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Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: rollingandre ()
Date: December 30, 2013 18:42

Rolling Stones collectors,

I would like to exchange detailed collectors information on the Rolling Stones CD's on the CBS releases in Europe Australia and Japan.
Also the information on the Rolling Stones CK releases for the USA, Canada, Japan and South-America market would be nice to know.
I collect already for many years and have a lot of different releases and of course I can provide a lot of info about these releases.
So please get in touch if you are interested.

Best wishes for 2014 !

Andre
[email protected]

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: nick ()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:31

That's going to be a tough one because you are already an EXPERT about these releases.

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: rogerriffin ()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:01

I´m not expert like you, but i could get the London and CBS cds from different matrix and countries, not too bad i think...


Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: rollingandre ()
Date: December 31, 2013 20:50

To Nick,

Well I just do my best to sort things out, it's just how far a collector goes.

To Rogerriffin,
Yes, info would be fine about the London and CBS catalogue.

For all, email me and I will email you back with the info which I have !

Thanks and happy new year !

Andre rollingandre@home.nl

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: rollingandre ()
Date: January 1, 2014 18:33

Different releases of the Rolling Stones CD's on the LONDON label. (as far as I could find out)
If you need matrixnumbers, just email me at rollingandre@home.nl

Hot rocks 1 820141 2 ARGENTINA
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 ARGENTINA
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 AUSTRALIA
12 x 5 820048-2 BRASIL
Aftermath 820050 2 BRASIL
Between the buttons 820138 2 promo BRASIL
December's children 820135 2 promo BRASIL
December's children 820135 2 BRASIL
Flowers 820139 2 promo BRASIL
Get yer ya ya's out 820131-2 BRASIL
Got live if you want it 820137-2 Limited Edition BRASIL
Got live if you want it 820137-2 promo BRASIL
Got live if you want it 820137-2 BRASIL
Let it bleed 820052 2 BRASIL
Now 820133 2 promo BRASIL
Out of our heads 820049-2 promo BRASIL
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 different BRASIL
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 promo BRASIL
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 BRASIL
Their satanic majesties request 820129-2 different matrixno. BRASIL
Their satanic majesties request 820129-2 BRASIL
Aftermath 820050 2 4e pressing OL FRANCE
Beggars banquet 800084-2 4e pressing ML FRANCE
Between the buttons 820138-2 4e pressing OL FRANCE
Got live if you want it 820137-2 4e pressing OL FRANCE
Hot rocks 1 820141-2 1e pressing OL FRANCE
Let it bleed 820052 2 4e pressing OL FRANCE
Let it bleed 820052 2 DECCA pressing FRANCE
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 4e pressing OL FRANCE
Their satanic majesties request 820129-2 3e pressing ML FRANCE
Their satanic majesties request 820129-2 4e pressing OL FRANCE
12 x 5 820048 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
12 x 5 820048 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
12 x 5 820048-2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
12 x 5 820048-2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
12 x 5 820048-2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Aftermath 820050 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Aftermath 820050 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Aftermath 820050 2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Beggars banquet 800084 2 1e pressing ffrr GERMANY
Beggars banquet 800084 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
Beggars banquet 800084-2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Beggars banquet 800084-2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
Between the buttons 820138 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Between the buttons 820138-2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Between the buttons 820138-2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
Between the buttons 820138-2 4e pressing ML GERMANY
Between the buttons 820138-2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
Between the buttons 820138-2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
December's children 820135 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
December's children 820135 2 3e pressing OL different GERMANY
December's children 820135 2 4e pressing ML GERMANY
December's children 820135 2 6e pressing ML GERMANY
December's children 820135-2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
December's children 820135-2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Flowers 820139 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Flowers 820139 2 4e pressing ML GERMANY
Get yer ya ya's out 820131 2 4e pressing ML GERMANY
Get yer ya ya's out 820131-2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Get yer ya ya's out 820131-2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
Get yer ya ya's out 820131-2 5e pressing OL GERMANY
Get yer ya ya's out 820131-2 6e pressing ML GERMANY
Got live if you want it 820137-2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Got live if you want it 820137-2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
Got live if you want it 820137-2 6e pressing ML GERMANY
Hot rocks 1 820141 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks 1 820141 2 3e pressing ML different GERMANY
Hot rocks 1 820141 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Hot rocks 1 820141-2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks 1 820141-2 GERMANY
Hot rocks 1 820141-2 Spr.18 blanc label promo GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 3e pressing ML Different GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 5e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks 2 820142 2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Hot rocks collection 1 club edition 657536 GERMANY
Hot rocks collection 2 club edition 657544 GERMANY
Hot rocks collection more hot rocks club ed. 657551 GERMANY
Hot rocks collection more hot rocks club ed. 657569 GERMANY
Let it bleed 820052 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Let it bleed 820052 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
Let it bleed 820052 2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
More hot rocks 1 820515 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
More hot rocks 1 820515 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
More hot rocks 1 820515 2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
More hot rocks 2 820516 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
More hot rocks 2 820516 2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
More hot rocks 2 820516 2 5e pressing OL GERMANY
More hot rocks 2 820516 2 6e pressing ML GERMANY
More hot rocks 2 820516 2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Now 820133 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Now 820133 2 3e pressing OL GERMANY
Now 820133 2 5e pressing OL GERMANY
Out of our heads 820049 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Out of our heads 820049 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Out of our heads 820049 2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
Out of our heads 820049 2 5e pressing OL GERMANY
Out of our heads 820049 2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047 2 1e pressing ffrr ear-label GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047 2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047 2 4e pressing ML GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 5e pressing OL GERMANY
Rolling Stones, the 820047-2 6e pressing OL GERMANY
Their satanic majesties request 820129 2 2e pressing OL GERMANY
Their satanic majesties request 820129-2 3e pressing ML GERMANY
Their satanic majesties request 820129-2 4e pressing OL GERMANY
12 x 5 P25L 25052 JAPAN
12 x 5 POCD 1912 JAPAN
12 x 5 POCD 1960 JAPAN
Aftermath P25L 25037 JAPAN
Beggars banquet P25L 25043 JAPAN
Beggars banquet POCD 1969 JAPAN
Between the buttons P25L 25040 JAPAN
Between the buttons P33L 25009 JAPAN
Between the buttons POCD 1920 JAPAN
Big hits (high tide and green grass) P25L 25039 JAPAN
Big hits (high tide and green grass) P25L 25039 JAPAN
December's children P25L 25036 JAPAN
England newest hitmakers POCD 1936 JAPAN
Flowers P25L 25041 JAPAN
Get yer ya ya's out P25L 25046 JAPAN
Get yer ya ya's out P25L 25046 JAPAN
Get yer ya ya's out POCD 1972 JAPAN
Get yer ya ya's out POCD 1972 JAPAN
Got live if you want it P25L 25038 JAPAN
Hot rocks 1 P25L 25047 JAPAN
Hot rocks 1 POCD 1927 JAPAN
Hot rocks 2 P25L 25048 JAPAN
Hot rocks 2 P33L 25012 JAPAN
Let it bleed P25L 25045 JAPAN
Let it bleed POCD 1971 JAPAN
More hot rocks 1 P25L 25049 JAPAN
More hot rocks 1 POCD 1929 JAPAN
More hot rocks 2 P25L 25050 JAPAN
More hot rocks 2 POCD 1930 JAPAN
Now P25L 25034 JAPAN
Now POCD 1961 JAPAN
Out of our heads P25L 25035 JAPAN
Out of our heads POCD 1962 JAPAN
Rolling Stones No 2, the P25L 25033 JAPAN
Rolling Stones, the P25L 25031 JAPAN
Their satanic majesties request P25L25042 JAPAN
Through the past darkly P25L 25044 JAPAN
Through the past darkly P33L 25017 JAPAN
Through the past darkly POCD 1932 JAPAN
Through the past darkly POCD 1970 JAPAN
Hot rocks 1 820141 2 / DD 0036 KOREA
Beggars banquet 800084 2 TIN records RUSSIA
Let it bleed 820052 2 Continent Ltd RUSSIA
12 x 5 STARCD 6161 SOUTH AFRICA
Hot rocks 1 ROKCD 1 SOUTH AFRICA
More hot rocks 1 STARCD 6162 SOUTH-AFRICA

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: January 2, 2014 15:54

Here you have info on Rolling Stones, the 820047 2 West German London with pictures.
[www.iorr.org]

I'll send you more later.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-01-02 16:32 by ironbelly.

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 3, 2014 07:58

CORRECTED POST

BIG HITS HIGH TIDE AND GREEN GRASS US POCD-1056 1991

[sites.google.com]

[sites.google.com]

1. Satisfaction (3:44) mono
2. The Last Time (3:42) mono
3. As Tears Go By (2:46) mono
4. Time Is On My Side (3:01) mono
5. It's All Over Now (3:27) mono
6. Tell Me (3:49) mono
7. 19th Nervous Breakdown (3:58) mono
8. Heart Of Stone (2:52) stereo
9. Get Off Of My Cloud (2:56) mono
10. Not Fade Away (1:49) mono
11. Good Times, Bad Times (2:32) mono
12. Play With Fire (2:13) mono

CD face claims "MONO" but as we've learned with the Rolling Stones releases is that we never know what we have until we have it.

I love this mix of many of the Stones songs Heart of Stone is a great one (Same as on Through the Past Darkly POCD-1957) ad Satisfaction, this may be the best one but we would have never know it listing to the USA 1980s releases (old Abkco CDs) since the sound wasn't great. Many awesome mixes!

Listen to Satisfaction's guitar work at about 30 seconds.

The two POCD 'odd balls' from 1991 (listed a copyright 1986) [home.arcor.de] (scroll half way down to the chart) are the first Japanese CDs to not use the MFSL wide stereo mixes(P33L series and P25L series uses MFSL mixes). In fact Through The Past Darkly (US) POCD-1957 and Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (US) use the 1986 Abkco Remasters. The covers of these CDs feature the black and red banner on the bottom of the front covers saying "DIGITALLY REMASTERED FROM ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS' just like the US 1980's 'old Abkco' CDs.

Please correct any information if needed. I do not have very CD!

I have several of the POCD releases. I started collecting them since the sound was superior at the time (and maybe still is for those mixes).

Paint It Black on Through the Past Darkly POCD-1957 is the long version with the Abkco 1986 mix! It's my favorite. The same version is on the 1986 Hot Rocks but it doesn't sound as good on those CDs.

There are many series and not a lot of information on some (many) series. Do you want to make a web site with information on all series? Are you just interested in the Abkco years? I'm sure many people would help send images (photos) and information. I hope somebody will collect all of this information.

Which CDs do you have everybody? What are your comments? What's good? What's bad? What is stereo? Which are wide stereo.

I love the MFSL "You Can't Always Get What You Want." 2000 Light Years is cool too.

ExileStones



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-01-03 17:25 by exilestones.

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 3, 2014 17:45

Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) UICY-93019 Japan 2006

1. Satisfaction (3:44) narrow stereo?
2. The Last Time (3:42) mono
3. As Tears Go By (2:46) mono
4. Time Is On My Side (3:01) stereo – guitar intro
5. It's All Over Now (3:27) stereo
6. Tell Me (3:49) mono
7. 19th Nervous Breakdown (3:58) mono
8. Heart Of Stone (2:52) stereo
9. Get Off Of My Cloud (2:56) mono
10. Not Fade Away (1:49) mono
11. Good Times, Bad Times (2:32) mono
12. Play With Fire (2:13) mono

[www.minilps.net]

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 3, 2014 23:21

There are many series of Rolling Stones album releases. They are usually easily identified by catalog number and obi strip.

Obi: "The Rolling Stones in the 60s"

Mini-LP

UICY-93013-20

8 EARLY CLASSIC ALBUMS (2006, ABKCO/UNIVERSAL JAPAN RARE PRESS) ON MINI-LP FORMAT

COMPLETED WITH DISK UNION (JAPAN) DRAWYER STYLE 'OUT OF OUR HEADS' PROMO BOX & SPECIAL PROMO OBI'S

ALBUMS:

THE ROLLING STONES (ENGLAND'S NEWEST HIT MAKERS)
12 x 5
THE ROLLING STONES, NOW!
OUT OF OUR HEADS
OUT OF OUR HEADS (UK VERSION)
DECEMBER'S CHILDREN (AND EVERYBODY'S)
BIG HITS (HIGH TIDE AND GREEN GRASS)
AFTERMATH

LABEL: UNIVERSAL MUSIC, JAPAN CAT#: UICY-93013~20

This mini lp was included in the limited edition Out of Our Heads Box that was issued by Disk Union on 2006-03-16 containing eight mini LP titles and came with 6 promo obis.

[www.minilps.net]

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 5, 2014 07:21



The Rolling Stones LONDON 820 047-2



art 01


art 02



art 03

History

Which issue is this one?

Thanks,
ExileStones

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: rollingandre ()
Date: January 5, 2014 19:02

Hi fellow collectors,

To ExileStones : The picture of the Rolling Stones CD The Rolling Stones, is a limited Brasilian edition pressed in Sao Paulo. As far as known only this title exist from the London catalogue. (if anybody knows about other issues, than please react.)

About the [home.arcor.de] page, well I known this already for several years and I have contributed the site with information and pictures several years ago. However not all the info has been listed (for example the Australian and South-African titles).
Anyway, thank you guys for your reaction here. Together we will gather the information which we are looking for.

Thanks again.

Andre

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 5, 2014 20:04

Quote
rollingandre
Hi fellow collectors,

To ExileStones : The picture of the Rolling Stones CD The Rolling Stones, is a limited Brasilian edition pressed in Sao Paulo. As far as known only this title exist from the London catalogue. (if anybody knows about other issues, than please react.)

About the [home.arcor.de] page, well I known this already for several years and I have contributed the site with information and pictures several years ago. However not all the info has been listed (for example the Australian and South-African titles).
Anyway, thank you guys for your reaction here. Together we will gather the information which we are looking for.

Thanks again.

Andre


Hi Andre,

Is that your website? It's great! That web site gave me much information to collecting Rolling Stones CDs. Are there plans to expand that website [home.arcor.de] ? I would like to help.

Thank you for the information about my CD!

My hunt for Rolling Stones CDs is more about the music, the different mixes (mastering) and sound. I do like the different CDs too.

There are many to collect! Much money! How many do I need? I have bought Sticky Fingers and Satanic Majesties in many series but not from ever country. I search for the best sound and mix!

I will share these with everybody. It takes time and work for each disc to scan, rip, upload and make links to the artwork.

"Together we will gather the information which we are looking for." Yes, hopefully we can have a website with all Rolling Stones CDs and information about each series. I can gather information but I am not good on making a website.

Since the main issue for me is sound and mix, I wonder if the London 1980's CDs are worth having as far as sound goes. I understand they feature the MFSL wide stereo mixes (I love You Can"t Always Get What You Want and 2000 Light Years) but I think (not sure) that the P25L series is all that is needed if we want the best sounding wide stereo mixes on CD?



chart taken from [home.arcor.de]

The 1986 'Old Abkco' have many great mixes but we had bad sounding CDs in the USA in the 1980s. I'm researching to see if all of the POCD series were taken from the 1986 Abkco Masters. Maybe somebody has more information.

I hope this thread will have more people interested in the different mixes of Rolling Stones songs. Some are great and others are horrible!

Thanks to the Stones Vault for helping everyone with the London CDs! Please send them a donation ;0).

I'd love to know the differences in the POCD 1995 and the POCD 1997 series. I guess I have to buy them all and share them so we can figure it out (I'm not buying them all.)! I have several which I will share and look for a few more.

Thanks again to everybody who is interested in these London CDs of the 1980s and 1990s. If you are not familiar with these CDs, then you must have a listen! When I first heard the wide stereo mixes and the Abkco 1986 Masters in great sound..WOW!..I heard my old friends in a whole new way! You don't have to have money or a big collection to have fun with these CDs. Just download and listen. Then I hope you'll tell us your thoughts.

ExileStones
photomedia@live.com

p.s. Feel free to copy my scans and information and use it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-01-05 20:06 by exilestones.

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 5, 2014 20:16










History

Maybe Andre can tell us what issue of 12 X 5 we have here and how he can tell. I hope more people will become interested in the different Rolling Stones CDs. Do you have any Rolling Stones CDs with the red and blue squares on the spine (side)? Do you have any of the POCD series?

Thank you,
ExileStones

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: rollingandre ()
Date: January 5, 2014 20:40

ExileStones, (Gerald)

Unfortunately it isn't my website, I have contributed the site with information and pictures a few years ago. (but not all the info has been listed!). The site is done by Erich Seitz and Andreas Wiethoff. Since than several people sent in information and details.
That's the winning point of sharing collectors information !

About your question with the 12x5 pictures, it's just the 2e pressed issue (see the [home.arcor.de] )
If you take out the CD case than you'll find again the ordernumber 520048-2)

Unfortunately I am not keen on the POCD series, for this part we are pending to other collectors of what they know (perhaps you can ).

Again, by sharing the info we all have, we will all get wise of what we are collecting !

Anybody out there who is kee on the US, Canada, Japan CK releases ?

Happy collecting ! Andre

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: midimannz ()
Date: January 5, 2014 20:43

You should check out Christoph Mous fabulous set of catalogued albums called Rolling Stones Worldwide.

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 5, 2014 21:35

Quote
rollingandre
The picture of the Rolling Stones CD The Rolling Stones, is a limited Brasilian edition pressed in Sao Paulo. As far as known only this title exist from the London catalogue. (if anybody knows about other issues, than please react.)

In 2010 Abkco released "The Rolling Stones" in HD - Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones (ABKCO.2010) 24-88 hdtracks - Audiophile 88kHz/24bit .

I saved the link from the original download but it no loner works [www.hdtracks.com] . I went to the HD Tracks website and "The Rolling Stones" has been replaced with "Englands Newest Hit Makers" HD TRACKS . COM .

Then I Googled for "The Rolling Stones HD Tracks" and found it The Rolling Stones HD . I'm confused as to why it shows-up on one version of HD Tracks dot com and not on the other? We need an Internet detective to figure out this mystery.

Here is the official image from the 2010 Abkco HD Tracks:



Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones (ABKCO.2010) 24-88 hdtracks
Audiophile 88kHz/24bit

Title: The Rolling Stones
Artist: The Rolling Stones
Genre: Rock
Label: ABKCO Records
Release Date: 1964

1 Route 66 2:21
2 I Just Want To Make Love To You 2:18
3 Honest I Do 2:10
4 Mona (I Need You Baby) 3:35
5 Now I've Got A Witness 2:32
6 Little By Little 2:40
7 I'm A King Bee 2:37
8 Carol 2:34
9 Tell Me 4:05
10 Can I Get A Witness 2:56
11 You Can Make It If You Try 2:02
12 Walking The Dog 3:09


History

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: January 6, 2014 01:39

The Rolling Stones first album on CD.

Re: Exchange collectors info on Rolling Stones CBS & CK releases.
Posted by: nick ()
Date: January 8, 2014 04:20

"Then I Googled for "The Rolling Stones HD Tracks" and found it The Rolling Stones HD . I'm confused as to why it shows-up on one version of HD Tracks dot com and not on the other? We need an Internet detective to figure out this mystery."

You may have click a cached link of the page vs. the actual webpage that is there currently.



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