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This may well have been the greatest show I've ever attended....certainly in the top 3 anyway.
I posted the strongly rumoured tour schedule on page 6 of this thread a couple of weeks ago
While I applaud your effort Glen. I think their are a few errors. First you don't have Arcade Fire listed. Next,I'm pretty sure Badlands has been done at every show and I don't think Born In The USA has been done at all. I could be wrong. But still a nice list.
Born in the USA was played in East Rutherford on September 28th last year.
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<<< Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once? >>>
Eloquently put, and you are of course 100 percent correct. In my opinion ... NO, the one show in a lifetime person's "needs" (for want of a better expression) should absolutely NOT be prioritised over the "sizeable" section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once.
And so to the Stones. This is perhaps where they err far too much on the side of caution. Although I'm in no way as critical as some about the element of "warhorse repetition" in their setlists, I do feel as if the setlists in general represent far too heavy of a nod to the "once in a lifetime" category of concert attendee, rather than the other. I am given to wonder though whether their perception of the crowd "mix" is actually correct. Perhaps in a stadium setting, yes ... the once in a lifetime brigade do outnumber the diehards, but in an arena setting, I wouldn't be so sure. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this is an area in which I feel (even the man does nothing for me personally) that Mr Springsteen (and his like) do in all fairness serve their faithful followers considerably better and in kinder fashion than the Stones.
You might wish to alert the good Logie to this 'ere post of mine, this is as much in the way of a conciliatory scribble on the subject of setlists/Stones/Springsteen etc as he's ever gonna get outa me, so he'd better read it and enjoy it while he can ... before big bad BV comes along and goes "o no, the tough northern bastard and the soft southern jessie are at it again - better kill this thread too"
i didn't compile the list, i copied it from stoneponylondon.net
the list is correct. it includes the 2 songs bruce did with arcade fire (keep the car running and state trooper).
it includes the 3 "rehearsal" shows in NJ in september 2007 (they were open to the public with tix regurarly on sale) but not the benefit show in NJ in may 2008 (it's not considered part of of the magic tour proper).
badlands wasn't played at one of the september shows.
worthy of note: in may 2008 in manchester, bruce played only 9 songs that he also played in manchester in may 2003....
I don't get this, Gazza.
why do you think it's a show off? "I do this to show I can do it"
to me, it's more "I do this because I WANT to do it"
it's to keep the band and himself on the edge of their seats, on their toes. and to thrill and entertain his audience in a way that he thinks is best.
the boss's declared philosophy is: "we may be playing 80 shows in 8 months, but a certain kid in the audience will only see us once in his lifetime, we want to give THAT kid the best show of his life: we play every show as if it was the last show of our career"
and maybe the only way the boss knows to force the band to play the best possible show every night, is changing the set every night and changing the opener every night.
I think he knows his stuff: he's been playing with the ESB since 1972...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-10 13:37 by superglen.
I'm kidding. It's a form of mock appreciation. I'm the last person in the world who'll ever complain about an artist shaking up setlists.
The stonemason is here, while I speak, carving out those words of yours about the Stones and their setlists.
Fair enough post.
For what its worth, I think the days of Stones audiences being heavily populated by "once in a lifetime" attendees are LONG gone. Not with the regularity that theyve toured this decade and the age of their audience (the Isle of Wight festival and far flung places like Bucharest and Budva being notable exceptions because those gigs really were 'virgin territory')
No way are a sizeable amount of their audience seeing them for the first and only time. "Once in a tour" maybe but not "once in a lifetime". And if those audiences are seeing them once but never to return, that asks another question altogether.
PS - Have you changed your phone number? I texted you yesterday.
Good good ... should hate to find myself being misquoted in later years ...........
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-10 17:24 by paulywaul.
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Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Adrian-L
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Date: May 24, 2008 15:05
sounds like Gazza got a fantastic 2nd night
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: May 26, 2008 00:05
OK,so now that the Euro tour has started. Where is the effing announcement about the fall US tour....
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
"It's just some friends of mine and they're busting down the door"
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: May 26, 2008 01:13
dublin III, 25-5-08
1. No Surrender
2. Radio Nowhere
3. The Ties That Bind
4. Spirit In The Night
5. Gypsy Biker
6. Atlantic City
7. Reason To Believe
8. 4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
9. Growin' Up
10. Because The Night
11. She's The One
12. Livin' In The Future
13. Mary's Place
14. The Promised Land
15. Racing In The Street
16. The Rising
17. Last To Die
18. Long Walk Home
19. Badlands
----------------------------------
20. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
21. Born To Run
22. Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)
23. Dancing In The Dark
24. American Land
----------------------------------
25. Ramrod
26. Glory Days
3 hours of rock and roll...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-05-26 01:14 by superglen.
1. No Surrender
2. Radio Nowhere
3. The Ties That Bind
4. Spirit In The Night
5. Gypsy Biker
6. Atlantic City
7. Reason To Believe
8. 4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
9. Growin' Up
10. Because The Night
11. She's The One
12. Livin' In The Future
13. Mary's Place
14. The Promised Land
15. Racing In The Street
16. The Rising
17. Last To Die
18. Long Walk Home
19. Badlands
----------------------------------
20. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
21. Born To Run
22. Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)
23. Dancing In The Dark
24. American Land
----------------------------------
25. Ramrod
26. Glory Days
3 hours of rock and roll...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-05-26 01:14 by superglen.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
LOGIE
()
Date: May 26, 2008 02:37
KNEW I should have stayed in Dublin for that extra night!
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
austrianstones
()
Date: May 28, 2008 22:41
hi,
somebody knows when on friday 30th may london the show starts ?
we are in london and wanna see bruce.
i think there are lot of tix to buy in front of the stadium!?
any meeting points of iorr'ers?
robert from austria
somebody knows when on friday 30th may london the show starts ?
we are in london and wanna see bruce.
i think there are lot of tix to buy in front of the stadium!?
any meeting points of iorr'ers?
robert from austria
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: May 29, 2008 00:30
manchester 28.5.08
1. No Surrender
2. Radio Nowhere
3. Night
4. Lonesome Day
5. The Promised Land
6. Magic
7. Trapped
8. Adam Raised A Cain
9. Darlington County
10. It’s Hard To Be A Saint In The City
11. Because The Night
12. She’s The One
13. Livin’ In The Future
14. Mary’s Place
15. I’ll Work For Your Love
16. Devil’s Arcade
17. The Rising
18. Last To Die
19. Long Walk Home
20. Badlands
---------------------------------------------------------------
21. Growin’ Up
22. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
23. Born To Run
24. Rosalita
25. Dancing In The Dark
26. American Land
1. No Surrender
2. Radio Nowhere
3. Night
4. Lonesome Day
5. The Promised Land
6. Magic
7. Trapped
8. Adam Raised A Cain
9. Darlington County
10. It’s Hard To Be A Saint In The City
11. Because The Night
12. She’s The One
13. Livin’ In The Future
14. Mary’s Place
15. I’ll Work For Your Love
16. Devil’s Arcade
17. The Rising
18. Last To Die
19. Long Walk Home
20. Badlands
---------------------------------------------------------------
21. Growin’ Up
22. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
23. Born To Run
24. Rosalita
25. Dancing In The Dark
26. American Land
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
stonesrick
()
Date: May 29, 2008 02:10
Just arrived back from an awesome show. The Boss is a true great and delivers every time. Great rapport with the audience and 26 songs.
The best thing is that I am off to see him on Friday at the Emirates in London, confident that he will mix up the setlist.
Can't wait...
The best thing is that I am off to see him on Friday at the Emirates in London, confident that he will mix up the setlist.
Can't wait...
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: June 3, 2008 10:38
May 30 / London, UK / Emirates Stadium
Notes: This first of two nights in London was the first concert to be held in Emirates Stadium, an enormous venue set down in the middle of a residential neighborhood, and the neighbors have been concerned about noise ever since these shows were announced. So with an established curfew, Springsteen and the E Streeters made sure to go on early -- "Did I see the sun? That can't be!" said Bruce. As it turned out, they blew right by the curfew time anyway, with the longest show yet of the tour, at 28 songs. Let others worry about the noise, Bruce had bigger concerns: "Nobody's played here before? We gotta test that structure tonight!"
Opening with "Tenth Avenue Freeze-out" got the crowd into it right away, and the post-"Magic" run from "Atlantic City" through "Because the Night" was particularly structure-rattling. During "Working on the Highway," which Bruce sang from out on the center stage thrust, he asked, "Who's got the signs?" After a sweep of the crowd from side to side, gathering those request banners as he went, he deposited an armful at center stage. Foregoing "She's the One," he decided to dig through the signs instead, throwing them over his shoulder as he went and settling on one for "Caddy Ranch." That one was a real highlight, featuring solos from Soozie and Steve.
The "big" numbers like "Mary's Place" and "Waitin' on a Sunny Day" kill the momentum a bit, but of course they're perfect for venues of this size. Bruce made sure to get everyone on the sides and in the way back involved. "You gotta do that big stadium thing!" he encouraged on "Sunny Day," getting them to wave their hands in the air like they really, really care and to sing along. "Oh, that's pretty good for here!" he needled. Back to the sign pile for another request: a magnificent "Point Blank" that recalled "Racing" in Dublin as a song that really shouldn't work in a ridiculously large venue... but really did. Standout bass work from Garry Tallent.
Hit after hit in the encore, starting with an inspiring, communal performance of "Thunder Road" as a dedication: "We want to thank our longtime, faithful English fans... We're gonna do this for you." After "Born to Run" and "Glory Days" (Bruce: "Is it tea time?... Is it sexy time?" Steve: "Not yet!"), it was time to really drive the crowd wild. "You can't take it no more!" Bruce hollered. "We wanna give it to you!" he repeated. "We're gonna give it to you!" They did -- "Rosie" was a blast. Structure test passed. But of course, that's just night one.
-Photographs by Harry Scott
Setlist:
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out
Radio Nowhere
The Ties That Bind
Lonesome Day
The Promised Land
Magic
Atlantic City
Reason to Believe
Candy's Room
Prove it all Night
Because the Night
Working on the Highway
Cadillac Ranch
Livin' in the Future
Mary's Place
Waitin' on a Sunny Day
Point Blank
Devil's Arcade
The Rising
Last to Die
Long Walk Home
Badlands
* * *
Thunder Road
Born to Run
Glory Days
Rosalita
Dancing in the Dark
American Land
May 31 / London, UK / Emirates Stadium
Notes: Another great show for night two in London -- this one ended right at curfew, at 24 songs, but was nice and loose, with a full half of the set not played the night before. Bill Cunningham writes: "It's hard to decide which of the two was the better night -- with so many setlist changes, it felt almost as if the two-night run in London was just one wonderful six-hour show."
One notable change was moving "Radio Nowhere" to the fifth slot. They opened with a bang with "Out in the Street," and burned through "No Surrender," "Darkness," and "Gypsy Biker" -- none of which were played on Friday -- before getting to what had been the traditional concert opener last time they were in these parts. "Sandy" and "Growin' Up" were wrapped around some Danny stories, and then it was on to back-to-back Born in the U.S.A. rarities: "Downbound Train" and "I'm on Fire." These were the first tour premieres of this European leg.
Ian Henry tells us: "It may have been a few songs shorter, but it was simply sensational and awesome tonight. Bruce was seriously on fire, the set was so radically different from the first night, and the performance of 'Jungleland' was, in my 32-show experience, probably the finest. But the real joy was 'Sandy'; this week, my list of songs I was desperate to hear live was three: 'Point Blank,' 'Sandy,' and 'NYC Serenade.' As another big man once sang, to Roy on the piano I believe, two out of three ain't bad. And tonight proved one thing to me, Ian’s First Law of Bruce Concerts Theory: if he is playing two shows in your town and you can't do both, do the second! But I did both, and I -- like the band -- need my two-week rest. Roll on Cardiff!"
Setlist:
Out in the Street
No Surrender
Darkness on the Edge of Town
Gypsy Biker
Radio Nowhere
4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
Growin' Up
Downbound Train
I'm on Fire
Because the Night
She's the One
Livin' in the Future
Mary's Place
The Promised Land
Backstreets
The Rising
Last to Die
Long Walk Home
Badlands
* * *
Girls in Their Summer Clothes
Jungleland
Born to Run
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out
American Land
Notes: This first of two nights in London was the first concert to be held in Emirates Stadium, an enormous venue set down in the middle of a residential neighborhood, and the neighbors have been concerned about noise ever since these shows were announced. So with an established curfew, Springsteen and the E Streeters made sure to go on early -- "Did I see the sun? That can't be!" said Bruce. As it turned out, they blew right by the curfew time anyway, with the longest show yet of the tour, at 28 songs. Let others worry about the noise, Bruce had bigger concerns: "Nobody's played here before? We gotta test that structure tonight!"
Opening with "Tenth Avenue Freeze-out" got the crowd into it right away, and the post-"Magic" run from "Atlantic City" through "Because the Night" was particularly structure-rattling. During "Working on the Highway," which Bruce sang from out on the center stage thrust, he asked, "Who's got the signs?" After a sweep of the crowd from side to side, gathering those request banners as he went, he deposited an armful at center stage. Foregoing "She's the One," he decided to dig through the signs instead, throwing them over his shoulder as he went and settling on one for "Caddy Ranch." That one was a real highlight, featuring solos from Soozie and Steve.
The "big" numbers like "Mary's Place" and "Waitin' on a Sunny Day" kill the momentum a bit, but of course they're perfect for venues of this size. Bruce made sure to get everyone on the sides and in the way back involved. "You gotta do that big stadium thing!" he encouraged on "Sunny Day," getting them to wave their hands in the air like they really, really care and to sing along. "Oh, that's pretty good for here!" he needled. Back to the sign pile for another request: a magnificent "Point Blank" that recalled "Racing" in Dublin as a song that really shouldn't work in a ridiculously large venue... but really did. Standout bass work from Garry Tallent.
Hit after hit in the encore, starting with an inspiring, communal performance of "Thunder Road" as a dedication: "We want to thank our longtime, faithful English fans... We're gonna do this for you." After "Born to Run" and "Glory Days" (Bruce: "Is it tea time?... Is it sexy time?" Steve: "Not yet!"), it was time to really drive the crowd wild. "You can't take it no more!" Bruce hollered. "We wanna give it to you!" he repeated. "We're gonna give it to you!" They did -- "Rosie" was a blast. Structure test passed. But of course, that's just night one.
-Photographs by Harry Scott
Setlist:
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out
Radio Nowhere
The Ties That Bind
Lonesome Day
The Promised Land
Magic
Atlantic City
Reason to Believe
Candy's Room
Prove it all Night
Because the Night
Working on the Highway
Cadillac Ranch
Livin' in the Future
Mary's Place
Waitin' on a Sunny Day
Point Blank
Devil's Arcade
The Rising
Last to Die
Long Walk Home
Badlands
* * *
Thunder Road
Born to Run
Glory Days
Rosalita
Dancing in the Dark
American Land
May 31 / London, UK / Emirates Stadium
Notes: Another great show for night two in London -- this one ended right at curfew, at 24 songs, but was nice and loose, with a full half of the set not played the night before. Bill Cunningham writes: "It's hard to decide which of the two was the better night -- with so many setlist changes, it felt almost as if the two-night run in London was just one wonderful six-hour show."
One notable change was moving "Radio Nowhere" to the fifth slot. They opened with a bang with "Out in the Street," and burned through "No Surrender," "Darkness," and "Gypsy Biker" -- none of which were played on Friday -- before getting to what had been the traditional concert opener last time they were in these parts. "Sandy" and "Growin' Up" were wrapped around some Danny stories, and then it was on to back-to-back Born in the U.S.A. rarities: "Downbound Train" and "I'm on Fire." These were the first tour premieres of this European leg.
Ian Henry tells us: "It may have been a few songs shorter, but it was simply sensational and awesome tonight. Bruce was seriously on fire, the set was so radically different from the first night, and the performance of 'Jungleland' was, in my 32-show experience, probably the finest. But the real joy was 'Sandy'; this week, my list of songs I was desperate to hear live was three: 'Point Blank,' 'Sandy,' and 'NYC Serenade.' As another big man once sang, to Roy on the piano I believe, two out of three ain't bad. And tonight proved one thing to me, Ian’s First Law of Bruce Concerts Theory: if he is playing two shows in your town and you can't do both, do the second! But I did both, and I -- like the band -- need my two-week rest. Roll on Cardiff!"
Setlist:
Out in the Street
No Surrender
Darkness on the Edge of Town
Gypsy Biker
Radio Nowhere
4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
Growin' Up
Downbound Train
I'm on Fire
Because the Night
She's the One
Livin' in the Future
Mary's Place
The Promised Land
Backstreets
The Rising
Last to Die
Long Walk Home
Badlands
* * *
Girls in Their Summer Clothes
Jungleland
Born to Run
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out
American Land
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: June 3, 2008 13:26
bruce in london did 28 songs (3 hours) the first night and 24 the second night.
over the course of the 2 nights, he did 40 different songs!!!
over the course of the 2 nights, he did 40 different songs!!!
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: June 3, 2008 14:11
Quote
superglen
dublin III, 25-5-08
1. No Surrender
2. Radio Nowhere
3. The Ties That Bind
4. Spirit In The Night
5. Gypsy Biker
6. Atlantic City
7. Reason To Believe
8. 4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
9. Growin' Up
10. Because The Night
11. She's The One
12. Livin' In The Future
13. Mary's Place
14. The Promised Land
15. Racing In The Street
16. The Rising
17. Last To Die
18. Long Walk Home
19. Badlands
----------------------------------
20. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
21. Born To Run
22. Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)
23. Dancing In The Dark
24. American Land
----------------------------------
25. Ramrod
26. Glory Days
3 hours of rock and roll...
This may well have been the greatest show I've ever attended....certainly in the top 3 anyway.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Addicted
()
Date: June 3, 2008 16:30
Reading all this stuff really makes me look forward to the Springsteen shows I have tickets for.
Does anyone have any info about the rumoured tour of the US this autumn? We're heading over in September, for 4 weeks.
Does anyone have any info about the rumoured tour of the US this autumn? We're heading over in September, for 4 weeks.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: June 3, 2008 16:46
US fall tour will start on august 30 in milwaukee (only date announced so far) and end on halloween in LA. 30 arena shows.
those dates will be announced any day now.
bruce will play some one-off US stadium shows in july and august.
so far, he's announced 3 in NJ and one in boston, but a couple of philly dates are likely.
those dates will be announced any day now.
bruce will play some one-off US stadium shows in july and august.
so far, he's announced 3 in NJ and one in boston, but a couple of philly dates are likely.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
The Stones
()
Date: June 3, 2008 19:50
I'm on Fire - Bruce Springsteen - Emirates 31/5/08
Amazing video with Bruce amongst the audience.
Amazing video with Bruce amongst the audience.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: June 3, 2008 23:14
Quote
Addicted
Reading all this stuff really makes me look forward to the Springsteen shows I have tickets for.
Does anyone have any info about the rumoured tour of the US this autumn? We're heading over in September, for 4 weeks.
I posted the strongly rumoured tour schedule on page 6 of this thread a couple of weeks ago
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Cat
()
Date: June 5, 2008 16:31
any iorr'ers going to the show in Dusseldorf ?
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: June 9, 2008 11:07
updated stats after the 2 london shows
107 different songs in 74 shows
still about 50 shows to do before the end of the tour (october 2008)
4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy) 6 8.1%
Adam Raised a Cain 11 14.9%
All Just to Get to You [Joe Ely] 1 1.4%
Always A Friend [Alejandro Escovedo] 1 1.4%
American Land 74 100.0%
Atlantic City 6 8.1%
Backstreets 15 20.3%
Badlands 73 98.6%
Be True 3 4.1%
Because the Night 26 35.1%
Blinded By the Light 1 1.4%
Blood Brothers 1 1.4%
Bobby Jean 4 5.4%
Born In The U.S.A. 2 2.7%
Born to Run 74 100.0%
Brilliant Disguise 5 6.8%
Buffalo Gals 1 1.4%
Cadillac Ranch 6 8.1%
Candy's Room 22 29.7%
Code of Silence 1 1.4%
Cynthia 1 1.4%
Dancing in the Dark 52 70.3%
Darkness on the Edge of Town 15 20.3%
Darlington County 16 21.6%
Detroit Medley [Mitch Ryder] 3 4.1%
Devil's Arcade 69 93.2%
Does the Bus Stop at 82nd Street? 1 1.4%
Don't Look Back 1 1.4%
Downbound Train 1 1.4%
E Street Shuffle 4 5.4%
Empty Sky 1 1.4%
Fire 2 2.7%
For You 3 4.1%
Girls in Their Summer Clothes 56 75.7%
Glory Days 6 8.1%
Growing Up 6 8.1%
Gypsy Biker 68 91.9%
I Wanna Be With You 1 1.4%
I'll Fly Away [Albert Brumley] 1 1.4%
I'll Work for Your Love 13 17.6%
I'm On Fire 1 1.4%
Incident on 57th Street 8 10.8%
Independence Day 1 1.4%
It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City 4 5.4%
Jackson Cage 7 9.5%
Janey Don't You Lose Heart 1 1.4%
Jungleland 17 23.0%
Keep the Car Running 1 1.4%
Kitty's Back 15 20.3%
Last to Die 74 100.0%
Light of Day 1 1.4%
Living in the Future 74 100.0%
Lonesome Day 66 89.2%
Long Walk Home 74 100.0%
Loose Ends 4 5.4%
Lost in the Flood 4 5.4%
Magic 65 87.8%
Mary's Place 9 12.2%
Meeting Across The River 5 6.8%
Mr. Tambourine Man [Bob Dylan] 1 1.4%
Murder Inc. 5 6.8%
My Hometown 3 4.1%
Night 29 39.2%
No Surrender 33 44.6%
None But the Brave 1 1.4%
Out in the Street 11 14.9%
Point Blank 3 4.1%
Prove It All Night 20 27.0%
Racing in the Street 5 6.8%
Radio Nowhere 74 100.0%
Ramrod 7 9.5%
Reason to Believe 62 83.8%
Rendezvous 1 1.4%
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) 13 17.6%
Roulette 1 1.4%
Santa Claus is Coming to Town [Ronettes] 9 12.2%
Sherry Darling 2 2.7%
She's the One 72 97.3%
So Young and In Love 1 1.4%
Something in the Night 3 4.1%
Souls of the Departed 1 1.4%
Spirit in the Night 5 6.8%
State Trooper 1 1.4%
Streets of Fire 1 1.4%
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out 18 24.3%
Terry's Song 1 1.4%
The Ghost of Tom Joad 2 2.7%
The Promised Land 73 98.6%
The Rising 71 95.9%
The River 13 17.6%
The Ties That Bind 15 20.3%
This Hard Land 2 2.7%
Thunder Road 17 23.0%
Thundercrack 15 20.3%
Tougher Than the Rest 2 2.7%
Town Called Heartbreak 11 14.9%
Trapped [Jimmy Cliff] 9 12.2%
Tunnel of Love 11 14.9%
Turn Turn Turn [The Byrds] 1 1.4%
Two Hearts 1 1.4%
Waitin' on a Sunny Day 21 28.4%
Wild Billy's Circus Story 1 1.4%
Working On The Highway 19 25.7%
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) 2 2.7%
You'll Be Coming Down 1 1.4%
Youngstown 1 1.4%
Your Own Worst Enemy 6 8.1%
107 different songs in 74 shows
still about 50 shows to do before the end of the tour (october 2008)
4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy) 6 8.1%
Adam Raised a Cain 11 14.9%
All Just to Get to You [Joe Ely] 1 1.4%
Always A Friend [Alejandro Escovedo] 1 1.4%
American Land 74 100.0%
Atlantic City 6 8.1%
Backstreets 15 20.3%
Badlands 73 98.6%
Be True 3 4.1%
Because the Night 26 35.1%
Blinded By the Light 1 1.4%
Blood Brothers 1 1.4%
Bobby Jean 4 5.4%
Born In The U.S.A. 2 2.7%
Born to Run 74 100.0%
Brilliant Disguise 5 6.8%
Buffalo Gals 1 1.4%
Cadillac Ranch 6 8.1%
Candy's Room 22 29.7%
Code of Silence 1 1.4%
Cynthia 1 1.4%
Dancing in the Dark 52 70.3%
Darkness on the Edge of Town 15 20.3%
Darlington County 16 21.6%
Detroit Medley [Mitch Ryder] 3 4.1%
Devil's Arcade 69 93.2%
Does the Bus Stop at 82nd Street? 1 1.4%
Don't Look Back 1 1.4%
Downbound Train 1 1.4%
E Street Shuffle 4 5.4%
Empty Sky 1 1.4%
Fire 2 2.7%
For You 3 4.1%
Girls in Their Summer Clothes 56 75.7%
Glory Days 6 8.1%
Growing Up 6 8.1%
Gypsy Biker 68 91.9%
I Wanna Be With You 1 1.4%
I'll Fly Away [Albert Brumley] 1 1.4%
I'll Work for Your Love 13 17.6%
I'm On Fire 1 1.4%
Incident on 57th Street 8 10.8%
Independence Day 1 1.4%
It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City 4 5.4%
Jackson Cage 7 9.5%
Janey Don't You Lose Heart 1 1.4%
Jungleland 17 23.0%
Keep the Car Running 1 1.4%
Kitty's Back 15 20.3%
Last to Die 74 100.0%
Light of Day 1 1.4%
Living in the Future 74 100.0%
Lonesome Day 66 89.2%
Long Walk Home 74 100.0%
Loose Ends 4 5.4%
Lost in the Flood 4 5.4%
Magic 65 87.8%
Mary's Place 9 12.2%
Meeting Across The River 5 6.8%
Mr. Tambourine Man [Bob Dylan] 1 1.4%
Murder Inc. 5 6.8%
My Hometown 3 4.1%
Night 29 39.2%
No Surrender 33 44.6%
None But the Brave 1 1.4%
Out in the Street 11 14.9%
Point Blank 3 4.1%
Prove It All Night 20 27.0%
Racing in the Street 5 6.8%
Radio Nowhere 74 100.0%
Ramrod 7 9.5%
Reason to Believe 62 83.8%
Rendezvous 1 1.4%
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) 13 17.6%
Roulette 1 1.4%
Santa Claus is Coming to Town [Ronettes] 9 12.2%
Sherry Darling 2 2.7%
She's the One 72 97.3%
So Young and In Love 1 1.4%
Something in the Night 3 4.1%
Souls of the Departed 1 1.4%
Spirit in the Night 5 6.8%
State Trooper 1 1.4%
Streets of Fire 1 1.4%
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out 18 24.3%
Terry's Song 1 1.4%
The Ghost of Tom Joad 2 2.7%
The Promised Land 73 98.6%
The Rising 71 95.9%
The River 13 17.6%
The Ties That Bind 15 20.3%
This Hard Land 2 2.7%
Thunder Road 17 23.0%
Thundercrack 15 20.3%
Tougher Than the Rest 2 2.7%
Town Called Heartbreak 11 14.9%
Trapped [Jimmy Cliff] 9 12.2%
Tunnel of Love 11 14.9%
Turn Turn Turn [The Byrds] 1 1.4%
Two Hearts 1 1.4%
Waitin' on a Sunny Day 21 28.4%
Wild Billy's Circus Story 1 1.4%
Working On The Highway 19 25.7%
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) 2 2.7%
You'll Be Coming Down 1 1.4%
Youngstown 1 1.4%
Your Own Worst Enemy 6 8.1%
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
sweetcharmedlife
()
Date: June 10, 2008 06:55
Quote
superglen
updated stats after the 2 london shows
107 different songs in 74 shows
still about 50 shows to do before the end of the tour (october 2008)
4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy) 6 8.1%
Adam Raised a Cain 11 14.9%
All Just to Get to You [Joe Ely] 1 1.4%
Always A Friend [Alejandro Escovedo] 1 1.4%
American Land 74 100.0%
Atlantic City 6 8.1%
Backstreets 15 20.3%
Badlands 73 98.6%
Be True 3 4.1%
Because the Night 26 35.1%
Blinded By the Light 1 1.4%
Blood Brothers 1 1.4%
Bobby Jean 4 5.4%
Born In The U.S.A. 2 2.7%
Born to Run 74 100.0%
Brilliant Disguise 5 6.8%
Buffalo Gals 1 1.4%
Cadillac Ranch 6 8.1%
Candy's Room 22 29.7%
Code of Silence 1 1.4%
Cynthia 1 1.4%
Dancing in the Dark 52 70.3%
Darkness on the Edge of Town 15 20.3%
Darlington County 16 21.6%
Detroit Medley [Mitch Ryder] 3 4.1%
Devil's Arcade 69 93.2%
Does the Bus Stop at 82nd Street? 1 1.4%
Don't Look Back 1 1.4%
Downbound Train 1 1.4%
E Street Shuffle 4 5.4%
Empty Sky 1 1.4%
Fire 2 2.7%
For You 3 4.1%
Girls in Their Summer Clothes 56 75.7%
Glory Days 6 8.1%
Growing Up 6 8.1%
Gypsy Biker 68 91.9%
I Wanna Be With You 1 1.4%
I'll Fly Away [Albert Brumley] 1 1.4%
I'll Work for Your Love 13 17.6%
I'm On Fire 1 1.4%
Incident on 57th Street 8 10.8%
Independence Day 1 1.4%
It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City 4 5.4%
Jackson Cage 7 9.5%
Janey Don't You Lose Heart 1 1.4%
Jungleland 17 23.0%
Keep the Car Running 1 1.4%
Kitty's Back 15 20.3%
Last to Die 74 100.0%
Light of Day 1 1.4%
Living in the Future 74 100.0%
Lonesome Day 66 89.2%
Long Walk Home 74 100.0%
Loose Ends 4 5.4%
Lost in the Flood 4 5.4%
Magic 65 87.8%
Mary's Place 9 12.2%
Meeting Across The River 5 6.8%
Mr. Tambourine Man [Bob Dylan] 1 1.4%
Murder Inc. 5 6.8%
My Hometown 3 4.1%
Night 29 39.2%
No Surrender 33 44.6%
None But the Brave 1 1.4%
Out in the Street 11 14.9%
Point Blank 3 4.1%
Prove It All Night 20 27.0%
Racing in the Street 5 6.8%
Radio Nowhere 74 100.0%
Ramrod 7 9.5%
Reason to Believe 62 83.8%
Rendezvous 1 1.4%
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) 13 17.6%
Roulette 1 1.4%
Santa Claus is Coming to Town [Ronettes] 9 12.2%
Sherry Darling 2 2.7%
She's the One 72 97.3%
So Young and In Love 1 1.4%
Something in the Night 3 4.1%
Souls of the Departed 1 1.4%
Spirit in the Night 5 6.8%
State Trooper 1 1.4%
Streets of Fire 1 1.4%
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out 18 24.3%
Terry's Song 1 1.4%
The Ghost of Tom Joad 2 2.7%
The Promised Land 73 98.6%
The Rising 71 95.9%
The River 13 17.6%
The Ties That Bind 15 20.3%
This Hard Land 2 2.7%
Thunder Road 17 23.0%
Thundercrack 15 20.3%
Tougher Than the Rest 2 2.7%
Town Called Heartbreak 11 14.9%
Trapped [Jimmy Cliff] 9 12.2%
Tunnel of Love 11 14.9%
Turn Turn Turn [The Byrds] 1 1.4%
Two Hearts 1 1.4%
Waitin' on a Sunny Day 21 28.4%
Wild Billy's Circus Story 1 1.4%
Working On The Highway 19 25.7%
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) 2 2.7%
You'll Be Coming Down 1 1.4%
Youngstown 1 1.4%
Your Own Worst Enemy 6 8.1%
While I applaud your effort Glen. I think their are a few errors. First you don't have Arcade Fire listed. Next,I'm pretty sure Badlands has been done at every show and I don't think Born In The USA has been done at all. I could be wrong. But still a nice list.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Nikolai
()
Date: June 10, 2008 11:04
Quote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
superglen
updated stats after the 2 london shows
107 different songs in 74 shows
still about 50 shows to do before the end of the tour (october 2008)
4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy) 6 8.1%
Adam Raised a Cain 11 14.9%
All Just to Get to You [Joe Ely] 1 1.4%
Always A Friend [Alejandro Escovedo] 1 1.4%
American Land 74 100.0%
Atlantic City 6 8.1%
Backstreets 15 20.3%
Badlands 73 98.6%
Be True 3 4.1%
Because the Night 26 35.1%
Blinded By the Light 1 1.4%
Blood Brothers 1 1.4%
Bobby Jean 4 5.4%
Born In The U.S.A. 2 2.7%
Born to Run 74 100.0%
Brilliant Disguise 5 6.8%
Buffalo Gals 1 1.4%
Cadillac Ranch 6 8.1%
Candy's Room 22 29.7%
Code of Silence 1 1.4%
Cynthia 1 1.4%
Dancing in the Dark 52 70.3%
Darkness on the Edge of Town 15 20.3%
Darlington County 16 21.6%
Detroit Medley [Mitch Ryder] 3 4.1%
Devil's Arcade 69 93.2%
Does the Bus Stop at 82nd Street? 1 1.4%
Don't Look Back 1 1.4%
Downbound Train 1 1.4%
E Street Shuffle 4 5.4%
Empty Sky 1 1.4%
Fire 2 2.7%
For You 3 4.1%
Girls in Their Summer Clothes 56 75.7%
Glory Days 6 8.1%
Growing Up 6 8.1%
Gypsy Biker 68 91.9%
I Wanna Be With You 1 1.4%
I'll Fly Away [Albert Brumley] 1 1.4%
I'll Work for Your Love 13 17.6%
I'm On Fire 1 1.4%
Incident on 57th Street 8 10.8%
Independence Day 1 1.4%
It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City 4 5.4%
Jackson Cage 7 9.5%
Janey Don't You Lose Heart 1 1.4%
Jungleland 17 23.0%
Keep the Car Running 1 1.4%
Kitty's Back 15 20.3%
Last to Die 74 100.0%
Light of Day 1 1.4%
Living in the Future 74 100.0%
Lonesome Day 66 89.2%
Long Walk Home 74 100.0%
Loose Ends 4 5.4%
Lost in the Flood 4 5.4%
Magic 65 87.8%
Mary's Place 9 12.2%
Meeting Across The River 5 6.8%
Mr. Tambourine Man [Bob Dylan] 1 1.4%
Murder Inc. 5 6.8%
My Hometown 3 4.1%
Night 29 39.2%
No Surrender 33 44.6%
None But the Brave 1 1.4%
Out in the Street 11 14.9%
Point Blank 3 4.1%
Prove It All Night 20 27.0%
Racing in the Street 5 6.8%
Radio Nowhere 74 100.0%
Ramrod 7 9.5%
Reason to Believe 62 83.8%
Rendezvous 1 1.4%
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) 13 17.6%
Roulette 1 1.4%
Santa Claus is Coming to Town [Ronettes] 9 12.2%
Sherry Darling 2 2.7%
She's the One 72 97.3%
So Young and In Love 1 1.4%
Something in the Night 3 4.1%
Souls of the Departed 1 1.4%
Spirit in the Night 5 6.8%
State Trooper 1 1.4%
Streets of Fire 1 1.4%
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out 18 24.3%
Terry's Song 1 1.4%
The Ghost of Tom Joad 2 2.7%
The Promised Land 73 98.6%
The Rising 71 95.9%
The River 13 17.6%
The Ties That Bind 15 20.3%
This Hard Land 2 2.7%
Thunder Road 17 23.0%
Thundercrack 15 20.3%
Tougher Than the Rest 2 2.7%
Town Called Heartbreak 11 14.9%
Trapped [Jimmy Cliff] 9 12.2%
Tunnel of Love 11 14.9%
Turn Turn Turn [The Byrds] 1 1.4%
Two Hearts 1 1.4%
Waitin' on a Sunny Day 21 28.4%
Wild Billy's Circus Story 1 1.4%
Working On The Highway 19 25.7%
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) 2 2.7%
You'll Be Coming Down 1 1.4%
Youngstown 1 1.4%
Your Own Worst Enemy 6 8.1%
While I applaud your effort Glen. I think their are a few errors. First you don't have Arcade Fire listed. Next,I'm pretty sure Badlands has been done at every show and I don't think Born In The USA has been done at all. I could be wrong. But still a nice list.
Born in the USA was played in East Rutherford on September 28th last year.
[www.brucebase.org.uk]
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
paulywaul
()
Date: June 10, 2008 11:43
Quote
GazzaQuote
Matti
Of course the artist has the right to play what the hell he wants.
Thats the key, Matti. You cant simply second guess what the audience want and simply become a jukebox. What might be a crowd pleaser for some may be tedium for someone else. What might be your 'favourite song' or mine but might be a turkey for many others.
Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once?
<<< Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once? >>>
Eloquently put, and you are of course 100 percent correct. In my opinion ... NO, the one show in a lifetime person's "needs" (for want of a better expression) should absolutely NOT be prioritised over the "sizeable" section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once.
And so to the Stones. This is perhaps where they err far too much on the side of caution. Although I'm in no way as critical as some about the element of "warhorse repetition" in their setlists, I do feel as if the setlists in general represent far too heavy of a nod to the "once in a lifetime" category of concert attendee, rather than the other. I am given to wonder though whether their perception of the crowd "mix" is actually correct. Perhaps in a stadium setting, yes ... the once in a lifetime brigade do outnumber the diehards, but in an arena setting, I wouldn't be so sure. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this is an area in which I feel (even the man does nothing for me personally) that Mr Springsteen (and his like) do in all fairness serve their faithful followers considerably better and in kinder fashion than the Stones.
You might wish to alert the good Logie to this 'ere post of mine, this is as much in the way of a conciliatory scribble on the subject of setlists/Stones/Springsteen etc as he's ever gonna get outa me, so he'd better read it and enjoy it while he can ... before big bad BV comes along and goes "o no, the tough northern bastard and the soft southern jessie are at it again - better kill this thread too"
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: June 10, 2008 11:44
Quote
sweetcharmedlife
While I applaud your effort Glen. I think their are a few errors. First you don't have Arcade Fire listed. Next,I'm pretty sure Badlands has been done at every show and I don't think Born In The USA has been done at all. I could be wrong. But still a nice list.[/quote
I think glen is right.
Arcade Fire? he did two songs in Montreal with 2 of the band - State Trooper and keep the Car Running, which are listed above.
he also played Factory and Raise Your Hand with the ESB at the Count Basie benefit show last month, but that wasnt a tour show.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: June 10, 2008 11:51
Quote
NikolaiQuote
sweetcharmedlifeQuote
superglen
updated stats after the 2 london shows
107 different songs in 74 shows
still about 50 shows to do before the end of the tour (october 2008)
4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy) 6 8.1%
Adam Raised a Cain 11 14.9%
All Just to Get to You [Joe Ely] 1 1.4%
Always A Friend [Alejandro Escovedo] 1 1.4%
American Land 74 100.0%
Atlantic City 6 8.1%
Backstreets 15 20.3%
Badlands 73 98.6%
Be True 3 4.1%
Because the Night 26 35.1%
Blinded By the Light 1 1.4%
Blood Brothers 1 1.4%
Bobby Jean 4 5.4%
Born In The U.S.A. 2 2.7%
Born to Run 74 100.0%
Brilliant Disguise 5 6.8%
Buffalo Gals 1 1.4%
Cadillac Ranch 6 8.1%
Candy's Room 22 29.7%
Code of Silence 1 1.4%
Cynthia 1 1.4%
Dancing in the Dark 52 70.3%
Darkness on the Edge of Town 15 20.3%
Darlington County 16 21.6%
Detroit Medley [Mitch Ryder] 3 4.1%
Devil's Arcade 69 93.2%
Does the Bus Stop at 82nd Street? 1 1.4%
Don't Look Back 1 1.4%
Downbound Train 1 1.4%
E Street Shuffle 4 5.4%
Empty Sky 1 1.4%
Fire 2 2.7%
For You 3 4.1%
Girls in Their Summer Clothes 56 75.7%
Glory Days 6 8.1%
Growing Up 6 8.1%
Gypsy Biker 68 91.9%
I Wanna Be With You 1 1.4%
I'll Fly Away [Albert Brumley] 1 1.4%
I'll Work for Your Love 13 17.6%
I'm On Fire 1 1.4%
Incident on 57th Street 8 10.8%
Independence Day 1 1.4%
It's Hard to Be a Saint in the City 4 5.4%
Jackson Cage 7 9.5%
Janey Don't You Lose Heart 1 1.4%
Jungleland 17 23.0%
Keep the Car Running 1 1.4%
Kitty's Back 15 20.3%
Last to Die 74 100.0%
Light of Day 1 1.4%
Living in the Future 74 100.0%
Lonesome Day 66 89.2%
Long Walk Home 74 100.0%
Loose Ends 4 5.4%
Lost in the Flood 4 5.4%
Magic 65 87.8%
Mary's Place 9 12.2%
Meeting Across The River 5 6.8%
Mr. Tambourine Man [Bob Dylan] 1 1.4%
Murder Inc. 5 6.8%
My Hometown 3 4.1%
Night 29 39.2%
No Surrender 33 44.6%
None But the Brave 1 1.4%
Out in the Street 11 14.9%
Point Blank 3 4.1%
Prove It All Night 20 27.0%
Racing in the Street 5 6.8%
Radio Nowhere 74 100.0%
Ramrod 7 9.5%
Reason to Believe 62 83.8%
Rendezvous 1 1.4%
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) 13 17.6%
Roulette 1 1.4%
Santa Claus is Coming to Town [Ronettes] 9 12.2%
Sherry Darling 2 2.7%
She's the One 72 97.3%
So Young and In Love 1 1.4%
Something in the Night 3 4.1%
Souls of the Departed 1 1.4%
Spirit in the Night 5 6.8%
State Trooper 1 1.4%
Streets of Fire 1 1.4%
Tenth Avenue Freeze-out 18 24.3%
Terry's Song 1 1.4%
The Ghost of Tom Joad 2 2.7%
The Promised Land 73 98.6%
The Rising 71 95.9%
The River 13 17.6%
The Ties That Bind 15 20.3%
This Hard Land 2 2.7%
Thunder Road 17 23.0%
Thundercrack 15 20.3%
Tougher Than the Rest 2 2.7%
Town Called Heartbreak 11 14.9%
Trapped [Jimmy Cliff] 9 12.2%
Tunnel of Love 11 14.9%
Turn Turn Turn [The Byrds] 1 1.4%
Two Hearts 1 1.4%
Waitin' on a Sunny Day 21 28.4%
Wild Billy's Circus Story 1 1.4%
Working On The Highway 19 25.7%
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) 2 2.7%
You'll Be Coming Down 1 1.4%
Youngstown 1 1.4%
Your Own Worst Enemy 6 8.1%
While I applaud your effort Glen. I think their are a few errors. First you don't have Arcade Fire listed. Next,I'm pretty sure Badlands has been done at every show and I don't think Born In The USA has been done at all. I could be wrong. But still a nice list.
Born in the USA was played in East Rutherford on September 28th last year.
[www.brucebase.org.uk]
i didn't compile the list, i copied it from stoneponylondon.net
the list is correct. it includes the 2 songs bruce did with arcade fire (keep the car running and state trooper).
it includes the 3 "rehearsal" shows in NJ in september 2007 (they were open to the public with tix regurarly on sale) but not the benefit show in NJ in may 2008 (it's not considered part of of the magic tour proper).
badlands wasn't played at one of the september shows.
worthy of note: in may 2008 in manchester, bruce played only 9 songs that he also played in manchester in may 2003....
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
()
Date: June 10, 2008 13:35
Quote
GazzaQuote
CrazyDadda
Are there any Magic Tour soundboards?
which is apparently the 18th different opener in the last 18 shows.
Bloody show off.
I don't get this, Gazza.
why do you think it's a show off? "I do this to show I can do it"
to me, it's more "I do this because I WANT to do it"
it's to keep the band and himself on the edge of their seats, on their toes. and to thrill and entertain his audience in a way that he thinks is best.
the boss's declared philosophy is: "we may be playing 80 shows in 8 months, but a certain kid in the audience will only see us once in his lifetime, we want to give THAT kid the best show of his life: we play every show as if it was the last show of our career"
and maybe the only way the boss knows to force the band to play the best possible show every night, is changing the set every night and changing the opener every night.
I think he knows his stuff: he's been playing with the ESB since 1972...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-10 13:37 by superglen.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Nanker Phlegm
()
Date: June 10, 2008 13:50
One of my fave Bands are doing 3 nights in their hometowm next week
a regular electric set
accoustic set
obscure album tracks/b sides/covers
I spoke to Gerry from the band last week and asked about rehearsals
" you realise why some songs were b-sides and obscure in the first place" he said
still a fun idea and maybe something more bands could do on occasion for the hardcore.
a regular electric set
accoustic set
obscure album tracks/b sides/covers
I spoke to Gerry from the band last week and asked about rehearsals
" you realise why some songs were b-sides and obscure in the first place" he said
still a fun idea and maybe something more bands could do on occasion for the hardcore.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: June 10, 2008 14:09
Quote
superglenQuote
GazzaQuote
CrazyDadda
Are there any Magic Tour soundboards?
which is apparently the 18th different opener in the last 18 shows.
Bloody show off.
I don't get this, Gazza.
why do you think it's a show off? "I do this to show I can do it"
to me, it's more "I do this because I WANT to do it"
it's to keep the band and himself on the edge of their seats, on their toes. and to thrill and entertain his audience in a way that he thinks is best.
the boss's declared philosophy is: "we may be playing 80 shows in 8 months, but a certain kid in the audience will only see us once in his lifetime, we want to give THAT kid the best show of his life: we play every show as if it was the last show of our career"
and maybe the only way the boss knows to force the band to play the best possible show every night, is changing the set every night and changing the opener every night.
I think he knows his stuff: he's been playing with the ESB since 1972...
I'm kidding. It's a form of mock appreciation. I'm the last person in the world who'll ever complain about an artist shaking up setlists.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
LOGIE
()
Date: June 10, 2008 14:22
Quote
paulywaulQuote
GazzaQuote
Matti
Of course the artist has the right to play what the hell he wants.
Thats the key, Matti. You cant simply second guess what the audience want and simply become a jukebox. What might be a crowd pleaser for some may be tedium for someone else. What might be your 'favourite song' or mine but might be a turkey for many others.
Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once?
<<< Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once? >>>
Eloquently put, and you are of course 100 percent correct. In my opinion ... NO, the one show in a lifetime person's "needs" (for want of a better expression) should absolutely NOT be prioritised over the "sizeable" section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once.
And so to the Stones. This is perhaps where they err far too much on the side of caution. Although I'm in no way as critical as some about the element of "warhorse repetition" in their setlists, I do feel as if the setlists in general represent far too heavy of a nod to the "once in a lifetime" category of concert attendee, rather than the other. I am given to wonder though whether their perception of the crowd "mix" is actually correct. Perhaps in a stadium setting, yes ... the once in a lifetime brigade do outnumber the diehards, but in an arena setting, I wouldn't be so sure. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this is an area in which I feel (even the man does nothing for me personally) that Mr Springsteen (and his like) do in all fairness serve their faithful followers considerably better and in kinder fashion than the Stones.
You might wish to alert the good Logie to this 'ere post of mine, this is as much in the way of a conciliatory scribble on the subject of setlists/Stones/Springsteen etc as he's ever gonna get outa me, so he'd better read it and enjoy it while he can ... before big bad BV comes along and goes "o no, the tough northern bastard and the soft southern jessie are at it again - better kill this thread too"
The stonemason is here, while I speak, carving out those words of yours about the Stones and their setlists.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: June 10, 2008 14:33
Quote
paulywaul
Eloquently put, and you are of course 100 percent correct. In my opinion ... NO, the one show in a lifetime person's "needs" (for want of a better expression) should absolutely NOT be prioritised over the "sizeable" section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once.
And so to the Stones. This is perhaps where they err far too much on the side of caution. Although I'm in no way as critical as some about the element of "warhorse repetition" in their setlists, I do feel as if the setlists in general represent far too heavy of a nod to the "once in a lifetime" category of concert attendee, rather than the other. I am given to wonder though whether their perception of the crowd "mix" is actually correct. Perhaps in a stadium setting, yes ... the once in a lifetime brigade do outnumber the diehards, but in an arena setting, I wouldn't be so sure. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this is an area in which I feel (even the man does nothing for me personally) that Mr Springsteen (and his like) do in all fairness serve their faithful followers considerably better and in kinder fashion than the Stones.
You might wish to alert the good Logie to this 'ere post of mine, this is as much in the way of a conciliatory scribble on the subject of setlists/Stones/Springsteen etc as he's ever gonna get outa me, so he'd better read it and enjoy it while he can ... before big bad BV comes along and goes "o no, the tough northern bastard and the soft southern jessie are at it again - better kill this thread too"
Fair enough post.
For what its worth, I think the days of Stones audiences being heavily populated by "once in a lifetime" attendees are LONG gone. Not with the regularity that theyve toured this decade and the age of their audience (the Isle of Wight festival and far flung places like Bucharest and Budva being notable exceptions because those gigs really were 'virgin territory')
No way are a sizeable amount of their audience seeing them for the first and only time. "Once in a tour" maybe but not "once in a lifetime". And if those audiences are seeing them once but never to return, that asks another question altogether.
PS - Have you changed your phone number? I texted you yesterday.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
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sweetcharmedlife
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Date: June 10, 2008 16:18
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While I applaud your effort Glen. I think their are a few errors. First you don't have Arcade Fire listed. Next,I'm pretty sure Badlands has been done at every show and I don't think Born In The USA has been done at all. I could be wrong. But still a nice list.[/quote
I think glen is right.
Arcade Fire? he did two songs in Montreal with 2 of the band - State Trooper and keep the Car Running, which are listed above.
he also played Factory and Raise Your Hand with the ESB at the Count Basie benefit show last month, but that wasnt a tour show.
D'oh...I was thinking of Devil's Arcade. Nevermind.
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
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Date: June 10, 2008 16:24
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Of course the artist has the right to play what the hell he wants.
Thats the key, Matti. You cant simply second guess what the audience want and simply become a jukebox. What might be a crowd pleaser for some may be tedium for someone else. What might be your 'favourite song' or mine but might be a turkey for many others.
Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once?
<<< Most acts try and strike a balance. However, if its someone's one and only show in their lifetime, should their lack of interest in and commitment to the artist's work be prioritised over a sizeable section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once? >>>
Eloquently put, and you are of course 100 percent correct. In my opinion ... NO, the one show in a lifetime person's "needs" (for want of a better expression) should absolutely NOT be prioritised over the "sizeable" section of the audience who see the artist every tour, and maybe more than once.
And so to the Stones. This is perhaps where they err far too much on the side of caution. Although I'm in no way as critical as some about the element of "warhorse repetition" in their setlists, I do feel as if the setlists in general represent far too heavy of a nod to the "once in a lifetime" category of concert attendee, rather than the other. I am given to wonder though whether their perception of the crowd "mix" is actually correct. Perhaps in a stadium setting, yes ... the once in a lifetime brigade do outnumber the diehards, but in an arena setting, I wouldn't be so sure. Anyway, to cut a long story short, this is an area in which I feel (even the man does nothing for me personally) that Mr Springsteen (and his like) do in all fairness serve their faithful followers considerably better and in kinder fashion than the Stones.
You might wish to alert the good Logie to this 'ere post of mine, this is as much in the way of a conciliatory scribble on the subject of setlists/Stones/Springsteen etc as he's ever gonna get outa me, so he'd better read it and enjoy it while he can ... before big bad BV comes along and goes "o no, the tough northern bastard and the soft southern jessie are at it again - better kill this thread too"
The stonemason is here, while I speak, carving out those words of yours about the Stones and their setlists.
Good good ... should hate to find myself being misquoted in later years ...........
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Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
Posted by:
superglen
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Date: June 10, 2008 17:15
can you imagine that, on this tour, he NEVER played his 3 arguably biggest hits (hungry heart, streets of philadelphia, secret garden)?
and that born in the USA was only played in the rehearsal shows?
and that glory days was only done 6 times out of 74 shows?
and that some very well known songs from BITUSA like downbound train, i'm on fire, my hometown were done once or twice?
and that thunder road was only done 17 times?
etc...etc...
bruce is crazy
and that born in the USA was only played in the rehearsal shows?
and that glory days was only done 6 times out of 74 shows?
and that some very well known songs from BITUSA like downbound train, i'm on fire, my hometown were done once or twice?
and that thunder road was only done 17 times?
etc...etc...
bruce is crazy
Re: Ot: Springsteen setlist
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Date: June 10, 2008 18:53
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any iorr'ers going to the show in Dusseldorf ?
Yes, I will be there. Only a few more days to wait now.
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