There's a site called Willard's Worm Holes that has a posting with links to downloads of everything through Sticky Fingers mono mixes. Evidently, a guy got tired of waiting for Decca (or ABKO I guess) to reissue the mono mixes similar to the Beatles a few years ago. He took it upon himself to load his old mono albums into zip files. Worth checking out if you have a mind to. Haven't listened yet but I figured there are folks here who would be mighty interested in this concept.

PS: you have to look in the comments to the post to get to the actual links. Have fun!

PSS: Studio stuff only.



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The Beatles mono box could provide us the sound in warm atmosphere.
It's a great idea.

I have to dig in...

There are NO true mono mix of Sticky Fingers!!!

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I have to dig in...

There are NO true mono mix of Sticky Fingers!!!

There was quite a bit of info on the site. I haven't a clue. Happy to have your input.

Was listening to 5.1 mixes of Beggars and Let It Bleed last night. Home made effort but very good.



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Was listening to 5.1 mixes of Beggars and Let It Bleed last night. Home made effort but very good.

I have a setting on my receiver that puts a "fake" surround sound on. It works real well on good recordings like Steely Dan. More basic stuff it doesn't make a big difference.

What could be the sense of listening to BB, SF & LIB in MONO???? To convert a stereo-record into a mono record is kinda strange.

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What could be the sense of listening to BB, SF & LIB in MONO???? To convert a stereo-record into a mono record is kinda strange.

BB and LIB were released in Mono as well as Stereo. If you haven't heard them then the Mono mixes are quite different, especially BB I think.
The version of Sympathy runs much faster and runs longer than the Stereo if I recall correctly.

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What could be the sense of listening to BB, SF & LIB in MONO???? To convert a stereo-record into a mono record is kinda strange.

BB and LIB were released in Mono as well as Stereo. If you haven't heard them then the Mono mixes are quite different, especially BB I think.
The version of Sympathy runs much faster and runs longer than the Stereo if I recall correctly.

Both Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed are fold-downs, not true mono with the exception of "Sympathy For The Devil".
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Oh my mistake, sorry.

Steve Hoffman's site has a good discussion about the Stones Mono. It seems that there are indeed authentic mono versions of BB and LIB.

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I don't know if I can believe this. I have both UK Mono pressings and I say only SFTD and SFM are mono, the rest of Beggars is fold down stereo. Plus LIB is entirely a fold down. My ears might deceive me but that's what I believe. Anyway, they are nice collectables in my opinion. Kind of love the red labels with large Decca letters.

So, if I understand everyone correctly the US Sticky Fingers mono wlp is a fold-down? Probably put out quickly for AM radio?

Scotty,
Irvine, CA

I have the spanish version of SF, and many say it is a fold down, it it is, it sounds damn good. I don't think it is... I can hear some subtle differences in the mixes. Can't You Hear Me knocking seems to fad out longer, and has a more distorted intro. Brown Sugar, the acoustic and lower in the mix (as opposed to the stereo Japanese pressing where the acoustic is full center. One of the main instruments).

I guess I can clearly firgure it out, but just in case please can anybody explain what a "fold-down" is. TIA.

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There's a site called Willard's Worm Holes that has a posting with links to downloads of everything through Sticky Fingers mono mixes. Evidently, a guy got tired of waiting for Decca (or ABKO I guess) to reissue the mono mixes similar to the Beatles a few years ago. He took it upon himself to load his old mono albums into zip files. Worth checking out if you have a mind to. Haven't listened yet but I figured there are folks here who would be mighty interested in this concept.

PS: you have to look in the comments to the post to get to the actual links. Have fun!

PSS: Studio stuff only.

Just for the purists; the files are mp3, 320 kbps (which is more than good enough for my old ears )

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Chris from Belgium

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There's a site called Willard's Worm Holes that has a posting with links to downloads of everything through Sticky Fingers mono mixes. Evidently, a guy got tired of waiting for Decca (or ABKO I guess) to reissue the mono mixes similar to the Beatles a few years ago. He took it upon himself to load his old mono albums into zip files. Worth checking out if you have a mind to. Haven't listened yet but I figured there are folks here who would be mighty interested in this concept.

PS: you have to look in the comments to the post to get to the actual links. Have fun!

PSS: Studio stuff only.

Just for the purists; the files are mp3, 320 kbps (which is more than good enough for my old ears )

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Right, I've just checked the same as you did.

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There's a site called Willard's Worm Holes that has a posting with links to downloads of everything through Sticky Fingers mono mixes. Evidently, a guy got tired of waiting for Decca (or ABKO I guess) to reissue the mono mixes similar to the Beatles a few years ago. He took it upon himself to load his old mono albums into zip files. Worth checking out if you have a mind to. Haven't listened yet but I figured there are folks here who would be mighty interested in this concept.

PS: you have to look in the comments to the post to get to the actual links. Have fun!

PSS: Studio stuff only.

Just for the purists; the files are mp3, 320 kbps (which is more than good enough for my old ears )

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Right, I've just checked the same as you did.

& the price is right!

I can't listen to Aftermath in STEREO. It's awful! And Between The Buttons MONO is also superb! Between The Mixes...

I just can't understand why The Stones won't put more emphasis on putting out quality re-releases. And this would include releasing the MONO mixes remastered. Look at the Beatles MONO box set! The way they handle and take care of The Beatles albums should have been an example The Stones followed. Don't Let me Down...

Reworking bonus tracks is not he way to do it. And no more of the "best of" compilations, please... The Stones must be one of those bands with the biggest number of compilations. Grrr...

A good example of being ripped off is the SF Super Deluxe edition (all other Super Deluxe editions of Stones albums are a rip off; could have mentioned any of them here):
A DVD featuring 2 tracks from Live At The Marquee! Seriously?! 2 tracks?! Isn't Get Yer Leeds Lungs Out available separately? Why not include the full show at Roundhouse? The 7" vinyl is pointless. I guess the book is the only thing that makes this SD set any interesting... And it's over $100... Sad sad sad...

I have been complaining about the Stones' re-releases a lot, because I hope someone from record labels would start thinking if people pointed out how poorly it's been done. The world's greatest rock & roll band deserves better! All Sold Out...

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What could be the sense of listening to BB, SF & LIB in MONO???? To convert a stereo-record into a mono record is kinda strange.

BB and LIB were released in Mono as well as Stereo. If you haven't heard them then the Mono mixes are quite different, especially BB I think.
The version of Sympathy runs much faster and runs longer than the Stereo if I recall correctly.

back in those days, when the industry began adopting the new fangled “stereo” format,
studio engineers were forced to make separate mixes for mono and stereo lp pressings.
programmable mixing boards hadn’t been invented yet.

as a result, the two versions would often include different instruments, emphasis and/or sounds.
not always noticeable, but sometimes extremely distinct.
their satanic majesties request is one such example of the latter.
a mono mix that easily surpasses the better known stereo version.



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I definitely agree TSMR sounds better in Mono and there are distinct differences in the mix. It's worth seeking out a copy.

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I have the spanish version of SF, and many say it is a fold down, it it is, it sounds damn good. I don't think it is... I can hear some subtle differences in the mixes. Can't You Hear Me knocking seems to fad out longer, and has a more distorted intro. Brown Sugar, the acoustic and lower in the mix (as opposed to the stereo Japanese pressing where the acoustic is full center. One of the main instruments).

Hey !
I might sound rather stupid, - but what the heck - "many say it is a fold down" - does this mean that SF had a spanish Mono-release ? ? ? ? ?
- or just that it is some kind of a "different" Stereo-mix - ?