Light Years From Home at least that's what is playing before Brown Sugar on the Dick Cavett broadcast. I don't if that was played before any other shows
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I would think there must exist a 16 track recording from each of the 4 shows that were recorded for L&G. Any reason why they wouldn’t exist?
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It has always interested me why the sound of L&G is so bad relative to what the Stones should have released in a concert film. Strangely the Rolling Stone magazine review from 1974 (above) states that "the sound is both good and loud". I also remember seeing the movie and thinking the sound was good. Now the sound is lousy. I wonder if when the film was made and played as in
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I remember thinking there were some interesting clips back when it came out. Now all of those videos are available. I believe the '69 stuff is Ed Sullivan. Nothing from '73. '76 is from the Hey Negrita promo
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