Re: ISO: Brussels 1973 2nd show
Posted by:
smokeydusky
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Date: August 7, 2014 20:40
AFAIK there is no "audience" recording of the 2d show.
I believe the Back To the Graveyard versions on OBR and DAC are soundboards from Brussels 2d and other European shows.
Here are Erik's comments:
HE ROLLING STONES - BACK TO THE GRAVEYARD
(Dogs And Cats 113)
LINEAGE:
Original DAC CD -> WAV (EAC v. 0.95 beta 4 - secure, Offset "actual") -> FLAC (flacfrontend, level 6) -> You
DATE/VENUE:
Soundboard compilation from the European Tour 1973
QUALITY:
Track 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 = Perfect Mono !
Track 5 / 12 = Excellent Mono
Track 6 - 11 = Very Good Mono
PERFORMANCE:
Fantastic !
Midnight Rambler from London.... (known as the "oxygen-mask"-version [Jagger says "is there an oxygen mask in here" 9 minutes into the song] ) is among the best live perormances of any Stones songs, IMO
The 3 tracks from Newcastle are top notch....to say the least; and so is "Dancing With Mr D"
When it comes to Brussels.....it's comparable with the famous 1st show that day of course, but it's still really good
COMMENTS:
The quality is not too different from the OBR release, for the Newcastle/London and Frankfurt tracks.
However I find the Brussels songs to be smoother and better sounding. The OBR release featured these songs in stereo, while they come in mono here. But by using the best channel, DAC removed some of the hiss; and improved it ever so slightly, IMO
VENUES:
City Hall, Newcastle, UK, Sept. 13th 1973 - 1st show (track 1 / 2 / 4 )
Wembley Empire Pool, London, UK, Sept. 9th 1973 (track 3 / 5 )
Festhalle, Frankfurt, Germany, Sept. 30th 1973 - 2nd show (track 12)
Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) (track 7-11)
ARTWORK:
I scanned the artworks today
Tracklist
01. Brown Sugar
[City Hall, Newcastle, UK, Sept. 13th 1973 - 1st show]
02. @#$%&
[City Hall, Newcastle, UK, Sept. 13th 1973 - 1st show]
03. Dancing With Mr. D
[Wembley Empire Pool, London, UK, Sept. 9th 1973]
04. Angie
[City Hall, Newcastle, UK, Sept. 13th 1973 - 1st show]
05. Midnight Rambler
[Wembley Empire Pool, London, UK, Sept. 9th 1973]
06. Gimme Shelter
[Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) ]
07. Happy
[Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) ]
08. Tumbling Dice
[Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) ]
09. @#$%&
[Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) ]
10. All Down The Line
[Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) ]
11. Rip This Joint
[Foret Nationale, Brussels, Belgium, Oct. 17th 1973 - 2nd show (not the famous 1st show!) ]
12. Street Fighting Man
[Festhalle, Frankfurt, Germany, Sept. 30th 1973 - 2nd show]
Shared by Erik_Snow in March 2011
#4633823 by EricBT at 2011-03-21 16:59:22 GMT
For those that downloaded my torrent of this DAC on Hungercity.....you can't help seed here, I'm afraid. Because I ripped the CD once again today, since I had tagged the tracks incorrectly in my previous torrent, over there. In this torrent here on DIME, I have also included scans of the entire artwork (didn't have a scanner nearby before today)
#4635715 by kingmike at 2011-03-22 17:32:21 GMT
basically same sources to compare, which makes "comparing" a bit difficult...but you were dead on about the extra hiss in the stereo version....the stereo would be nice, but of course the hiss is semi-significant on those tracks....I also found the brown sugar source on THIS version doesn't seem as oversatted as the other...both very good, but a slightly cleaner listen on those tracks as well......another recycled/donated stones boot, when will it end LOL Big Thanks!!!!! m
#4636950 by EricBT at 2011-03-23 11:28:50 GMT
Yeah, I noticed that too
BTW, if you compare "Birmingham Remaster 1973" (IMP) with "Birmingham Odeon" (DAC), you'll notice something of the same thing. The IMP release is overloaded, while DAC is not. However - the "overloaded" IMP release has it's advantages as well, so I'm not saying that one is better than the other, in that case
But for Back To The Graveyard.....DAC beats OBR, ever so slightly.