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Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: November 20, 2014 18:20

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Rank Stranger

By the way, at the Essen shows, bootleggers were selling the "Live In London" lp from Wembley 1973.

Wow ! Thanks, I knew it was released before december 1973, but october 1973 !!! Thanks again.

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: November 20, 2014 18:34

We're talking about this boot, right?

[www.dbboots.com]

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: November 20, 2014 19:03

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Rank Stranger
We're talking about this boot, right?

[www.dbboots.com]

Yes ! with RS 2001-A/B matrix !

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: November 20, 2014 19:29

Of course!
I remember the matrix quite vividly!cool smiley

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: silkcut1978_ ()
Date: November 20, 2014 20:30

@rankstranger: got my JC around 1977, as 'new' release. fantastic, have you boughg live in london in essen?

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: November 20, 2014 21:35

To be honest, I don't remember!
I might have bought it there, or at the Bochum university,
lots of boots on sale there in the canteen - those were the days!

The reason I remember the bootleg-selling in front of the Gruga is because on our
way out after the show a friend of mine in one of his brightest moments asked
one of the sellers:

"Is this already from tonight's show?" eye rolling smiley

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: November 20, 2014 23:04

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Rank Stranger
To be honest, I don't remember!
I might have bought it there, or at the Bochum university,
lots of boots on sale there in the canteen - those were the days!

The reason I remember the bootleg-selling in front of the Gruga is because on our
way out after the show a friend of mine in one of his brightest moments asked
one of the sellers:

"Is this already from tonight's show?" eye rolling smiley

...Well that could easily happen today...and as far as I know some bands like The Who have sold their live concerts that way.

Re: The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie
Posted by: dph ()
Date: November 21, 2014 01:53

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LiveAtHidepark
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dph
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LiveAtHidepark
German LP "The Stars In The Sky They Never Lie" is the ORIGINAL release.

TAKRL "Jean-Clarke" is a COPY of the above LP with 2 additional tracks.
It exists as "Memorial" & "Mammorial" with sleeve variations.

Actually you have it backwards. "Jean-Clarke" on the TAKRL (US) label is the original release. "The Stars" on the Caution (German) label is a copy dubbed from the TAKRL vinyl. Caution boosted the bass which is lacking on the TAKRL version, and deleted the "bonus tracks."

I have a Stones fanzine dated april/may 1974 with a review about "stars" and the same fanzine made a review of "jean-clarke" 6 (six) month later, stating "jean-clarke" was a copy of "stars".
Maybe you are right (?). So if you have more informations about these LP's, I'd be grateful.

All I can say is based on my first hand knowledge, based on my own test. Years ago, I had both LPs. I only wanted the original, not the copy. I listened to each very carefully and discovered that there was more applause at the end of "Jean Clarke" before one of the MJ interviews than there was on "The Stars." It was only a second or two but since it was on one but not the other, the one that had it was the original, and the copy was faded out slightly earlier. I no longer have the records or a turntable so I have to go by memory here. If anyone has the records nowadays I'd be interested in their test results.

Assuming you guys are non-US, it probably took quite a while for "Jean Clarke" to arrive to you or any fanzine for review.

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: November 21, 2014 17:20

dph,

I made a quick listen to both LP's this morning, it seems the fade out is exactly the same. If there is a difference, it is not 1 or 2 seconds, but 1/10 or 1/5 of a second. I try again this week-end.

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: dph ()
Date: November 22, 2014 02:14

Interesting. Thanks for checking. Edit: I should add that my LP of "The Stars..." was the 1980s reissue. Possibly the 1970s originals were different; I never had one.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-11-22 16:43 by dph.

Re: Question about boot, The stars in the sky they never die
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: March 19, 2015 22:05

Just stumbled over this clip ( thanks to HisMajesty! ); you can see
that the "Stars In The Sky" must have been out by July 74.
The sent Jagger a copy for his birthday!
The article is from NME August 10th, 1974.

The question remains: Would they do it, if it was just a copy?






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-19 22:06 by Rank Stranger.

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