I have a question about my Spanish LP version of Sticky Fingers...the one with the different cover and "Let It Rock."

The first version I ever saw, a friend of mine had it in the late '70s or early '80s. His was definitely the original pressing or close to it.

Then, in around the mid-1990s, I finally tracked down my own copy from an online record seller. It looks the same, but the printing is not as good, the cover is not as glossy and the cardboard sleeve is not as thick. Frankly it looks to me almost like it might be a bootleg or pirate edition, or at the very least a much later pressing. The overall quality of the artwork and color printing is definitely not as good as the first one I saw.

Now I see colored vinyl versions on Ebay, that are obviously more recent pressings than what I have.

I was wondering if someone here could give some information about the different editions of Spanish Sticky Fingers, and the value of each. Are there fakes/pirates of this around? Or did the Spanish pressings just get shoddy after a time, and that's what I have?

Also, if I decide to sell my copy, how should I identify it so that the buyer (and myself) will know which version/pressing I am selling. I wouldn't want to say something was original if it wasn't, or say it was the "real" Spanish Sticky Fingers if it's a fake or a non-valuable pressing. Is there a place I can find this kind of info?

Thanks.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-09-08 12:16 by UrbanSteel.

Yes there's a new orange Spanish Sticky Fingers pressing....I believe it's an official release - not an unauthorized one. At least they're selling it all over Europe - in vinyl shops....shops that don't sell bootlegs.
It's not valuable though, just a nice item.

I have the original 1971 version in mint condition and I paid just over £100 for it on Ebay. It was the first one I had found in about a year of searching.

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Erik_Snow
Yes there's a new orange Spanish Sticky Fingers pressing....I believe it's an official release - not an unauthorized one. At least they're selling it all over Europe - in vinyl shops....shops that don't sell bootlegs.
It's not valuable though, just a nice item.

The colored ones don't even include Let It Rock.

Mine is green and looks like a very cheap copy. Huge disappointment when I got it.

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Guðni Gunnarsson
The colored ones don't even include Let It Rock.
Mine is green and looks like a very cheap copy. Huge disappointment when I got it.

But this is a brand new orange authorized pressing, not those old counterfeit releases, Guðni
Haven't bought it (yet), but it does list Let It Rock on the cover....so I'm not saying that I'm certain of it's quality nor features



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-23 23:09 by Erik_Snow.

Those color vinyl editions are definately counterfeit / pirate copies. RSR would be putting those out. There isn't even a Rolling Stones Records anymore.

JR

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Those color vinyl editions are definately counterfeit / pirate copies. RSR would be putting those out. There isn't even a Rolling Stones Records anymore.
JR

Thanks John, I presumed there was some kind of exception for the Spanish release; I'd never trust a coloured new pressing of a "standard RSR release" - but I take your word for it being a pirate copy.
Maybe I'll demand getting this record for free in these shops nearby...or else blow the whistle of them selling pirate records..he he



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The colored ones don't even include Let It Rock.
Mine is green and looks like a very cheap copy. Huge disappointment when I got it.

But this is a brand new orange authorized pressing, not those old counterfeit releases, Guðni
Haven't bought it (yet), but it does list Let It Rock on the cover....so I'm not saying that I'm certain of it's quality nor features

I understand... mine is also brand new, probably the same you're talking about so I believe they made it in few colors. It lists Let It Rock on label but it plays Sister Morphine. Seems to be copy of the 1980 release.

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I understand... mine is also brand new, probably the same you're talking about so I believe they made it in few colors. It lists Let It Rock on label but it plays Sister Morphine. Seems to be copy of the 1980 release.

Aha! Thanks for the info Guðni, I'm glad I didn't buy it. Costs 45 dollars here in old Norway.

UrbanSteel info is correct: you must check the cat. number. The original HRSS591-01 is not easy to find in mint conditions.

Also as reported earlier, the pirate copies on coloured vinyl do say Let it Rock on the cover, but it's not on the record. It's just been manufactured from a bog standard issue.

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I understand... mine is also brand new, probably the same you're talking about so I believe they made it in few colors. It lists Let It Rock on label but it plays Sister Morphine. Seems to be copy of the 1980 release.

Aha! Thanks for the info Guðni, I'm glad I didn't buy it. Costs 45 dollars here in old Norway.

Wow, that's crazy!

I paid about 15 bucks and felt I was ripped off!

Be VERY careful when spending money on these new "supect" vinyls. The Germans have been VERY busy counterfeiting all kinds of releases, including many of the old German and Austrian fan club releases. ALWAYS check matrix numbers. Most of them have shoddily writen or NO matrices at all.

JR

There has been a lot of these on e-bay recently, going for silly prices. They are also available on the HMV Japan website - for about £14/15 if I remember rightly. Still a rip-off though!

I 100% agree with John; recently I saw people paying lot of money for counterfeits Promotional Album, Necrophilia, not to mention the recent Honky tonk womAn UK single.


I suggest, if you are not confident, to ask here on IORR or send to us private messages. Even to experienced collectors, sometimes, happens to be cheated or, anyway, to pay more than the real value.

Here some recommendations:

Bear in mind that there are no multicoloured original RS vinyls issued before the eighties, apart some singles from Greece and an impossible to find Let it bleed (am I correct John?).

Be careful with all the first-era German singles as many sleeves are high quality photocopies but look originals on the eBay images.

Pay top rate attention to the German 10 inches Beat, Beat,Beat and all the Club serie, because, as John explained, it is only the matrix number the proves that it's original.

In many discographies, like the French one, the date of pressing is printed on the backcover; check it, because the're differences in value between the first pressing and a re-edition of the same record.

And, finally, a vinyl which is below the "good" conditions, is worth zero. Always ask about the quality of vinyl and cover, and test it at arrival before leaving positive feedbacks.

I own a legit 1980 release and it for sure features "Let It Rock". Unfortunately it comes WITHOUT an insert, which I do believe was originally included on the Spanish re-release (can some fellow collector confirm?).

Handova, the original HRSS 591-01 was manufactured in 1971; on the label is written that is "Fabricado por Hispavox - madrid". I never saw it with insert (but on this, I can be wrong". Let it rock appears as track number 4 and, very amazing, track number 3 is 30 seconds mute indicated on the labe with : 3..... 0'30.

The reissue 10C 068 063616 was manufactured in 1980 . The song Let it rock is included as Number 3 and there 's not the track 30 seconds mute.
There's an insert - one side only with the big red tongue , all written in spanish and catalogue number on top right. This record was manufactured in Polig Industrias Barcelona.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-24 17:12 by straycat58.

Just to complete:

there are two exisiting versions of the original HRSS 591-01, one with the Sticky fingers graphic label and one with a plain label.

An then there's the spanish Trousers version 10C 066-063.152, with Sister morphine, no Let it rock.

My version is HRSS 591-01, "Let It Rock" is track four AND there's an insert!
Spanish Sticky Fingers graphic label.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-09-08 12:15 by UrbanSteel.

thank U all. I know some trivia myself as I'm Spanish, matter of fact I must have bought the 1980 re-release that very same year. Note that it's funny that it was re-released five years after the Spanish censorship ended, a bit of a non-sense. In fact, fans in general avoided this goodie as the plague back then, being the original album/artwork with zipper sought after. "Sister Morphine" was some kind of an over-rated myth back then in poor old Spain.

Rankstranger... so I miss the insert in the original edition !!.
Is it similar to the one posted by UrbanSteel with different catalogue number and Let it rock number 4?

Handova, puedes ayudarme a buscar unos discos espanoles que me faltan?

I'm stll looking for Beggars Banquet , orange label with black writings and I must replace the vinyl of the Big Hits (High tide), orange label, black writings (because my vinyl is in fair conditions) .

In case, please contact me at elmo.lewis@yahoo.it

straycat58, I'll have a look for you

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Rankstranger... so I miss the insert in the original edition !!.
Is it similar to the one posted by UrbanSteel with different catalogue number and Let it rock number 4?

straycat58 I cannot upload it here, but you've got mail!

Here are some scans of my version which I believe to be an original pressing from 1971.


Front Sleeve - Top Right Corner - showing UK catalogue number in brackets underneath.




Back Sleeve - Bottom Right Corner - saying "Distribuido por Hispavox, S.A." not "Fabricado por Hispavox - madrid"




Insert Top Right Corner




Insert Bottom Left Corner




Label - A Side




Label B Side





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-24 19:04 by strettonbull.

Furthermore - all the coloured vinyl versions are counterfeit copies of the 1980 sleeve, with a copy of the non Spanish record inside.

For sale on e-Bay Spanish Sticky Fingers

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I just wanted to belatedly say thank you to everyone for their input on this thread...particularly UrbanSteel and Strettonbull, the pictures/scans were a BIG help to me in sorting out which version of the record I had.

It turns out that I indeed have the 1980 version, and my friend had the original 1971 version. Which is why they looked slightly different, different enough to make me curious to ask about them. "Mystery" solved!

Thank you so much!